Discussion in 'Political Satire' started by Boss, Nov 12, 2015.
Oh, look at that -- you didn't even know who you're talking about.
Few would seem to agree with her on that --
>> "It is disingenuous to imply that my father was a Republican. He never endorsed any presidential candidate, and there is certainly no evidence that he ever even voted for a Republican. It is even more outrageous to suggest he would support the Republican Party of today, which has spent so much time and effort trying to suppress African American votes in Florida and many other states." << --- Martin Luther King III in a 2008 Associated Press story linked here
Apparently a political group had put up billboards claiming MLK Jr. was "a Republican" and refused to take them down even after being asked to by the King Center...
From the AP story:
>> Told about the billboards, the Rev. Joseph Lowery let out a soft chuckle that grew stronger as he began to think more about the idea. "These guys never give up, do they?" said Lowery, who co-founded the Southern Christian Leadership Conference with King. "Lord have mercy."
...Lowery, who knew King well, said there is no reason why anyone would think King was a Republican. He said King most certainly voted for President Kennedy, and the only time he openly talked about politics was when he criticized Republican Barry Goldwater during the 1964 presidential campaign.
"That was not the Martin I know and I don't think they can substantiate that by any shape, form or fashion. It's purely propaganda and poppycock," Lowery said. "Even if he was, he would have nothing to do with what the Republican Party stands for today. Do they think Martin would support George W. Bush and the war in Iraq?"
In "The Autobiography of Martin Luther King, Jr.," which was published after his death from his written material and records, King called the Republican national convention that nominated Goldwater a "frenzied wedding ... of the KKK and the radical right."
"The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism," King said in the book. <<
Apparently this is one more myth generated by the Revisionist History mill. Which goes far to explain why Vegematic is trying to push it. That's what he traffics in.
Ironic, is it not, that this story about Republicans plainly lying about not-Republicans should come up in a thread about Democrats lying about lying about lying...
Well this wasn't a myth, it was a black woman who called herself Alveda King and said she was MLKs niece. She didn't say MLK was a Republican or voted for a Republican and neither did I. She said he would align with conservative republicans today. Now, maybe she is full of shit? Maybe she is on drugs? Maybe she was paid to say it? I can't answer for anything, I just know what I heard her say.
I've heard MLK3 before as well, he is a flaming left wing radical liberal. That doesn't mean much with regard to MLK because Ronnie Reagan Jr. is also a flaming libtard. And if his dad had croaked out back in the 50s when he was still a Democrat, he may be running around today telling people his father was never conservative. One thing we do know about libtards is they can lie like hell.
Yeah, Faun... I make mistakes now and then. When I do, I don't have a problem fessing up.
I've just demonstrated a case of Republicans blatantly lying (with billboards no less) ---- and from that you conclude "libtards lie like hell". I've also supplied you with observations from both MLK's own son and one of his peers, both of whom are in a position to know. And there's plenty more material from Dr King himself, ALL of which contradict Alveda King's initial statement --- which even SHE has retracted.
You got played by the Rs and blamed the Ds. Your head's in the sand, pal.
You're fucking deranged.
Yes, Alveda King said her famous uncle was a Republican.
You never cease to talk about things you know nothing about. You don't know who you're talking about ... you don't know what she said ... but that doesn't slow your rhetoric down a beat.
Yes, she retracted that he was a registered republican. ML King Sr. (her grandfather) was a registered republican and she assumed her uncle was as well, but he was an independent. But we're not talking about republicans or party registration. Someone else may have made that argument but my comment was that Alveda said (never recanted) that her uncle would have aligned with conservative republicans, aka: tea party conservatives. In other words, he held conservative values and not liberal values.
spot the disconnect ...
How did she retract a statement you said she didn't make???
Again, you have no fucking clue what you're talking about. You're making shit up as you go along and then have to alter your position only after researching what you should have known before posting.
Yes. I understand that. And that sentiment --- about aligning with so-called "conservative values" --- was held as ridiculous by the two sources I quoted ..... his son and his colleague.
Moreover, as King was assassinated in 1968, the redefinition of these so-called "conservative values" had not yet taken place, notably with the two elements of the race-baiting "Southern Strategy" by Republicans, and the infusion of religion into politics with the whole "Moral Majority" cancer courtesy of the Jerry Falwells*. So the phrase "conservative values" in King's lifetime didn't mean what they meant after his death anyway. And Alveda King demonstrates a not-very-deep knowledge of such political dynamics as was also demonstrated here, so ..... that's what all that is worth.
* - Even Goldwater, whose candidacy King opposed in 1964, was unsettled by the invasion of the so-called "social conservatives"...
“Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.” -- quoted by John Dean in "Conservatives Without Conscience"
Do you not comprehend time? Some time back, she made the statement he was a republican. She retracted that statement. At a later time, in another interview, she said he would align with conservative republicans on the issues. In that later interview, she did not say he was a Republican.
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