Teacher tells boy he has to eat alone for not believing in god

[guno]

Students can pray in public school any time they want


The claim that public schools are hostile to Christians … isn’t true.

Truth be told, students of all faiths are actually free to pray alone or in groups during the school day, as long as they don’t disrupt the school or interfere with the rights of others. Of course, the right to engage in voluntary prayer or religious discussion does not necessarily include the right to preach to a captive audience, like an assembly, or to compel other students to participate.

Visit public schools anywhere in America today and you’re likely to see kids praying around the flagpole, sharing their faith with classmates, reading scriptures in free time, forming religious clubs, and in other ways bringing God with them through the schoolhouse door each day.


True or false Students can pray in public school any time they want - The Washington Post

 

[deltex1]

If it's true it was wrong. With that said it's also wrong to prohibit a child from worshiping and/or believing in God also and yes it's happening

Links to children being prohibited from worshipping or believing in God.

Response: Humina humina

Dad Teacher Told My Kid to Stop Lunchtime Prayer Todd Starnes

Just as wrong, see how that works?

Yes I see how it works. So it's not a humina humina. Who gets the Katyushas...you or Closed Butthole?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Students can pray in public school any time they want

True or false Students can pray in public school any time they want - The Washington Post

That would depend upon the level of disruption. No disruption, pray away.

 

[deltex1]

Students can pray in public school any time they want

True or false Students can pray in public school any time they want - The Washington Post

No shit.....but that doesn't prevent teachers/administrators from making assholes of themselves...and embarrassing/ confusing their students.

 

[guno]

This is why religion doesn't belong in a public school


Jewish Parents Sue Alabama School System For Persecuting Their Children


Thursday, August 14, 1997

MONTGOMERY, AL -- The Jewish parents of four public school students have sued an Alabama school system for violating their children's religious freedom, citing dozens of incidents when students, teachers and school officials persecuted their children for being Jews.

The American Civil Liberties Union of Alabama, which represents the family, argues that the Pike County School Board and administrators violated the constitutional right of the students to freely excercise their religion. In addition, the lawsuit says the district failed to stop theharassment, intimidation and threats to the students because of their religion and violated the constitutional prohibition against government endorsement of religion.

The lawsuit, filed August 4th in U. S. District Court for the Middle District in Alabama, was brought on behalf of the children of Sue and Wayne Willis of Pike County. Mr. and Mrs. Willis are Jewish and are raising their children in the Jewish faith.

The Willis children attend Pike County Elementary and Pike County High School. Over the last several years, the lawsuit says, their religious faith has been denigrated repeatedly by teachers, administrators and students. They have been denied the right to practice their faith while other students freely practice theirs. They have been denied the right to express their religious beliefs while repeatedly being forced to participate in overtly Christian assemblies and classroom activities.

The lawsuit further charges that the Willis children have also been the victims of religious bigotry and anti-Semitic hate crimes at the hands of other students. Faculty, adminstrators and school board members have done nothing to stop this persecution.

Mr. and Mrs. Willis have taken their concerns and complaints to all levels of school personnel and the school board during the last few years. Their efforts have been in vain. In response to a complaint from Mrs. Willis in April of this year, Superintendent John Key suggested that the continual harassment would end if the Willis family would convert to Christianity.

One teacher, in response to Mrs. Willis' plea, explained "If parents will not save souls, we have to."

The following are examples of the religious persecution suffered by the Willis children and the entanglement of the Pike County school system with religion. Included in the lawsuit are:

--The Willis children were forbidden to wear Star of David lapel pins. The teacher claimed the Star of David was a gang symbol. Other children in class were wearing crosses.

--The Willis children were forbidden to participate in physical education class while wearing their yarmulkes.

--Two of the Willis children have been physically assaulted by their classmates because of their religion. On one occasion one of the children was beaten by five or six other students.

