Tea Party Persecution...Why?

[Foxfyre]

"And the Tea Party is 'unpopular' because it is so very feared by those whose power and wealth might be threatened by the Tea Partier principles and values, and therefore the IRS was ordered to refuse them status, the media is ordered to demonize them as much as possible, and the seminar people are sent to message boards like this one to post the nonsense about them such as you just posted.
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It's a conspiracy, I tell you! Black helecopters, NWO, and the secret masters of the IRS, media, and paid message board trolls..... Object, and risk being audited, or worse, have Rachel Maddows show up at your door at midnight asking you when you stopped beating your wife. They have infiltrated the Boy Scouts, and want to destroy our traditional family values. Soon, you will be forced to hire Jesus to do your yardwark, along with his gay fellow illegal immigrant, Gonzales. When you have had enough and reach for your rifle, you will find that it has been confiscated and replaced by a copy of Chairman Mao's Little Red Book...

And provides fodder for professional trolls who are probably paid or otherwise bribed to infest message boards with your kind of nonsense.

 

[Flopper]

That just reveals the ever growing dependency of government found with each new generation over the last. They may talk about a fiscally responsible government with less taxes, until it means receiving less of what they "believe" they simply just can't do without.

If that's what you believe, then wouldn't it make more sense to propose programs that would make small steps toward a more fiscally responsible government that would stand a chance of being adopted than shooting for the moon. Being a Democrat, it doesn't bother me if the Tea Party attempts to shutdown the government, pisses off every minority in the country, and repeals Obamacare for the 47 time because America needs a working two party system and that's not going happen as long as TP is controlling the GOP.

The Tea Party isn't proposing programs at all. The Tea Party is proposing reforms of the system. They haven't submitted any legislation whatsoever because they are an idea, a concept, a principle, a value rather than an initiative. And they control nothing. If they did, the GOP would be far more effective than it is. We can only hope that those holding the ideas, concepts, principles, and values, will eventually be elected in sufficient numbers to make a difference.

And the Tea Party is 'unpopular' because it is so very feared by those whose power and wealth might be threatened by the Tea Partier principles and values, and therefore the IRS was ordered to refuse them status, the media is ordered to demonize them as much as possible, and the seminar people are sent to message boards like this one to post the nonsense about them such as you just posted.

And because we have become a nation of sheeple, who have the lost the capability of critical thought and no longer value truth and reasoned principles, too many have become gullible idiots, uneducated and brainwashed so that they will swallow the nonsense when it is spoon fed to them and keep the totalitarians in power.

And the country is much the worse off for it.

Maybe the Tea Party doesn't propose legislation but their members certainly do.

So now America is a nation of sheep, without the capability of critical thought, that no longer values truth, uneducated and brainwashed. Don't try to blame the failings of the Tea Party on the American people. The Tea Party is failing, not because America rejects the Tea Party's principals but rather because the party cannot present a workable plan to achieve Tea Party goals. The American people are basically conservative; that is, they are are opposed to radical change which is what Tea Party members are offering them, shutting down the government as a protest or fixing Medicare with a plan to abolish it.

America doesn't need someone to stand in the middle of a burning auditorium and scream fire. What's needed is someone with an evaluation plan.

 

[BlackSand]

... or fixing Medicare with a plan to abolish it.

Uh ... It was President Obama that looted Medicare to the tune of $716 billon to help keep the cost of the ACA below $1.5 trillion ... And then said it was okay because he was fixing the waste and fraud in Medicare.

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[Flopper]

... or fixing Medicare with a plan to abolish it.

Uh ... It was President Obama that looted Medicare to the tune of $716 billon to help keep the cost of the ACA below $1.5 trillion ... And then said it was okay because he was fixing the waste and fraud in Medicare.

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I was referring to Paul Ryan's plan to save Medicare which was soundly rejected by the American people.

 

[BlackSand]

... or fixing Medicare with a plan to abolish it.

