Thank God Obabble approved the keystone pipeline

And drilling on federal lands,,.and t Boone Pickens Nat gas plan. Energy self sufficiency could have been reality.


Commodities: Egyptian bloodbath threatens crucial routes for oil and gas supplies - Telegraph

well, the high price of oil is the exact goal of the libtard crowd and their chief

You forgot that they're trying to nuke D.C. and turn everyone gay. And let Russia and China take us over. And what other crazy shit are republicans spewing these day?

Oh yea... and letting the blacks take over the government!

It's time to take up arms!!!
 
Sen. Manchin imitates Letterman...
:eusa_shifty:
Bipartisan Pitch: Top 10 Reasons to Approve the Keystone XL Pipeline
March 28, 2014 – "“We have everything to gain" by building the Keystone XL pipeline -- and "there is no reason why the United States should pass up this opportunity, " Sen. Joe Manchin, a Democrat, told a press conference on Wednesday.
The West Virginia senator and two Republicans announced a joint effort with other domestic energy advocates to finally get the federal government to approve the Keystone XL pipeline to “secure America’s economic and national security.” Sens. Manchin and John Hoeven (R-N.D.) and Rep. Lee Terry (R-Neb.) -- along with Vets4Energy Adviser Rear Adm. Don Loren, American Petroleum Institute President/CEO Jack Gerard, Canadian Ambassador to the United States Gary Doer and Executive Vice President of TransCanada Alex Pourbaix -- offered their Top-10 reasons the pipeline should be approved.

(10) The American people support the Keystone XL pipeline by a margin of three to one.

(9) The State Department’s final Environmental Impact Study (EIS) released at the end of January showed no significant environmental impact.

(8) The (State Dept.’s Inspector General’s) report cleared and found no conflict of interest by contractor conducting review.

(7) Keystone XL needed infrastructure; we’re seeing more congestion and accidents around the country that have occurred by trying to move crude by rail.

(6) The situation in Europe -- Russia’s influence/strength relative to Ukraine and EU is energy.

MORE
 
How does the Keystone XL pipeline make America energy independent?
 
How does the Keystone XL pipeline make America energy independent?

It doesn't. All it does is bankroll the snot out of the Koch's and other big oil cronies to make a more economical way to get oil to China.
 
Any move by Obama to approve the Keystone Pipeline is a smokescreen. Something to be reversed later, after an election.
 
How does the Keystone XL pipeline make America energy independent?

It doesn’t. It does, however, provide a cheaper, safer and better method of moving Canadian oil to market. A market that is based in part by supply. That oil is GOING to go to market, period. That is a cold hard fact. It can get their dangerously though other nations enriching them OR it can come through here enriching us AND be environmentally safer.

That really is not the point though, is it? Even though it is better for the environment for us to take care of this project Obama and the eco morons continue to block it without reason. Tons of environmental studies have cleared this as the SAFEST manner in which to get this oil to market. It creates jobs and productivity. And where is the pipeline now? Sitting in limbo for asinine political reasons that have nothing to do with safety or productivity.

Fucking sick.

I notice that you have to bring in your favorite boogeyman though – the Koch brothers – even though they have absolutely nothing to do with this asinine situation.
 
How do windmills, batteries and solar panels get us to energy independence? Truth be told we need it all...in a coordinated plan...with a leader. Anybody know one?
 
Sen. Manchin imitates Letterman...
:eusa_shifty:
Bipartisan Pitch: Top 10 Reasons to Approve the Keystone XL Pipeline
March 28, 2014 – "“We have everything to gain" by building the Keystone XL pipeline -- and "there is no reason why the United States should pass up this opportunity, " Sen. Joe Manchin, a Democrat, told a press conference on Wednesday.
The West Virginia senator and two Republicans announced a joint effort with other domestic energy advocates to finally get the federal government to approve the Keystone XL pipeline to “secure America’s economic and national security.” Sens. Manchin and John Hoeven (R-N.D.) and Rep. Lee Terry (R-Neb.) -- along with Vets4Energy Adviser Rear Adm. Don Loren, American Petroleum Institute President/CEO Jack Gerard, Canadian Ambassador to the United States Gary Doer and Executive Vice President of TransCanada Alex Pourbaix -- offered their Top-10 reasons the pipeline should be approved.

(10) The American people support the Keystone XL pipeline by a margin of three to one.

(9) The State Department’s final Environmental Impact Study (EIS) released at the end of January showed no significant environmental impact.

