Ten signs of a dying culture.

[IsaacNewton]

It also comes as no surprise that most on the fearful, wrongheaded, reactionary right perceive culture as 'dying' only when their political opposition is in power; when fellow wrongheaded reactionaries are in power culture has made some sort of 'miraculous recovery' and isn't 'dying' anymore.

Put in today's terms this is seen by the phrase "let's take our country back". Back from what? Take America back from Americans? LOL

 

[NightFox]

It also comes as no surprise that most on the fearful, wrongheaded, reactionary right perceive culture as 'dying' only when their political opposition is in power; when fellow wrongheaded reactionaries are in power culture has made some sort of 'miraculous recovery' and isn't 'dying' anymore.

Put in today's terms this is seen by the phrase "let's take our country back". Back from what? Take America back from Americans? LOL

I believe the idea is to "take it back" from the gigantic, immoral, self serving organism that lives in Washington D.C. which is no longer nearly as interested in serving the needs of the citizenry as it is in serving its own needs .

 

[frigidweirdo]

Porn, what's wrong with the naked body. We were born naked. Some cultures fear nudity, others don't. Go to Germany, Austria, Scandinavian countries etc, and people go in the sauna naked and stuff. Nothing wrong with it, not my thing, but nothing wrong with it.
Past cultures used to embrace this sort of thing. Christianity took the God of Fertility and made him into the devil, that's why "horny" means sexually excited and the devil has horns. Same person, different era.
.

I'm not sure that it has as much do with nudity anymore as it has to do with the pornography industry's reputation for seedy management and exploitation of young people.

When has society not exploited people and had a seedy reputation? It's existed for thousands of years.

Are you attempting to justify the seediness and exploitation that goes on in the modern pornography industry?

Not at all. What I'm saying is that seediness and exploitation go hand in hand with humanity. Like it or not, it's there. Why single out the porn industry when it's all over the place?

My guess would be that it has something to do with the pornography industry's brand of seediness and exploitation, specifically its reputation for the sexual exploitation of children, apparently most Americans aren't too forgiving when it comes to that sort of thing.

I'm not sure how this is taking the US down. The porn industry isn't exactly the most moral, however sexual exploitation of children, come on, 2000 years ago children were sexually exploited in all corners of the world.

 

[NightFox]

I'm not sure how this is taking the US down.

I never said anything about pornography "taking the US down", I was simply giving you my opinion as to why the pornography industry has such a singularly bad reputation since your original question had to do with "what's wrong with porn".

The porn industry isn't exactly the most moral, however sexual exploitation of children, come on, 2000 years ago children were sexually exploited in all corners of the world.

Again you *appear* to be attempting to justify it either that or you're not acknowledging that todays society does not subscribe to all the same values that society did 2000 years ago.

 

[frigidweirdo]

I'm not sure how this is taking the US down.

I never said anything about pornography "taking the US down", I was simply giving you my opinion as to why the pornography industry has such a singularly bad reputation since your original question had to do with "what's wrong with porn".

The porn industry isn't exactly the most moral, however sexual exploitation of children, come on, 2000 years ago children were sexually exploited in all corners of the world.

Again you *appear* to be attempting to justify it either that or you're not acknowledging that todays society does not subscribe to all the same values that society did 2000 years ago.

See, I'm getting confused. I thought the whole point was that the US was being destroyed and one of the big reasons was sexual immorality, proven by the porn industry. That's what the argument was in the first place, right?

As to why it has a bad reputation is neither here nor there for this argument.

Again, I'm not justifying the porn industry. Again, I'm arguing against the point that was being made. If the porn industry is proof that sexual immorality takes down powerful nations, I call bullshit, seeing as sexual immorality has existed at all times in all societies, so I don't see how it could be taking down the US now, it existed at all times and in all places during the history of the US.

 

[NightFox]

I'm not sure how this is taking the US down.

I never said anything about pornography "taking the US down", I was simply giving you my opinion as to why the pornography industry has such a singularly bad reputation since your original question had to do with "what's wrong with porn".