Uh ... It was President Obama that looted Medicare to the tune of $716 billon to help keep the cost of the ACA below $1.5 trillion ... And then said it was okay because he was fixing the waste and fraud in Medicare.

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I was referring to Paul Ryan's plan to save Medicare which was soundly rejected by the American people.

Oh ... I am pretty sure the American People (at least half of them) ... Don't give a rat's ass the President looted Medicare.

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[Vandalshandle]

"And the Tea Party is 'unpopular' because it is so very feared by those whose power and wealth might be threatened by the Tea Partier principles and values, and therefore the IRS was ordered to refuse them status, the media is ordered to demonize them as much as possible, and the seminar people are sent to message boards like this one to post the nonsense about them such as you just posted.
"

It's a conspiracy, I tell you! Black helecopters, NWO, and the secret masters of the IRS, media, and paid message board trolls..... Object, and risk being audited, or worse, have Rachel Maddows show up at your door at midnight asking you when you stopped beating your wife. They have infiltrated the Boy Scouts, and want to destroy our traditional family values. Soon, you will be forced to hire Jesus to do your yardwark, along with his gay fellow illegal immigrant, Gonzales. When you have had enough and reach for your rifle, you will find that it has been confiscated and replaced by a copy of Chairman Mao's Little Red Book...

And provides fodder for professional trolls who are probably paid or otherwise bribed to infest message boards with your kind of nonsense.

Well, you can't blame me for being an alarmist, now that you have explained to me that the aniti-tea party powers have ordered the IRS to refuse they status (whatever that means) and the Media has been ordered to demonize them! I can only guess that Fox didn't get the memo....

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

There are likely a lot of republicans in Virginia who’d like to ‘persecute’ the TPM.

 

[HUGGY]

"And the Tea Party is 'unpopular' because it is so very feared by those whose power and wealth might be threatened by the Tea Partier principles and values, and therefore the IRS was ordered to refuse them status, the media is ordered to demonize them as much as possible, and the seminar people are sent to message boards like this one to post the nonsense about them such as you just posted.
"

It's a conspiracy, I tell you! Black helecopters, NWO, and the secret masters of the IRS, media, and paid message board trolls..... Object, and risk being audited, or worse, have Rachel Maddows show up at your door at midnight asking you when you stopped beating your wife. They have infiltrated the Boy Scouts, and want to destroy our traditional family values. Soon, you will be forced to hire Jesus to do your yardwark, along with his gay fellow illegal immigrant, Gonzales. When you have had enough and reach for your rifle, you will find that it has been confiscated and replaced by a copy of Chairman Mao's Little Red Book...

Is this REALLY your kind of nonsense.. ??? ORRRrrrrrr... have you taken it directly from your COMMIE....MANIFESTO..!!!!!!!!!!! ?????????

 

[Flopper]

... or fixing Medicare with a plan to abolish it.

Uh ... It was President Obama that looted Medicare to the tune of $716 billon to help keep the cost of the ACA below $1.5 trillion ... And then said it was okay because he was fixing the waste and fraud in Medicare.

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I was referring to Paul Ryan's plan to save Medicare which was soundly rejected by the American people.

Obamacare reduces Medicare spending by $716 billion (over ten years), but it doesn't reduce Medicare benefits by a single dime. It's unlikely that Medicare beneficiaries will see any noticeable effects at all. About a third of the cuts come from reduced reimbursements to hospitals which offsets revenue increases that will result from having more people covered by insurance. About a third comes from reducing over payments to insurance companies for Medicare Advantage plans. These cut reduces the payments to equal the amount that Medicare pays for beneficiaries without these plans. The remaining cuts comes from a number of areas which is used to eliminate the Medicare Drug program doughnut hole.

An Itsy Bitsy $716 Billion Medicare Q&A | Mother Jones

 

[BlackSand]

An Itsy Bitsy $716 Billion Medicare Q&A | Mother Jones

Ah ... Mother Jones ... Now I know why you don't agree ... Thanks for the insight.