(8) The (State Dept.’s Inspector General’s) report cleared and found no conflict of interest by contractor conducting review.

(7) Keystone XL needed infrastructure; we’re seeing more congestion and accidents around the country that have occurred by trying to move crude by rail.

(6) The situation in Europe -- Russia’s influence/strength relative to Ukraine and EU is energy.

MORE

PLUS...
Which should MOST people be in favor of:
A) 700 barrels of oil in one mile of pipe on dry land with 16 monitors per mile of the 1,179 mile route.. OR one monitor every 100 yards and
Keystone XL will use satellite technology to monitor 20,000 data points on the pipeline’s operating conditions. -
Myths & Facts | Keystone XL Pipeline

OR
B) transporting 1 million barrels PER MILE in a Tanker on the open ocean and in doing so exposing 11,000 square miles of ocean to pollution (Exxon Valdez anyone?).
 
And drilling on federal lands,,.and t Boone Pickens Nat gas plan. Energy self sufficiency could have been reality.


Commodities: Egyptian bloodbath threatens crucial routes for oil and gas supplies - Telegraph

well, the high price of oil is the exact goal of the libtard crowd and their chief

You forgot that they're trying to nuke D.C. and turn everyone gay. And let Russia and China take us over. And what other crazy shit are republicans spewing these day?

Oh yea... and letting the blacks take over the government!

It's time to take up arms!!!


yes ! take up arms as required by the Constitution

The Government Exists for the Sole Purpose of Serving the People, not Ruling the People


When the Government violates the Constitution, it is the duty of the People to rise up against the Government to bring the Government into compliance with the Constitution.

what a fucktard liarberal you are.., why don't you adhere to your tag line ??


"If you would not be forgotten
as soon as you are dead and rotten
either write things worth reading
or do things worth the writing"
- Ben Franklin


you idiot !! :up: ....... :lmao:
 
Conservatives in this thread have said that the Keystone XL pipeline doesn't create jobs, it just moves Canadian oil through America to be sold on the open market to China.

So who benefits from the Keystone XL pipeline if it won't create jobs or lower the price of energy for struggling American families?
 
Conservatives in this thread have said that the Keystone XL pipeline doesn't create jobs, it just moves Canadian oil through America to be sold on the open market to China.

So who benefits from the Keystone XL pipeline if it won't create jobs or lower the price of energy for struggling American families?

So I take it you would prefer 1 million barrels of oil on the open ocean like Exxon Valdez??

What is the problem with math deficient people.
Which is a bigger number exposed to potential spill??
1 million barrels traveling one mile in a oil tanker on the open ocean OR
700 barrels traveling one mile in a pipeline on dry land with spill monitors every 100 yards?

OH yea that's right you've probably also feel CORE math is valid also!
 
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Conservatives in this thread have said that the Keystone XL pipeline doesn't create jobs, it just moves Canadian oil through America to be sold on the open market to China.

So who benefits from the Keystone XL pipeline if it won't create jobs or lower the price of energy for struggling American families?

So I take it you would prefer 1 million barrels of oil on the open ocean like Exxon Valdez??

What is the problem with math deficient people.
Which is a bigger number exposed to potential spill??
1 million barrels traveling one mile in a oil tanker on the open ocean OR
700 barrels traveling one mile in a pipeline on dry land with spill monitors every 100 yards?

OH yea that's right you've probably also feel CORE math is valid also!
No, I would prefer that oil stays deep underground where God put it because it is toxic poison that kills everything that it touches.

I know that right-wingers can't imagine a better world. You think that you know that oil is the greatest fucking thing ever and it runs our world economy and industries. That's a lie. Transportation fuel can be made cheaply, safely and abundantly from Cannabis plants and seeds. There is a wealth of information on this subject, even from the US Federal government and major universities. I can post a wall of links to international government and university studies which all say that removing global impediments to Cannabis production will drastically alter the energy policies of the entire planet.

Domestic production of transportation fuel is possible in every country, in every state, in every county and township through mass production of industrial hemp.

