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That was ONE instance. There is far more being enacted. You are on the right track though. That combined with the immigration situation of muslims brings an entirely new situation to their government.
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Originally posted by preemptingyou03
NewGuy, you've failed to address the topic. I'm done.
Originally posted by NewGuy
Ok....wake up and read the Koran. The people you are talking about have a faith they proclaim. It is Islam. It MIGHT be helpful to know what that is since they die for it.
They didn't do it from a religious base which conquered the world by sword in the past already, now did they?
Since your assumptions appear to result from ignorance,I will let you have your tirade. When you understand logic, have a grasp of politics, religion, and MAYBE how to PROVE your point, I will discuss it further.
Originally posted by gaffer
Have you read the koran? All of it? In arabic? I don't have time to learn arabic so I won't read it. I've only had a chance to read bits and pieces. And numerous articles and had discussions with people familiar with it.
As for the Japanese. The Bushito Code was the code of the warrior. The whole nation of Japan worshiped the emporer as a god. Thats called religion. Bushito was about honor. Dying for the emporer was both honorable and got you straight into heaven.
Again, if you do not believe in a God and know anything about religous faith, then you obviously disqualify yourself from understanding the enemy.That is the mentality of the radicals we are dealing with today.
Originally posted by Scourge
If someone invaded my town and killed my family I would drive a truck loaded with explosives into their midst in a heartbeat. Even if I hated my former dictator, it's about defending your country. Wouldn't you do the same? I mean if the whle world hated Bush and tried to remove him and they invaded you'd still fight, right? Know matter what your politics are.
Originally posted by preemptingyou03
NewGuy,
You have a very poor way of not only replying to any points I make, but to fully explain your points.
I never said that, nor did I imply it. When you quit spouting garbage and ask a real question, you will get an answer.You say they hate us for our support of dictators.
Well then, if we don't support their dictators, we're favoring Israel, something they hate us for. And if we oppose their dictators, we come across as opposing Islam to all the radicals out there.
No, it is a bird's nest. Remember the previous example 3 paragraphs up. Imagine we supported Islamic nations. We would then be opposed to Israel, Jews, and Christianity. Newsflash: This is the official stance in documentation of the European Union as a whole. That makes it quite interesting, doesn't it? Now you pit the US against the EU by FAITH. Considering the EU backs Islam and Canada is being sucked into Islamic favoritism, what does that mean for the US?Your fix on the EU and Canadian law is diverting from the topic.
Originally posted by preemptingyou03
You are trying to explain the politics of this, yet you fail to address your point and stance every single time. I don't know where you are going. You're saying Canada is favoring Islam, and the socialist EU is doing the same, then you say it may be the beginning of a World War... with who? This war is for the Islam religion. Not against it. This war is for freedom in the Middle East, not the death of all Muslims.
Originally posted by preemptingyou03
I asked you several times why you think terrorists hate us. Rather than give me a real answer, you mocked mine, and called it bullshit.
Trust me, the reasons I gave, are the reasons Osama bin Laden gives in every audio tape: support for Israel, troops in Saudi Arabia, and non-Islamic law in our country.
The difference between you and I, is I want to understand the enemy, to change the enemy... to defeat it. It seems as if you want to understand the enemy, so we may reform, conforming for the enemy.
Originally posted by preemptingyou03
So under your logic, the terrorists kill believe they want to. They are Muslims. We are not. Therefore, they want us dead. That is your stance?
You are honestly saying that our support of Israel doesn't create any anti-Americanism with Arabs?
You are honestly saying that our bases in Saudi Arabia didn't get OBL pissed off at all?