Tariff Drop, Negotiating Ploy?

[william the wie]

Assuming Trump's end game is a level playing field is this mostly histrionics to get Canada and Mexico off their high horses? How hard ball will this get? What kind of collateral damage to bystanders such as China and the EU is he willing to inflict?

 

[shockedcanadian]

Assuming Trump's end game is a level playing field is this mostly histrionics to get Canada and Mexico off their high horses? How hard ball will this get? What kind of collateral damage to bystanders such as China and the EU is he willing to inflict?

You're not forming the question the right way, the question is, "how much is China, Canada and Mexico willing to pay for their government patsies as they betray capitalist concepts and exploit America before they decide to change their ways"?

This is long overdue. Trump just solidified the Rust Belt votes and I predict he will also get more votes from Black and Hispanic communities who want opportunities and their dignity back, not subsidizing some communist/socialist foreign government to steal these jobs.

 

[william the wie]

You could be right but calling China or Mexico a democracy is not factual. Judging by your posts Canada is not doing well in the same area. I don't see Canada using tanks and machine guns to keep the peace but Mexico and China, yeah.

 

[shockedcanadian]

You could be right but calling China or Mexico a democracy is not factual. Judging by your posts Canada is not doing well in the same area. I don't see Canada using tanks and machine guns to keep the peace but Mexico and China, yeah.

By the way, Trump is doing this under "National Security". Read my posts nearly a year old, maybe older, in which I posted on here that this is the argument Canada uses to enter American corporations in Canada.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

 

[TomParks]

Hey give him his due it was a brilliant move.....locks up the rust belt as stated and more leverage on NAFTA. etc.

 

[william the wie]

Hey give him his due it was a brilliant move.....locks up the rust belt as stated and more leverage on NAFTA. etc.

A 5-10% tariff across the board as deficit reduction would still be less than what the EU, NAFTA and TPP impose on US exports to them.

 

[TheOldSchool]

I love how republicans are so quick to abandon the free market when commanded to by the orange dotard

 

[MarathonMike]

Free market should mean level playing field but international trade has been stacked against America for decades. This is common knowledge.

 

[MarathonMike]

Assuming Trump's end game is a level playing field is this mostly histrionics to get Canada and Mexico off their high horses? How hard ball will this get? What kind of collateral damage to bystanders such as China and the EU is he willing to inflict?

Seeing how Donald Trump operates, he will start with the high hard one under the chin, and then follow up with a change up.

 

[william the wie]

Yeah, his idea of negotiation is not at all pretty to watch.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Assuming Trump's end game is a level playing field is this mostly histrionics to get Canada and Mexico off their high horses? How hard ball will this get? What kind of collateral damage to bystanders such as China and the EU is he willing to inflict?

Seeing how Donald Trump operates, he will start with the high hard one under the chin, and then follow up with a change up.

Or, he could start with one down the middle and then hard and inside when they crowd the plate!

He's good like that, totally unpredictable, though I think he early on he decides, "this is where I am going to be by the end", the ebb and flow of the process is what gets him motivated.

 

[Picaro]

We need certain basic domestic industries regardless of ideological rubbish, and it's not like these multi-nationals ever passed on any savings in costs to consumers, so yes, tariffs are indeed a valid revenue source and yes protecting industries like steel and aluminum from overseas dumpers is a great policy.

You people do know Red China just became an open dictatorship again a few days ago, right? It wants to become a major military power; you want them controlling your supplies of steel or anything else?

This has been a Trump policy for some two years now; there was plenty of time for the markets to adjust.; if some companies didn't, too bad, their friendly traitor and criminal syndicate leaders lost the elections.

 

[Marion Morrison]

I love how republicans are so quick to abandon the free market when commanded to by the orange dotard

The Fed government was funded by tariffs alone for more than a century.

 

[william the wie]

As long as it is revenue not economic policy tariffs are good and easier to collect than other taxes

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Free market should mean level playing field but international trade has been stacked against America for decades. This is common knowledge.

Yeah..but the oldfool is uncommonly stupid,and or partisan.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

We need certain basic domestic industries regardless of ideological rubbish, and it's not like these multi-nationals ever passed on any savings in costs to consumers, so yes, tariffs are indeed a valid revenue source and yes protecting industries like steel and aluminum from overseas dumpers is a great policy.

You people do know Red China just became an open dictatorship again a few days ago, right? It wants to become a major military power; you want them controlling your supplies of steel or anything else?

This has been a Trump policy for some two years now; there was plenty of time for the markets to adjust.; if some companies didn't, too bad, their friendly traitor and criminal syndicate leaders lost the elections.

We need certain basic domestic industries regardless of ideological rubbish,

Absolutely!!!
How much steel and aluminum do we currently produce inside the US?
How much do we need for national security purposes?

 

[Picaro]

I love how republicans are so quick to abandon the free market when commanded to by the orange dotard

The Fed government was funded by tariffs alone for more than a century.

That, and booze.

 

[Picaro]

Yeah, his idea of negotiation is not at all pretty to watch.

Actually, he's pretty mellow; he just isn't intimidated by mau-mau type tactics and bullying.

 

[Picaro]

By the way, we don't import a lot of it from China, but we do from Asia, and the Red Chinese can easily disrupt the trade routes, thanks to weak Presidents and the international labor racketeers who now consider Red China their new corporate BFF. You can read them openly gushing over the shithole every 3 months or so in The Economist and most especially Foreign Affairs periodicals, Forbes, ad nauseam.

 

[Picaro]

Well, now you know why Moore had to go, and he won't be the last major $100 million establishment smear job against a patriotic Senate candidate before 2020.