bripat9643
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Health care can be considered a promotion of the general welfare, not the general warfare.Obama (and Hillary) ran on the promise of delivering heath care. He was elected, and we have the ACA.This is a "running battle" or "skirmish" with some on the left, with most of the right. Some on the left believe there is no justification for any delegation of wartime powers, if our federal Congress cannot prove their allegations that such an exigency exists under our form of Capitalism, without the corresponding market based metric, of wartime tax rates, meet for such an alleged exigency.
danielpalos Impenitent
Hmmmm the issue on the Left of exceeding federal authority on wartime powers
sounds CURIOUSLY like the issue on the Right of exceeding federal authority with health care.
Could it be that both sides need to take the opposition of the other SERIOUSLY
if they want THEIR objections to be heard? Why take turns IGNORING the protests of the other side?
What would HAPPEN if they actually INCLUDED each other's protests and objections
when making policy. Do you think we might make BALANCED decisions instead of lopsided?
Two wrongs don't make a right. They double the problems by excluding both sides, just taking turns doing it.
So we end up with two failed policies by leaving out half the nation every time Congress votes on biased legislation.
I brought this up with Impenitent who didn't see how I could connect these two situations.
But when I look at the EXCLUSION and demonization in the MEDIA,
I see a parallel pattern of bullying -- taking turns pushing one agenda to the point of dismissing any objections as invalid.
So both accuse the other of being a dictatorship, abusing the Presidency to push agenda.
Both making enemies of the other half of the US population. Is this really any way to run a country? If not RUIN it?
Where is the excess of federal authority? It was the will of the people - a mandate in more ways than one.
Bush, on the other hand, ran a campaign of peace, yet entered the White House determined to invade Iraq. (My source is Paul O'neal, if you're gonna make me find it.)
He hoodwinked the people!
I could go on, but I think I killed it right there.
One exceeded his authority - one didn't.
No it can't. Government healthcare is an instance of providing welfare, not promoting it.