Ted Kennedy dies.

T , your little party does not get to change the definitions of words to suit you political aims.

We are a Republic which is a represntative democracy.

There is no definition for represntative republic because like the guy said earlier it is a redundant phrase.
 
T , your little party does not get to change the definitions of words to suit you political aims.

We are a Republic which is a represntative democracy.

There is no definition for represntative republic because like the guy said earlier it is a redundant phrase.

Politics for me has ZERO to do with anything. I define nothing that the Founders hadn't already written of.

I'd advise YOU to take of your partisan blinders, and join the rest of us individual citizens who cherish their Liberty, and fight for it.

But I see you're in the corner of the STATIST...your ramblings prove it.
 

Read Federalist 47, and 48...

James Madison cited examples (The Original 13 Colnies/States) as to which he described this nation as a "Representitive Rebublic"...While using the term "Democracy".

So your "Dictionary" definition is bogus. And this is your trouble. The Founders left us a set of operating instructions for this nation. Too bad that folks like you continue to ignore them.

James Madison was not the owner of the english language.

and niether are you

But you are?

Immie
 
Nice try.

we are a representative democracy.

It is a type of Democracy
WRONG as usual, we are a Representative REPUBLIC

go get the dictionary definition of that for us please?



Democracy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


now go read the types of democracy that exsist


2 Forms
2.1 Representative
2.1.1 Parliamentary
2.1.2 Liberal
2.2 Constitutional
2.3 Direct
2.4 Participatory
2.5 Socialist
2.6 Anarchist
2.7 Iroquois
2.8 Sortition
2.9 Consensus
2.10 Interactive
2.11 Supranational
2.12 Cosmopolitan
2.13 Non-governmental

See something there TM?

Immie
 
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Wrong. It is a Representitive Republic...
That phrase is redundant.

Its a right wing catch phrase so no surprize

ROFLMNAO...

Again freinds what we're witnessing here is the stark ignorance that defines the ideological Left; First "Representative Republic" is not redundant...

A Republic is a constituent political and territorial unit of a national federation or union, A representative Republic is a constituent political and territorial unit of a national federation or union which is governed through elected representatives.

And these facts and the immutable reasoning which was applied in the Founders CHOOSING the representative Republic over all other types of governance... decidedly rejecting the Social Democracy, for obvious reasons; but all of that boils down in the 'feelings' of the above referenced idiot is that it amounts to little more than a 'catch phrase'...
 
And what is TRUE Democracy, but MOB RULE? And this is why the Founders opted NOT fro a Democracy, but rather a Republic.

Nice try.

we are a representative democracy.

It is a type of Democracy
WRONG as usual, we are a Representative REPUBLIC

Immy thanks for helping me prove my point

Now take a look at this!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic

United States
Main article: Republicanism in the United States

A distinct set of definitions for the word republic evolved in the United States. In common parlance a republic is a state that does not practice direct democracy but rather has a government indirectly controlled by the people. In the rest of the world this is known as representative democracy. This understanding of the term was originally developed by James Madison, and notably employed in Federalist Paper No. 10. This meaning was widely adopted early in the history of the United States, including in Noah Webster's dictionary of 1828. It was a novel meaning to the term, representative democracy was not an idea mentioned by Machiavelli and did not exist in the classical republics.[47]

The term republic does not appear in the Declaration of Independence, but does appear in Article IV of the Constitution which "guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican form of Government." What exactly the writers of the constitution felt this should mean is uncertain. The Supreme Court, in Luther v. Borden (1849), declared that the definition of republic was a "political question" in which it would not intervene. In two later cases, it did establish a basic definition. In United States v. Cruikshank (1875), the court ruled that the "equal rights of citizens" were inherent to the idea of republic. The opinion of the court from In re Duncan[48] held that the "right of the people to choose their government" is also part of the definition.

