flacaltenn
Diamond Member
Oh Reeeeeallly???? So you're going to question my bona fides? Okay, let me be tactful here. You're full of sh1t. You sir, are either a fraud or a really sh1tty businessman. And I am never one to be afraid to put my feet to the fire.
So let me ask the "sage advice" of your highness. Right now, my company has been offered a contract that will net me over $1M. That's right. Me personally. The thing is, if I don't handle it quickly and efficiently, I ruin a reputation I've worked hard to build for more than a decade. That means I would have to hire at least one, if not two people.
Do I take the contract and hire the people?
Do I turn down the contract and let my competitors get it, thus insuring they will have a good chance to capture one of my best clients? Because after all, the All Powerful Oz (Obama), may or may not increase my taxes at some time in the next "X" number of years!!!
Tell me oh wise one, what do I do in a supply demand, market share situation like this?
(This would be where you dodge the question, change the subject, sling some insults or Cut & Run).
So as long as we're talking credentials, I am not some coward who claims to be the head of a business but won't back it up with proof. Our site has been up for years and is easily verifiable.
Of course, any electrical contractor who isn't a complete idiot, will have a site that has been registered with ICANN for a decade or more. So let's see who's full of sh1t. What's your website address? Show me yours and I'm happy to show you mine.
So. We done calling each other a fraud yet? Or are you ready to show the proof I'm happy to provide? And when I prove who I am, are you going to have the character to apologize?
Didn't think so....
So you're comparing an opportunity at ONE CONTRACT to the general decisions of a business owner to RISK capital WITHOUT something just landing in their laps? Perhaps like a decision to move a STRUGGLING business to a better location??
Sorry mr. countryclub.. Not the same.. And indeed it's a special case of what I and others are facing at the moment.. Congrats on the opportunity -- by all means -- go do it.. But you'll be OUT of that CONTRACT before the increased taxes, the increased healthcare costs, the increased energy costs, the increased compliance costs actually hit.. Good for you..
I'm just worried that the folks you hire in for that bonanza won't have a clue that's it's based on ONE contract until you have to lay them off at the end.. The majority of us DON'T run our businesses on a vision of the "next job".. Take the blinders off and look at the GENERAL decisions that need to get made.. And I'm not ATTACKING you -- just encouraging you to look beyond your personal experience when you debate politics in general..
Well let's look at the guy who replied, calling me a fraud. An Electrical contractor. Let's say KB Homes comes to town and needs an electrical contractor. Danm! I guess he can't take the $800K in gross revenues for wiring all those houses?
Because after all, the contract is only good for the one year that it will take to build the subdivision. Kinda like the contract I have with our clients - and of course anyone coming on board during my ONE or TWO PERSON "hiring bonanza", as you call it. It will be over within a year. Which means whomever I hire will only be able to make $70K - $100K during that year. So you think that even knowing this, they won't want the work? What is your reasoning for this?
The other thing you don't consider is that this opportunity enables me to hire and aggressively pursue new contracts during that year. Bigger contracts that I can now handle because I've already got the man power. That was exactly how we built our business the first time, before my brother got sick and we had to close down for a bit.
In either case, the (business savvy) electrical or construction contractor, IT Consultant, lawyer, t-shirt maker, whatever, isn't going to turn down business because Boogey Man Obama may or may not ever raise taxes in the year 2078 or some such nonsense. Not if they want to ever grow or even survive, for that matter.
What I'm saying is that business people living on "opportunities" versus business people living on expected market outlooks -- the decisions are very different. The latter don't want to face a situation where you "have to close down for a bit" as you did. And in your example -- that "opportunity" might not even present itself if KB homes decided NOT to build a new subdivision because their land acquistion costs just went up by the +6% of tax the old geezer farmer was facing when selling his land to them. Because for that one year -- the old geezer farmer was to become the iconic EVIL RICH MILLIONAIRE that you hear about 12 times in every Obama speech. (whether that land sale is income or cap gains doesn't really matter to me -- ALL taxes on "the rich" are in play because of the class warfare thats raging -- the left are just too stupid to know the diff between gains and income tax).
If you think I'm fighting daily for YOU PERSONALLY to keep $60,000 more of that $1Mill windfall, don't flatter yourself --- it's not about YOU (or me). It's a marker on table against the onslaught of unrestrained and undisciplined spending without budgeting. A marker against theiving $3Trill from Universal "insurance programs" and then not being responsible enough to prepare an economy in which it's possible to pay back that theft.
Not because I LOVE all the rich -- but because I don't think that Jay Leno or Phil Mickelson should personally be responsible for the tab for piss-poor governance that WE have condoned. And the percentage of land that the evil rich geezer farmer has taken from him by the govt when he sells it.
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