The porn industry isn't exactly the most moral, however sexual exploitation of children, come on, 2000 years ago children were sexually exploited in all corners of the world.

Again you *appear* to be attempting to justify it either that or you're not acknowledging that todays society does not subscribe to all the same values that society did 2000 years ago.

See, I'm getting confused. I thought the whole point was that the US was being destroyed and one of the big reasons was sexual immorality, proven by the porn industry. That's what the argument was in the first place, right?

I apologize for your confusion but that's not my argument, I never said I thought that the US was being destroyed or made any comments regarding "sexual immorality", my response was aimed squarely at your inquiry to the effect "what's wrong with porn", in which you pointed out the nudity aspect of it.

 

[frigidweirdo]

I'm not sure how this is taking the US down.

I never said anything about pornography "taking the US down", I was simply giving you my opinion as to why the pornography industry has such a singularly bad reputation since your original question had to do with "what's wrong with porn".

The porn industry isn't exactly the most moral, however sexual exploitation of children, come on, 2000 years ago children were sexually exploited in all corners of the world.

Again you *appear* to be attempting to justify it either that or you're not acknowledging that todays society does not subscribe to all the same values that society did 2000 years ago.

See, I'm getting confused. I thought the whole point was that the US was being destroyed and one of the big reasons was sexual immorality, proven by the porn industry. That's what the argument was in the first place, right?

I apologize for your confusion but that's not my argument, I never said I thought that the US was being destroyed or made any comments regarding "sexual immorality", my response was aimed squarely at your inquiry to the effect "what's wrong with porn", in which you pointed out the nudity aspect of it.

Well, it might not be your argument, but everything I have said has been in the context of what I have told you. So.... stick to the point.

 

[NightFox]

I'm not sure how this is taking the US down.

I never said anything about pornography "taking the US down", I was simply giving you my opinion as to why the pornography industry has such a singularly bad reputation since your original question had to do with "what's wrong with porn".

The porn industry isn't exactly the most moral, however sexual exploitation of children, come on, 2000 years ago children were sexually exploited in all corners of the world.

Again you *appear* to be attempting to justify it either that or you're not acknowledging that todays society does not subscribe to all the same values that society did 2000 years ago.

See, I'm getting confused. I thought the whole point was that the US was being destroyed and one of the big reasons was sexual immorality, proven by the porn industry. That's what the argument was in the first place, right?

I apologize for your confusion but that's not my argument, I never said I thought that the US was being destroyed or made any comments regarding "sexual immorality", my response was aimed squarely at your inquiry to the effect "what's wrong with porn", in which you pointed out the nudity aspect of it.

Well, it might not be your argument, but everything I have said has been in the context of what I have told you. So.... stick to the point.

Again.. I was attempting to answer your question since in my opinion you were off on the wrong track with respect to "what's wrong with porn", if you disagree with my opinion on that question, that's fine.

 

[longknife]

The true sign of any "decline in a culture" is when individuals no longer care about their community.

We've reached a point where ours is a "me too" and
"selfishness" society in which people ignore their neighbors, walk by those in need of help, and cannot keep family units together.

 

[Skylar]

clueless liberals......like you also think that a country can survive with unlimited welfare and open borders....

Perhaps you have an Infowars article on the topic. By all means give us the batshit conspiracy theorist perspective.

It amazes me that there are so many that cannot see the cultural and moral decay taking place around them. I mean, just listen to some rap music, or turn on the TV. It's all around us. Porn is the most Googled topic by far on the INTERNET. Like the article said. Past cultures saw the signs but did nothing. We are doing the same thing. And the results will be the same.

Got to love people stuck in some kind of cultural bubble, scared that it will break.

Porn, what's wrong with the naked body. We were born naked. Some cultures fear nudity, others don't. Go to Germany, Austria, Scandinavian countries etc, and people go in the sauna naked and stuff. Nothing wrong with it, not my thing, but nothing wrong with it.
Past cultures used to embrace this sort of thing. Christianity took the God of Fertility and made him into the devil, that's why "horny" means sexually excited and the devil has horns. Same person, different era.