--Swastikas have been drawn on their lockers, bookbags and jackets. Their yarmulkes, worn on High Holy Days, have been ripped off their heads and used to play "keep away."

--The children are constantly taunted with jeers such as "Jew boys" and "Jewish jokers." These verbal assaults are particularly venomous after blatantly Christian assemblies. Teachers and administrators have done nothing meaningful to stop these acts of cruelty and threats to physically safety, although they have repeatedly been made aware of them.

--The Willis children were ordered by teachers to bow their heads during Christian prayers, even though the teachers knew the children were Jewish . On at least one occasion a teacher physically forced one of the children to bow his head during the delivery of a prayer in an assembly. The prayer was explicitly Christian. The teacher knew the child was Jewish.

Jewish Parents Sue Alabama School System For Persecuting Their Children

 

[Preacher]

As am I. Very much so. Public school is paid for with citizens taxes and run by the state/county government. Religion in school violates separation of church and state and making sure every citizen's child is in zone of teaching not religion. They do make religious schools that's where it belongs not in public schools. We just had to smack a school here around having coach led prayers at football practices etc. We won Pissed off the bible thumpers

Nothing to be proud of. Our daughters compete in gymnastics and before they perform they give the sign of the cross and after do it again and point to the sky to thank God. Some atheist got butt hurt over it and complained they were "offended". That's the stupid shit I'm talking about, all because some asshole wanted to make a stink the entire gymnastic community was in upheaval. They finally ruled they are allowed to do it but it should have never been an issue

Not the place to do it but long as its not adult led then it seems like the courts are allowing it....oh well.

Why is it "not the place to do it" Because people like you get all butt hurt over it? It'a fucking public venue, they were covered by the Constitution. In short? The atheist asshole lost before he started. If you don't like it? DON'T FUCKING GO and IF YOU GO .....DON"T LOOK!!!!! Simple, eh?

Lol...you religious nuts are on the losing end of this battle. Your displays of religion belong at home or in church or your religious schools.

We win in the end.

Believe in fairy tales and lead your life based on a book of fairy tales only to be disappointed in the end that its just a dirt nap instead of some pearly gates and gold roads LOL

 

[daws101]

...meanwhile down the hall..."now kids, if you dont like your body parts you CAN change them" "but teacher, Im only 6".

Seiously, if the story is true...its not only wrong but a very cruel thing to do. The teacher should be dealt with.

your point?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Nothing to be proud of. Our daughters compete in gymnastics and before they perform they give the sign of the cross and after do it again and point to the sky to thank God. Some atheist got butt hurt over it and complained they were "offended". That's the stupid shit I'm talking about, all because some asshole wanted to make a stink the entire gymnastic community was in upheaval. They finally ruled they are allowed to do it but it should have never been an issue

Not the place to do it but long as its not adult led then it seems like the courts are allowing it....oh well.

Why is it "not the place to do it" Because people like you get all butt hurt over it? It'a fucking public venue, they were covered by the Constitution. In short? The atheist asshole lost before he started. If you don't like it? DON'T FUCKING GO and IF YOU GO .....DON"T LOOK!!!!! Simple, eh?

Lol...you religious nuts are on the losing end of this battle. Your displays of religion belong at home or in church or your religious schools.

We win in the end.

Believe in fairy tales and lead your life based on a book of fairy tales only to be disappointed in the end that its just a dirt nap instead of some pearly gates and gold roads LOL

My choice, now why don't you tolerate it....like you loons demand people tolerate your BS. Run along, you're annoying

 

[sealybobo]

The teacher should be disciplined.... but let's do a "shoe on the other foot" scenario:

Teacher does the same to a child who tells another student he does believe in God. You libs would put him/her up for teacher of the year.

Hypocrites.

The fact you believe that makes you a stupid theist who doesn't get it. And again, look at you guys trying to change the subject. Fact is, a religious nut did this. If you can't show me an atheist teacher that did the same only opposite, stfu.

