The Big Iraq Lie Marches On

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    "'The war in Iraq will soon belong to history,' President Obama told the troops at Fort Bragg last week. 'Your service belongs to the ages. Never forget that you are part of an unbroken line of heroes spanning two centuries — from the colonists who overthrew an empire, to your grandparents and parents who faced down fascism and communism, to you — men and women who fought for the same principles in Fallujah and Kandahar, and delivered justice to those who attacked us on 9/11.'”

    The latest Big Lie delivered by a Latest Liar living in the White House assures the troops that doing what's right is the prime motivator of all US military action.

    Except the prime motivator of all US military action is the profit earned by 1% of the US population from the mass killing of innocent, foreign civilians.

    "If there’s no such thing as a president who can tell the truth about a fraudulently launched, devastatingly counterproductive military adventure, or speak critically about militarism in general — because the truth would, oh, bring down the economy — we have an inadequate system of government, whose fundamental purpose is to resist change and perpetuate itself no matter what...."

    One possible way to force change upon those who profit from mass murder would be to convene of a truth commission charged with an honest accounting of a lie that may have killed a million Iraqis and helped devastate the US economy even as it enriched a few powerful profiteers among the richest 1%.

    "A disastrous war may be over, but there's no cause for cheering until we free our government from the interests that waged it."

    The Big Lie Marches On | Common Dreams
     
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    He has to win re-election. Opportunism is part of a politician's life, according to requirements of today's political climate. What Obama said is certainly not right, but his position on Iraq is documented in history. He stood on right side of history when it mattered.

    Soldiers are also voters. He won't tell them: "You committed war-crimes in Fallujah".
    He'll tell them, that they brought "freedom" to Fallujah.
     
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    Did you notice Obama marked the end of the US occupation by calling on others not to meddle in Iraq's internal affairs?

    In 1955 Albert Einstein and Bertrand Russell wrote an open letter to the world in which they pointed out a choice facing the planet that was "stark and dreadful and inescapable: shall we put an end to the human race; or shall mankind renounce war?"

    Politicians like Obama serve those who profit from war and financial deregulation.
    War will end this specie if we don't stop electing frauds like Obama or Mitt or Newt...
     
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    We could always elect Paul.

    He's all in favor of a nuclear Iran.
    You know who's going to take over Iraq soon, right?
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    and delivered justice to those who attacked us on 9/11.'”

    He wasn't saying Iraq was behind 9/11, which is clearly what you are trying to spin. Obama took out Bin Laden. So he did indeed deliver justice.

    Obama voted against the Iraq war, but he's not going to tell those troops that the Republicans them fucked over, like the Republicans would do to him if given the chance. Oh, wait, they are already trying to do that.
     
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    Iraq is a failed and deeply divided state.
    Iran will enhance cooperation with the regions within Iraq which are supportive of Iran due to religious association. There's hardly convergence between Iran and people living West and North of Baghdad.

    However, Obama isn't to blame. Obama just ended a war which is run on Chinese money, borrowed from tomorrow in the name of US children.
     
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    Another troll/conspiracy nut thread? Just what we needed...
     
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    Sure looks like he claimed the war in Iraq was fighting those that attacked us on 9/11. Or perhaps you can point out for us how including that statement as said in that sentence at a speech praising the END of the Iraq war means either Afghanistan or Pakistan?

    By the way? after the invasion and successful capture of Iraq, the post war was in fact a fight with elements of the Group that attacked us on 9/11.
     
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    And here I thought people were being unfair when they call you a goat-fucker.

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    But those elements didn't exist in Iraq before the invasion.
    They came shortly after the USA.
     

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