Culture always changes. US culture is changing in a manner that's not so good because the politicians and the people can't be bothered to make their country great, in the sense of a great place to live. Everyone's so concerned with themselves that they ignore society.

You are completely ignoring the part that sexual immorality plays in the decline of cultures. If you look at countries like ancient Greece and Rome before they disintegrated, the similarities between them, us and every other culture that brought about it's own demise are striking. I don't know why I'm explaining this to you. The article laid it out clear as crystal, yet you refuse to see the moral and cultural decline of this country.

I'm ignoring what exactly? Prove to me that "sexual immorality" played a part in the downfall of ancient Greece and Rome.

This is the part of the entire OP that is so laughably. The article doesn't actually prove anything it claims: it merely states it.

There's nothing to 'disprove' as there's been nothing proven. There's a 15 year old opinion from a some dude. And? What possible relevance or objective value does some guys baseless opinion have?

 

[Skylar]

The true sign of any "decline in a culture" is when individuals no longer care about their community.

Who says that people no longer care about their community?

Again, this entire thread is like a monument to the Begging the Question fallacy. Where your baseless assumptions are your evidence that your baseless assumptions must be right.

 

[Skylar]

Crime is dropping . Not sure what the article is talking about .

Ohhhh drama , it's end of days!

clueless liberals......like you also think that a country can survive with unlimited welfare and open borders....

Perhaps you have an Infowars article on the topic. By all means give us the batshit conspiracy theorist perspective.

It amazes me that there are so many that cannot see the cultural and moral decay taking place around them. I mean, just listen to some rap music, or turn on the TV. It's all around us. Porn is the most Googled topic by far on the INTERNET. Like the article said. Past cultures saw the signs but did nothing. We are doing the same thing. And the results will be the same.

Got to love people stuck in some kind of cultural bubble, scared that it will break.

Porn, what's wrong with the naked body. We were born naked. Some cultures fear nudity, others don't. Go to Germany, Austria, Scandinavian countries etc, and people go in the sauna naked and stuff. Nothing wrong with it, not my thing, but nothing wrong with it.
Past cultures used to embrace this sort of thing. Christianity took the God of Fertility and made him into the devil, that's why "horny" means sexually excited and the devil has horns. Same person, different era.

Culture always changes. US culture is changing in a manner that's not so good because the politicians and the people can't be bothered to make their country great, in the sense of a great place to live. Everyone's so concerned with themselves that they ignore society.

You are completely ignoring the part that sexual immorality plays in the decline of cultures.

Show us, don't tell us. And remember, you have to establish a causative relationship. With sexual immorality causing a society's collapse.

 

[Rustic]

A group of people willing to follow a loopy kunt, end times??

 

[RWNJ]

clueless liberals......like you also think that a country can survive with unlimited welfare and open borders....

Perhaps you have an Infowars article on the topic. By all means give us the batshit conspiracy theorist perspective.

It amazes me that there are so many that cannot see the cultural and moral decay taking place around them. I mean, just listen to some rap music, or turn on the TV. It's all around us. Porn is the most Googled topic by far on the INTERNET. Like the article said. Past cultures saw the signs but did nothing. We are doing the same thing. And the results will be the same.

Got to love people stuck in some kind of cultural bubble, scared that it will break.

Porn, what's wrong with the naked body. We were born naked. Some cultures fear nudity, others don't. Go to Germany, Austria, Scandinavian countries etc, and people go in the sauna naked and stuff. Nothing wrong with it, not my thing, but nothing wrong with it.
Past cultures used to embrace this sort of thing. Christianity took the God of Fertility and made him into the devil, that's why "horny" means sexually excited and the devil has horns. Same person, different era.

Culture always changes. US culture is changing in a manner that's not so good because the politicians and the people can't be bothered to make their country great, in the sense of a great place to live. Everyone's so concerned with themselves that they ignore society.