Beyond these basic definitions the word republic has a number of other connotations. W. Paul Adams observes that republic is most often used in the United States as a synonym for state or government, but with more positive connotations than either of those terms.[49] Republicanism is often referred to as the founding ideology of the United States. Traditionally scholars believed this American republicanism was a derivation of the liberal ideologies of John Locke and others developed in Europe.

The political philosophy of republicanism initiated by Machiavelli was thought to have had little impact on the founders of the United States. In the 1960s and 1970s a revisionist school lead by the likes of Bernard Bailyn began to argue that republicanism was just as or even more important than liberalism in the creation of the United States.[50] This issue is still much disputed and scholars like Kramnick completely reject this view.[51]


and this:

Democratic Republic — Tends to be used by countries who have a particular desire to emphasize their claim to be democratic; these are typically Communist states and/or ex-colonies. Examples include the German Democratic Republic (no longer in existence) and the

# Federal republic, a federation of states with a republican form of government

Immy thanks for helping me prove my point

Oh, you're welcome!

Immie
 
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Nice try.

we are a representative democracy.

It is a type of Democracy
WRONG as usual, we are a Representative REPUBLIC

Immy thanks for helping me prove my point

Now take a look at this!

United States
Main article: Republicanism in the United States

A distinct set of definitions for the word republic evolved in the United States. In common parlance a republic is a state that does not practice direct democracy but rather has a government indirectly controlled by the people. In the rest of the world this is known as representative democracy. This understanding of the term was originally developed by James Madison, and notably employed in Federalist Paper No. 10. This meaning was widely adopted early in the history of the United States, including in Noah Webster's dictionary of 1828. It was a novel meaning to the term, representative democracy was not an idea mentioned by Machiavelli and did not exist in the classical republics.[47]

The term republic does not appear in the Declaration of Independence, but does appear in Article IV of the Constitution which "guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican form of Government." What exactly the writers of the constitution felt this should mean is uncertain. The Supreme Court, in Luther v. Borden (1849), declared that the definition of republic was a "political question" in which it would not intervene. In two later cases, it did establish a basic definition. In United States v. Cruikshank (1875), the court ruled that the "equal rights of citizens" were inherent to the idea of republic. The opinion of the court from In re Duncan[48] held that the "right of the people to choose their government" is also part of the definition.

Beyond these basic definitions the word republic has a number of other connotations. W. Paul Adams observes that republic is most often used in the United States as a synonym for state or government, but with more positive connotations than either of those terms.[49] Republicanism is often referred to as the founding ideology of the United States. Traditionally scholars believed this American republicanism was a derivation of the liberal ideologies of John Locke and others developed in Europe.

The political philosophy of republicanism initiated by Machiavelli was thought to have had little impact on the founders of the United States. In the 1960s and 1970s a revisionist school lead by the likes of Bernard Bailyn began to argue that republicanism was just as or even more important than liberalism in the creation of the United States.[50] This issue is still much disputed and scholars like Kramnick completely reject this view.[51]


Immie

That would be ONE...
 
Democracy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


now go read the types of democracy that exsist

what part of go fuck yourself do you find particularly difficult to understand, harridan?

Lighten up, Francis! :cool:

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~BH
 
Now go get the dictionary definition of a represntative republic?


It doenst exsist my friends
 
Now many of you may be wondering what the bantering of Definitions of "Democracy", v "Republic" has to do with the Death of Teddy Kennedy?

Easy. Kennedy was an enemy of the Republic, and rather a Socialist, Fascist...or more bluntly a Statist. His power, his control via BIG GOVERNMENT was prominent. His ideals belied the Founding of this Republic in favour of Government, over the individual. That's historical fact.

Now on a HUMAN level? I pray for his very soul.

On an intellectual level? He was By, FOR, and about Socialist/Facsist/ Statist Government power over the individual, and therefore what I loathed of his works on this Earth.

Mr. Kennedy? May God show you mercy.
 

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