Vote Hemp: Why Hemp?: New Billion-Dollar Crop
The feasibility of converting Cannabis sat... [Bioresour Technol. 2010] - PubMed - NCBI
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL32725.pdf
http://evanmills.lbl.gov/pubs/pdf/cannabis-carbon-footprint.pdf
http://www.liq.wa.gov/publications/Marijuana/SEPA/5d_Environmental_Risks_and_Opportunities_in_Cannabis_Cultivation.pdf
http://pub.epsilon.slu.se/8415/1/prade_t_111102.pdf
UConn Biofuel Consortium
http://dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/handle/1721.1/59909/676695681.pdf?...1
https://lup.lub.lu.se/search/publication/1868648
http://lup.lub.lu.se/luur/download?func=downloadFile&recordOId=2856430&fileOId=2857088
Effect of harvest date on combustion related fuel properties of industrial hemp (Cannabis sativa L.) - Fuel - Tom 102, Numer Complete (2012) - Biblioteka Nauki - Yadda
https://www.uky.edu/Ag/AgEcon/pubs/res_other/hemp98.pdf
Hemp: A New Crop with New Uses for North America
http://www.nyu.edu/classes/keefer/EvergreenEnergy/kforbin.pdf
Industrial Hemp - Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada (AAFC)
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=93&ved=0CC0QFjACOFo&url=http%3A%2F%2Fhumboldt-dspace.calstate.edu%2Fbitstream%2Fhandle%2F2148%2F1461%2FArnold_Jessica_M_Sp2013-r.pdf%3Fsequence%3D4&ei=UfTnUqLJNI-FogSHuIKoAg&usg=AFQjCNGePT2nLRH82rx6h817DYxZ6v-J3A&cad=rja
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=91&cad=rja&ved=0CCMQFjAAOFo&url=http%3A%2F%2Fcore.kmi.open.ac.uk%2Fdownload%2Fpdf%2F2778292.pdf&ei=UfTnUqLJNI-FogSHuIKoAg&usg=AFQjCNFqhjiy8F4VRqHnZ08t7CZFDqLgXQ
 
How does the Keystone XL pipeline make America energy independent?

It doesn't. All it does is bankroll the snot out of the Koch's and other big oil cronies to make a more economical way to get oil to China.


The criminally stupid leading the clinically brain dead ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
Well, please explain the facts to us, professor. How does the Keystone XL pipeline make America energy independent if it ships Canadian oil to the Mexican Gulf for export to China?
 
Conservatives in this thread have said that the Keystone XL pipeline doesn't create jobs, it just moves Canadian oil through America to be sold on the open market to China.

So who benefits from the Keystone XL pipeline if it won't create jobs or lower the price of energy for struggling American families?

So I take it you would prefer 1 million barrels of oil on the open ocean like Exxon Valdez??

What is the problem with math deficient people.
Which is a bigger number exposed to potential spill??
1 million barrels traveling one mile in a oil tanker on the open ocean OR
700 barrels traveling one mile in a pipeline on dry land with spill monitors every 100 yards?

OH yea that's right you've probably also feel CORE math is valid also!
No, I would prefer that oil stays deep underground where God put it because it is toxic poison that kills everything that it touches.

I know that right-wingers can't imagine a better world. You think that you know that oil is the greatest fucking thing ever and it runs our world economy and industries. That's a lie. Transportation fuel can be made cheaply, safely and abundantly from Cannabis plants and seeds. There is a wealth of information on this subject, even from the US Federal government and major universities. I can post a wall of links to international government and university studies which all say that removing global impediments to Cannabis production will drastically alter the energy policies of the entire planet.

Domestic production of transportation fuel is possible in every country, in every state, in every county and township through mass production of industrial hemp.

Vote Hemp: Why Hemp?: New Billion-Dollar Crop
The feasibility of converting Cannabis sat... [Bioresour Technol. 2010] - PubMed - NCBI
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL32725.pdf
http://evanmills.lbl.gov/pubs/pdf/cannabis-carbon-footprint.pdf
http://www.liq.wa.gov/publications/Marijuana/SEPA/5d_Environmental_Risks_and_Opportunities_in_Cannabis_Cultivation.pdf
http://pub.epsilon.slu.se/8415/1/prade_t_111102.pdf
UConn Biofuel Consortium
http://dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/handle/1721.1/59909/676695681.pdf?...1
https://lup.lub.lu.se/search/publication/1868648
http://lup.lub.lu.se/luur/download?func=downloadFile&recordOId=2856430&fileOId=2857088
Effect of harvest date on combustion related fuel properties of industrial hemp (Cannabis sativa L.) - Fuel - Tom 102, Numer Complete (2012) - Biblioteka Nauki - Yadda
https://www.uky.edu/Ag/AgEcon/pubs/res_other/hemp98.pdf
Hemp: A New Crop with New Uses for North America
http://www.nyu.edu/classes/keefer/EvergreenEnergy/kforbin.pdf
Industrial Hemp - Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada (AAFC)
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=93&ved=0CC0QFjACOFo&url=http%3A%2F%2Fhumboldt-dspace.calstate.edu%2Fbitstream%2Fhandle%2F2148%2F1461%2FArnold_Jessica_M_Sp2013-r.pdf%3Fsequence%3D4&ei=UfTnUqLJNI-FogSHuIKoAg&usg=AFQjCNGePT2nLRH82rx6h817DYxZ6v-J3A&cad=rja
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=91&cad=rja&ved=0CCMQFjAAOFo&url=http%3A%2F%2Fcore.kmi.open.ac.uk%2Fdownload%2Fpdf%2F2778292.pdf&ei=UfTnUqLJNI-FogSHuIKoAg&usg=AFQjCNFqhjiy8F4VRqHnZ08t7CZFDqLgXQ