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[Contumacious]

America doesn't need someone to stand in the middle of a burning auditorium and scream fire. What's needed is someone with an evaluation plan.

Translation from "liberal Orwellian doubletalk

America needs a new government agency, more bureaucrats, to increase taxes, inflate the currency and financially feed, insure and support the parasitic hordes.

Right?

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[Lumpy 1]

 

[Redfish]

Uh ... It was President Obama that looted Medicare to the tune of $716 billon to help keep the cost of the ACA below $1.5 trillion ... And then said it was okay because he was fixing the waste and fraud in Medicare.

.

I was referring to Paul Ryan's plan to save Medicare which was soundly rejected by the American people.

Obamacare reduces Medicare spending by $716 billion (over ten years), but it doesn't reduce Medicare benefits by a single dime. It's unlikely that Medicare beneficiaries will see any noticeable effects at all. About a third of the cuts come from reduced reimbursements to hospitals which offsets revenue increases that will result from having more people covered by insurance. About a third comes from reducing over payments to insurance companies for Medicare Advantage plans. These cut reduces the payments to equal the amount that Medicare pays for beneficiaries without these plans. The remaining cuts comes from a number of areas which is used to eliminate the Medicare Drug program doughnut hole.

An Itsy Bitsy $716 Billion Medicare Q&A | Mother Jones

No it doesn't. Obama stole 716 million from medicare to fund the fiasco known as ACA. Seniors will have their care reduced because of this. wake up.

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

Uh ... It was President Obama that looted Medicare to the tune of $716 billon to help keep the cost of the ACA below $1.5 trillion ... And then said it was okay because he was fixing the waste and fraud in Medicare.

.

I was referring to Paul Ryan's plan to save Medicare which was soundly rejected by the American people.

Obamacare reduces Medicare spending by $716 billion (over ten years), but it doesn't reduce Medicare benefits by a single dime. It's unlikely that Medicare beneficiaries will see any noticeable effects at all. About a third of the cuts come from reduced reimbursements to hospitals which offsets revenue increases that will result from having more people covered by insurance. About a third comes from reducing over payments to insurance companies for Medicare Advantage plans. These cut reduces the payments to equal the amount that Medicare pays for beneficiaries without these plans. The remaining cuts comes from a number of areas which is used to eliminate the Medicare Drug program doughnut hole.

An Itsy Bitsy $716 Billion Medicare Q&A | Mother Jones

The other side of cutting costs, a problem that the mainstream media and Obama would rather not have addressed.

A sweeping survey of 13,575 doctors released in September by the Physicians Foundation found that 77 percent were pessimistic about the future of medicine.

The main reason: malpractice lawsuits, which the president’s law did little to address. After that, the top factors cited were “Medicare/Medicaid/government regulations,” “reimbursement issues” and “uncertainty/changes of health reform.”

Craig Garthwaite, professor at the Kellogg School of Management at Northwestern University, said he has concerns about doctor shortages in the coming years even if speculation about an Obamacare-induced physician exodus proves groundless.

He said the problem is that as many as 32 million people are expected to be added to the health care system as a result of Obamacare, half of those as a result of the expansion of Medicaid. Many doctors already refuse to accept Medicaid patients because the government reimbursements for services rendered are well below the market rates.

'Obamacare' health care reform ALREADY forcing doctors to close practices - Washington Times

 

[The T]

I was referring to Paul Ryan's plan to save Medicare which was soundly rejected by the American people.

Obamacare reduces Medicare spending by $716 billion (over ten years), but it doesn't reduce Medicare benefits by a single dime. It's unlikely that Medicare beneficiaries will see any noticeable effects at all. About a third of the cuts come from reduced reimbursements to hospitals which offsets revenue increases that will result from having more people covered by insurance. About a third comes from reducing over payments to insurance companies for Medicare Advantage plans. These cut reduces the payments to equal the amount that Medicare pays for beneficiaries without these plans. The remaining cuts comes from a number of areas which is used to eliminate the Medicare Drug program doughnut hole.