You are completely ignoring the part that sexual immorality plays in the decline of cultures. If you look at countries like ancient Greece and Rome before they disintegrated, the similarities between them, us and every other culture that brought about it's own demise are striking. I don't know why I'm explaining this to you. The article laid it out clear as crystal, yet you refuse to see the moral and cultural decline of this country.

I'm ignoring what exactly? Prove to me that "sexual immorality" played a part in the downfall of ancient Greece and Rome.

I refuse to see something that, quite frankly, I don't agree with.

Just because you think that sex is bad, doesn't mean I do. Just because you're repressed, doesn't mean I am.

You

clueless liberals......like you also think that a country can survive with unlimited welfare and open borders....

Perhaps you have an Infowars article on the topic. By all means give us the batshit conspiracy theorist perspective.

It amazes me that there are so many that cannot see the cultural and moral decay taking place around them. I mean, just listen to some rap music, or turn on the TV. It's all around us. Porn is the most Googled topic by far on the INTERNET. Like the article said. Past cultures saw the signs but did nothing. We are doing the same thing. And the results will be the same.

Got to love people stuck in some kind of cultural bubble, scared that it will break.

Porn, what's wrong with the naked body. We were born naked. Some cultures fear nudity, others don't. Go to Germany, Austria, Scandinavian countries etc, and people go in the sauna naked and stuff. Nothing wrong with it, not my thing, but nothing wrong with it.
Past cultures used to embrace this sort of thing. Christianity took the God of Fertility and made him into the devil, that's why "horny" means sexually excited and the devil has horns. Same person, different era.

Culture always changes. US culture is changing in a manner that's not so good because the politicians and the people can't be bothered to make their country great, in the sense of a great place to live. Everyone's so concerned with themselves that they ignore society.

You are completely ignoring the part that sexual immorality plays in the decline of cultures. If you look at countries like ancient Greece and Rome before they disintegrated, the similarities between them, us and every other culture that brought about it's own demise are striking. I don't know why I'm explaining this to you. The article laid it out clear as crystal, yet you refuse to see the moral and cultural decline of this country.

I'm ignoring what exactly? Prove to me that "sexual immorality" played a part in the downfall of ancient Greece and Rome.

I refuse to see something that, quite frankly, I don't agree with.

Just because you think that sex is bad, doesn't mean I do. Just because you're repressed, doesn't mean I am.

I don't believe that anyone has ever said that sex is bad. Like everything else, there is a proper time and place for it. I'm guessing that you don't believe in moral absolutes. Sex is something that should be reserved for two consenting adults, that have made a lifetime commitment to each other. You might believe that this is old fashioned, but there is sound reasoning for it. Look at the problems caused by teen pregnancies. Look at the spread of sexually transmitted disease. These are the result of sexual promiscuity. If everyone would simply wait until they were married, then stayed faithful to their spouse, these problems would all but disappear. Tell me I'm wrong.

 

[Thunderbird]

Is history repeating itself?

The Role of Infanticide and Abortion in Pagan Rome’s Decline

 

[frigidweirdo]

Perhaps you have an Infowars article on the topic. By all means give us the batshit conspiracy theorist perspective.

It amazes me that there are so many that cannot see the cultural and moral decay taking place around them. I mean, just listen to some rap music, or turn on the TV. It's all around us. Porn is the most Googled topic by far on the INTERNET. Like the article said. Past cultures saw the signs but did nothing. We are doing the same thing. And the results will be the same.

Got to love people stuck in some kind of cultural bubble, scared that it will break.

Porn, what's wrong with the naked body. We were born naked. Some cultures fear nudity, others don't. Go to Germany, Austria, Scandinavian countries etc, and people go in the sauna naked and stuff. Nothing wrong with it, not my thing, but nothing wrong with it.
Past cultures used to embrace this sort of thing. Christianity took the God of Fertility and made him into the devil, that's why "horny" means sexually excited and the devil has horns. Same person, different era.

Culture always changes. US culture is changing in a manner that's not so good because the politicians and the people can't be bothered to make their country great, in the sense of a great place to live. Everyone's so concerned with themselves that they ignore society.