First of all, we wouldn't divide the little kids into believers and non believers. An atheist would never make this kind of mistake. Sorry, you failed.

Excuse me, but the fine print in your playbook says differently Sealy. You have a habit of calling people stupid for beleiving different than you....thats dividing.

Maybe on usmb I do it but I'm not an ahole in real life like I am here.

But I do love pointing out to Christians who realize the Mormons and Muslim religions are man made that they are athiests too. They just happen to believe in one more God than me. Then I do the same with a Muslim and then with a Mormon then Jew.

 

[sealybobo]

Maybe the teacher was just dividing the kids into different groups. Lake if the teacher said all blondes go left all brunettes go right if there were only one brunette will they be picking on the brunette?

 

[daws101]

If it's true it was wrong. With that said it's also wrong to prohibit a child from worshiping and/or believing in God also and yes it's happening

Links to children being prohibited from worshipping or believing in God.

Link to a reputable source of information that this story is even remotely true?

none found but on the other hand

 

[daws101]

As am I. Very much so. Public school is paid for with citizens taxes and run by the state/county government. Religion in school violates separation of church and state and making sure every citizen's child is in zone of teaching not religion. They do make religious schools that's where it belongs not in public schools. We just had to smack a school here around having coach led prayers at football practices etc. We won Pissed off the bible thumpers

Nothing to be proud of. Our daughters compete in gymnastics and before they perform they give the sign of the cross and after do it again and point to the sky to thank God. Some atheist got butt hurt over it and complained they were "offended". That's the stupid shit I'm talking about, all because some asshole wanted to make a stink the entire gymnastic community was in upheaval. They finally ruled they are allowed to do it but it should have never been an issue

Not the place to do it but long as its not adult led then it seems like the courts are allowing it....oh well.

Why is it "not the place to do it" Because people like you get all butt hurt over it? It'a fucking public venue, they were covered by the Constitution. In short? The atheist asshole lost before he started. If you don't like it? DON'T FUCKING GO and IF YOU GO .....DON"T LOOK!!!!! Simple, eh?

Lol...you religious nuts are on the losing end of this battle. Your displays of religion belong at home or in church or your religious schools.

We win in the end.

wake up Dorothy...

 

[Preacher]

Not the place to do it but long as its not adult led then it seems like the courts are allowing it....oh well.

Why is it "not the place to do it" Because people like you get all butt hurt over it? It'a fucking public venue, they were covered by the Constitution. In short? The atheist asshole lost before he started. If you don't like it? DON'T FUCKING GO and IF YOU GO .....DON"T LOOK!!!!! Simple, eh?

Lol...you religious nuts are on the losing end of this battle. Your displays of religion belong at home or in church or your religious schools.

We win in the end.

Believe in fairy tales and lead your life based on a book of fairy tales only to be disappointed in the end that its just a dirt nap instead of some pearly gates and gold roads LOL

My choice, now why don't you tolerate it....like you loons demand people tolerate your BS. Run along, you're annoying

Sure is. But you push your silly beliefs on others who DON'T want it when you do this crap in public. You have churches,homes and schools do it there.

 

[daws101]

The teacher should be disciplined.... but let's do a "shoe on the other foot" scenario:

Teacher does the same to a child who tells another student he does believe in God. You libs would put him/her up for teacher of the year.

Hypocrites.

The fact you believe that makes you a stupid theist who doesn't get it. And again, look at you guys trying to change the subject. Fact is, a religious nut did this. If you can't show me an atheist teacher that did the same only opposite, stfu.

First of all, we wouldn't divide the little kids into believers and non believers. An atheist would never make this kind of mistake. Sorry, you failed.

Excuse me, but the fine print in your playbook says differently Sealy. You have a habit of calling people stupid for beleiving different than you....thats dividing.

Maybe on usmb I do it but I'm not an ahole in real life like I am here.

