Suppose that after the Civil War, the US had become two separate countries.

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    Can you imagine what they would be like today? The end of the war would have left a devastated South and a heavily industrialized North.

    Conservatives would have kept on as slave owners. They would have rebuilt their plantations.

    The North would have remained heavily industrialized. Remember, the greatest institutions of American learning are located in the North, or what Conservatives call the "Liberal" part of the country.

    Would western states have joined the growing "North" with it's innovation, freedom and centers or learning? Or would they have joined the south with it's slavery, unrest and plantations, including the South's religious mandate.

    Would the south had become similar to what is going on in the North Bank and Gaza?

    Today, Southern slates are kept afloat by liberal and northern money subsidizing. What would they do without all that Blue State money?
     
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    1. You would still have quasi -Jim Crow Laws that give the appearance of equality but are anything but

    2. I think manufacturing would move to the South because they would have Mexico like labor, environmental and safety rules

    3. I think the current red states from the west would have joined the South with the Pacific States linked to the North
     
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    Democrats were slave owners
     
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    The south would have had their asses kicked by a slave rebellion.

    The north would have supplied weapons.

    Slavery is MORALLY wrong.

    Mans heart can not abide it without damage to the soul.


    Oppression of humans is still happening in the country today.

    Just look at what the right tried to do to voters this election as well as for the last thrity years in elections.

    Idiots who rail about "racecards" any time black people point out the evils STILL occuring in this nation.


    The racists will NOT WIN.

    they are dinosaurs stuck in a tar pit.


    they will scream and fail until the tar removes them from the face of the earth to the benifit of all still living.
     
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    To play along with this little fantasy, you need a time line and some more information.
    Did the end of the war come about as a result of military victory, negotiated settlement, or popular uprising against war in the north?
    If military, does the South achieve military victory in 1861 or later?
    It negotiated end of hostilities, was it early in the conflict or later?

    The social, financial and military conditions of both countries were negatively affected by the war. When and how the conflict ends largely determines what direction each takes in the what if game.
     
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    Oh look, somebody woke up dumbass.
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k80nW6AOhTs]Jane you Ignorant slut - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    you dont care where you fling that tar do you.


    sink liitle dino sink
     
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    Lincoln was a republican you fuckin idiot
     
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    But wasnt the republican considered the liberal progressive party back then? I might need to retract my previous statement
     
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    The South would have had to build a fence to keep their slaves from escaping
     
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    who said he wasnt?

    so was Ike

    So was teddy


    Your current party hates them.

    why do you continue to pretend you like what lincoln did for this country.

    Because you have to pretend you are not racists even though thats the only way you get votes anymore.
     
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    The slaves would have revolted.

    The north would have supplied them with weapons.


    The whole thing would have left the south predomanately black.

    the whites would have fled the south because of all the black people knowing they had a right to kill their oppressor.


    white southerners would have freaked the fuck out and left.
     
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    This thread reads like a who is who in the USMB Dumbotron.
     
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    The Rubber Room should be renamed the Rderp Room
     
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    The fact that anyone thinks that in this parallel universe that the south would still owns slaves needs serious remediation on history. But this thread is a peak into the minds of some of USMBs most "special" members.
     
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    Correct...Likely timeline

    Slaves freed- 1880
    Blacks allowed to own property- 1910
    Blacks given the vote- 1930
    Blacks really allowed to vote- 1980
    Blacks allowed to marry white women- Never
     
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    Blacks cant marry white women? So my friends marriage is illegal?
     

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