You are completely ignoring the part that sexual immorality plays in the decline of cultures. If you look at countries like ancient Greece and Rome before they disintegrated, the similarities between them, us and every other culture that brought about it's own demise are striking. I don't know why I'm explaining this to you. The article laid it out clear as crystal, yet you refuse to see the moral and cultural decline of this country.

I'm ignoring what exactly? Prove to me that "sexual immorality" played a part in the downfall of ancient Greece and Rome.

This is the part of the entire OP that is so laughably. The article doesn't actually prove anything it claims: it merely states it.

There's nothing to 'disprove' as there's been nothing proven. There's a 15 year old opinion from a some dude. And? What possible relevance or objective value does some guys baseless opinion have?

Well, that follows the vast majority of stuff on this board then. People's unfounded opinions based on their own views that lack any basis in reality. I think I'm so used to that sort of thing now.

 

[frigidweirdo]

I don't believe that anyone has ever said that sex is bad. Like everything else, there is a proper time and place for it. I'm guessing that you don't believe in moral absolutes. Sex is something that should be reserved for two consenting adults, that have made a lifetime commitment to each other. You might believe that this is old fashioned, but there is sound reasoning for it. Look at the problems caused by teen pregnancies. Look at the spread of sexually transmitted disease. These are the result of sexual promiscuity. If everyone would simply wait until they were married, then stayed faithful to their spouse, these problems would all but disappear. Tell me I'm wrong.

Sex is something that should be reserved for two consenting adults who have made a lifetime commitment to each other. I don't agree.

I firmly believe that a person should NOT get married as a virgin, they should NOT in most cases get married to someone when they haven't had sex with another person.

Old fashioned? No, I don't think you are old fashioned. I think you make old fashioned sound fun and interesting. You're so much more towards BORING than old fashioned.

The problems that cause teenage pregnancies are that human beings have this thing in them that makes them want to fuck. It's natural. All animals have it, it's how we end up reproducing. It's NATURAL.

Sure, STDs are because of sexual promiscuity. But they're also because people don't do it safely. Because some people are idiots (even people doing PhDs, as in a friend of mine who's doing a PhD in Biology and he got an STD fucking around).

Life isn't always safe. You don't get in a car and know for 100% certainty that you're going to be at home later in the day. Dangers are out there. I've had sex with multiple people, I'm not the sort who fucks around or cheats on people, but I have managed to not get STDs. Why? Because I'm sensible.

 

[Clementine]

I guess it's midnight in 'Murica. Better get to work building that big boat and put all the animals and plants on it. I think we should use a giant hot air balloon this time though. Much cooler.

Did you have something relevant to add?

To a thread predicting the end of civilization? Think I just did.

You would have said the same thing if you had been around for the demise of other countries. You are an example of those in denial. We are in the phase where apathy on the part of the people is allowing corruption to take over.

Why do so many liberals refuse to learn from history? It always repeats when people fail to learn.

 

[frigidweirdo]

The true sign of any "decline in a culture" is when individuals no longer care about their community.

We've reached a point where ours is a "me too" and
"selfishness" society in which people ignore their neighbors, walk by those in need of help, and cannot keep family units together.

The US is so selfish it's incredible. Compared to Europe, the US just feels like a place where no one gives a damn about anyone any more. Go to somewhere like Sweden and you feel more like there's a community.

 

[frigidweirdo]

The true sign of any "decline in a culture" is when individuals no longer care about their community.

Who says that people no longer care about their community?

Again, this entire thread is like a monument to the Begging the Question fallacy. Where your baseless assumptions are your evidence that your baseless assumptions must be right.

Well, you need only come on a message board like this to see people who don't give a damn about their community.

So many excuses as to why they shouldn't have to do anything for their own community.

So many excuses for why ghettos exist, and none of them point to the true problems.

The right wing of US politics especially will spout of a load of nonsense about how it's everyone's individual responsibility to get their own education and get married and stay together, without understanding that when someone grows up in an environment, they learn from the environment, to get out of that environment is hard.