But I do love pointing out to Christians who realize the Mormons and Muslim religions are man made that they are athiests too. They just happen to believe in one more God than me. Then I do the same with a Muslim and then with a Mormon then Jew.

the Mormons are Christian. all religion is man made.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Why is it "not the place to do it" Because people like you get all butt hurt over it? It'a fucking public venue, they were covered by the Constitution. In short? The atheist asshole lost before he started. If you don't like it? DON'T FUCKING GO and IF YOU GO .....DON"T LOOK!!!!! Simple, eh?

Lol...you religious nuts are on the losing end of this battle. Your displays of religion belong at home or in church or your religious schools.

We win in the end.

Believe in fairy tales and lead your life based on a book of fairy tales only to be disappointed in the end that its just a dirt nap instead of some pearly gates and gold roads LOL

My choice, now why don't you tolerate it....like you loons demand people tolerate your BS. Run along, you're annoying

Sure is. But you push your silly beliefs on others who DON'T want it when you do this crap in public. You have churches,homes and schools do it there.

It's our Constitutional right. That's the thorn in your demand there, dipwad. If my children pray at school or sign the cross there isn't a damn thing you can do about it. Stuff it. In fact I hope they do it and you get the vapors and pass out. Of course anyone that gets so uptight over a kid praying has some deeper issues going on. Maybe you should see a Dr?

 

[featherlite]

...meanwhile down the hall..."now kids, if you dont like your body parts you CAN change them" "but teacher, Im only 6".

Seiously, if the story is true...its not only wrong but a very cruel thing to do. The teacher should be dealt with.

your point?

Most of my point was to be silly and to say I think this teacher was wrong.

...but I know other teachers do pass on questionable things to students.

 

[daws101]

Lol...you religious nuts are on the losing end of this battle. Your displays of religion belong at home or in church or your religious schools.

We win in the end.

Believe in fairy tales and lead your life based on a book of fairy tales only to be disappointed in the end that its just a dirt nap instead of some pearly gates and gold roads LOL

My choice, now why don't you tolerate it....like you loons demand people tolerate your BS. Run along, you're annoying

Sure is. But you push your silly beliefs on others who DON'T want it when you do this crap in public. You have churches,homes and schools do it there.

It's our Constitutional right. That's the thorn in your demand there, dipwad. If my children pray at school or sign the cross there isn't a damn thing you can do about it. Stuff it. In fact I hope they do it and you get the vapors and pass out. Of course anyone that gets so uptight over a kid praying has some deeper issues going on. Maybe you should see a Dr?

nowhere in the constitution does it state, infer ,imply etc. you get to force you religion on any body whether by word deed or public display.

fanatics like sassy are willfully misrepresenting this phrase from the 1st amendment ""prohibit the free exercise" of religious practices"

 

[Slyhunter]

I'm betting the true store was they had a bible meeting during their FREE time lunch period and as such only included other God believing children in their church meeting. Which has already been stated is perfectly alright to do. It isn't their fault he was the only non-believer in the room.

 

[featherlite]

If it's true it was wrong. With that said it's also wrong to prohibit a child from worshiping and/or believing in God also and yes it's happening

Links to children being prohibited from worshipping or believing in God.

Link to a reputable source of information that this story is even remotely true?

none found but on the other hand

I dont think anyone should be forced to "swear to", support or believe in anything they dont want to...period!

...but since you went to a different country to find this scout thing, there is also a "small" cross issue going on in China thats pretty scary.

 

[featherlite]

Maybe the teacher was just dividing the kids into different groups. Lake if the teacher said all blondes go left all brunettes go right if there were only one brunette will they be picking on the brunette?

Maybe the teacher was just dividing the kids into different groups. Lake if the teacher said all blondes go left all brunettes go right if there were only one brunette will they be picking on the brunette?

Being made to sit alone at lunch doesnt say "divide into equal groups for discussion" to me lol.
If the alleged story is true...then she's obviously wrong.