An Itsy Bitsy $716 Billion Medicare Q&A | Mother Jones

No it doesn't. Obama stole 716 million from medicare to fund the fiasco known as ACA. Seniors will have their care reduced because of this. wake up.

Smoking Gun: Obama Admits He Cut Billions from Medicare to Fund Obamacare

President Obama gutted Medicare by $700 Billion in order to partially pay for a brand new entitlement program.

Read more at the link...interesting condemning videos there as well....

 

[mamooth]

Why Tea Party persecution?

Because they get off on it. We're talking a sort of sexual gratification. The Tea Partiers aren't happy unless they can claim persecution, hence they invent endless stories of "persecution".

It's kind of gross. We wish the Tea Partiers would get some rooms and have their victimhood orgies in private.

 

[R.C. Christian]

Don't worry, we'll be in re-education camps soon! Those who can't be fixed like me will be sent on FEMA cars to death camps. Woo hoo.

 

[Foxfyre]

"And the Tea Party is 'unpopular' because it is so very feared by those whose power and wealth might be threatened by the Tea Partier principles and values, and therefore the IRS was ordered to refuse them status, the media is ordered to demonize them as much as possible, and the seminar people are sent to message boards like this one to post the nonsense about them such as you just posted.
"

It's a conspiracy, I tell you! Black helecopters, NWO, and the secret masters of the IRS, media, and paid message board trolls..... Object, and risk being audited, or worse, have Rachel Maddows show up at your door at midnight asking you when you stopped beating your wife. They have infiltrated the Boy Scouts, and want to destroy our traditional family values. Soon, you will be forced to hire Jesus to do your yardwark, along with his gay fellow illegal immigrant, Gonzales. When you have had enough and reach for your rifle, you will find that it has been confiscated and replaced by a copy of Chairman Mao's Little Red Book...

And provides fodder for professional trolls who are probably paid or otherwise bribed to infest message boards with your kind of nonsense.

Well, you can't blame me for being an alarmist, now that you have explained to me that the aniti-tea party powers have ordered the IRS to refuse they status (whatever that means) and the Media has been ordered to demonize them! I can only guess that Fox didn't get the memo....

Except that it is well documented that the IRS targeted the Tea Party and made sure various groups did not qualify for not-for-profit status until the 2010 and 2012 election cycles had passed. It was sufficiently grevious to prompt some House and Senate hearings. Some pretty good documentation of that is in this thread:
http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/305541-phony-scandals.html

So your attempt to ridicule it with ridiculous stuff is either disingenuous or simply red herrings to change the subject?

 

[Stashman]

The reason they persecute the tea party is because there is NO difference between the other two so called parties. They are controlled by the same elites, and their true agenda gets will be successful this way regardless the party left/right that you vote for. The left is more adamantly opposing the tea party, but the right does so as well but in a more subtle manner.

I remember in the beginning when the tea party first came about telling a friend that it will soon be taken over by the right. It wasn't 2 yrs later that Sarah Palin switched over to run on the tea party ticket. Right now, nothing scares the elitist more than any one person or party that touts a constitutional platform. The U.S. Constitution is a hindrance for them, and goes against their true socialist/communist ideology.

IMO, backing a tea party candidate is not what a true constitutionalists should do. The tea party has been infiltrated.

 

[Darkwind]

You would think that a group that believe the government should follow the Constitution, reduce the national debt, lower taxes, reduce government waste and corruption and have fiscally responsible government..would be popular, instead their persecuted by the left and the left want-to-Be's....

But then, how would they be able to bribe the voters to keep them in power if the country did all of that?

They have no moral argument for their opposition to the T.E.A. Party. They simply think that government is the epitome of all that is good and that if you oppose it, you must be a hater and therefore, destroyed.