Tea Party vs Libertarians

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    On the surface it seems that the republican party best reflects the core of libertarian values but why would the current libertarian presidential candidate try to siphon votes from the republican party in such a crucial election when he ran for congress as a republican? The Tea Party is merely a pressure group that tries to get the best candidates that recognize the US Constitution but the left absolutely hates the Tea Party and yet tolerates libertarians who spout incredible far right rhetoric. Can it be that the current libertarian party is nothing but a con-job infiltrated by dirty tricks left wing socialists?
     
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    Liberals are more libertarian than conservatives. Republicans have hijacked the term 'libertarian'
     
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    This post is mostly incoherent, but I'll give it my best shot.

    The "left" "tolerates" the Libertarian Party because it is largely considered to hurt the Republicans more than the Democrats. The same reason that the "right" "tolerates" the Green Party.

    Gary Johnson did not run for Congress as a Republican. He's a former Republican Governor, and ran for the Republican nomination for President. He's running as a Libertarian because he doesn't see any difference between Romney and Obama, and because he was never given a fair shot at the Republican nomination.

    As for libertarians "spouting incredible far right rhetoric," I think you've got it backwards. The "right" often spouts libertarian talking points, but they never follow through once in power.
     
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    Not really. There's no way to objectively measure it.
     
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    Test thread for excuses as to why Romney lost.
     
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    Because the Republican Party doesn't reflect the core libertarian values at all.

    Sure, republicans pay mere lip service to them when they're running for office, then they get elected and govern like the socialist progressives they claim to oppose.

    See: Juan McCadaver, Lindsey Graham, Dennis Hastert, Chimpola McShrub, John Boner, Norm Coleman, Arlen Specter, GHW Bush, Bill Frist, Tommy Thompson, Tim Pawlenty....

    You want a con job, look no farther than the RNC, pal.
     
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    Liberals have certain values that conservatives do not share. Those values are shared by libertarian philosophy.

    by deeds and not actions do I judge partisans.
     
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    Some liberals have certain values that line up with libertarianism, just like some conservatives have values that line up with libertarianism. By what objective measure can you decide which has more? You can't.
     
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    I don't agree. Socially, liberals and libertarians are pretty close until you get to the legislative aspect and then we typically part ways because liberals would advocate laws for a lot of things that libertarians wouldn't.

    And of course when it comes to economic matters we're not even in the same universe.

    Closest you'll get is foreign policy, at least in the sense of limiting wars. But again, we part ways on things such as intervention and nation building.
     

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