And YOU live in a fantasy virtual reality world!
The oil will be transported! So which way is the least environmentally DANGEROUS?
YOU can't stop the oil being transported BUT at least have some concern that if the pipeline doesn't join the other 20,000 miles of pipeline going through
the Ogallala Aquifer and the total 50,000 miles of pipeline across the USA...
A) You idiots would rather have 1 million barrels floating in a tanker traveling thousands of miles then 700 barrels traveling 1,739 miles over dry secured land!

B) You idiots get all excited and sky is falling about leaks in the Ogallala Aquifer but you don't ask the common sense question of the people who ARE experts like Mr. Goeke above!

C) I've showed you a map where 20,000 miles of pipeline cross the Ogallala Aquifer today! Where was your excitement about those 20,000 miles???

What does it take to get some simple common sense into your pea brains or is that the problem... you have pea brains???

I've pointed out the simple math there NEVER were 46 million uninsured.. YET idiots that can't subtract still argue... NO common sense!

And now Mr. Goeke who lives there and has been their for 30 years... HE understands common sense !
AN EXPERT not you cockeyed ignorant people.. AN Hydrologist!

This was 1970 and James Goeke had just joined the team at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln’s Conservation and Survey Division where he still works as a hydrologist.
He never would have guessed it, but someday he would own a chunk of western Nebraska and cherish it as much as any person could.

Scattered around the state are close to 6,000 holes each about 5 inches in diameter drilled to the base of the Ogallala Aquifer. During the 1970s, Goeke drilled about 1,000 of those holes in the deepest part of the aquifer.

He said TransCanada could answer every question and was honest and forthcoming. That didn’t immediately quiet all his reluctance, so he continued his research until he came to a conclusion: The Keystone XL pipeline is not a serious threat to the Ogallala Aquifer.

“A lot of people in the debate about the pipeline talk about how leakage would foul the water and ruin the entire water supply in the state of Nebraska and that’s just a false,” he said.

His explanation is simple.

Seventy-five to 80 percent of the aquifer lies west of the proposed pipeline route.

Finally many times do I have to totally discount your "Hemp" argument!!
HEMP HOAXES....
In fact, if we apply a realistic estimate of average yield—3.5 tons of usable biomass per acre—
and suppose that hemp were to be grown on every single acre of arable cropland in the U. S. (421 million acres),
we would only produce about 1.5 billion tons of hemp biomass per year.
This probably sounds like a lot. However, according to the U.S. government (DOE, 2011) we used 6.8 billion barrels of petroleum
and almost exactly 1 billion tons of coal in 2009; this amounts to 66 billion gigajoules of energy.
If we burned all of that hemp biomass, it would optimistically yield 23 billion gigajoules (ORNL, 2011).
In other words, even if we grew hemp on all the farmland in the country, it would only replace 35% of our combined coal and oil use—and this doesn’t even take natural gas into account. Obviously, hemp couldn’t even come close to replacing our fossil fuels.
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PLEASE PLEASE answer me retorting the ABOVE realities!
1 million barrels will be transported..
which is safer transporting 700 barrels in one mile of a 1,179 pipeline which is part of 50,000 miles of pipeline of which less the 20% going over Ogallala or
1 million barrels on the open ocean in one ship?
 
Preventing Americans from getting jobs in the fossil fuel business, Americans paying more for energy, Europeans being blackmailed by Russia for their energy, the middle east still affecting the US energy sector prices, etc......all ok for Obama and his goons.
 

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