Study: Obesity adds $190 billion in health costs

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    True cost of obesity in America: $190 billion - Health - Diet and nutrition - msnbc.com

    Here it comes folks.

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    Half of America is eating itself into an early grave.

    About quarter of us are smoking ourselves into one, too.

    I guess the rest of Americans are going to live forever, right?
     
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    What "policy knobs" will the social engineers come up with? ( love that newspeak)

    1. fat taxes
    2. fast food bans
    3. mandatory exercise
    4. telescreens in the fridge
    5. rations
    6. bullying and humiliation?

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    I need a smoke.
     
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    In 1998 the criteria changed making millions of people who arent obese now obese. Not only are not non obest suddenly and falsely obese but not muscular wihth low body fat are obese.
     
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    Mandatory military service could be a way to stop obesity. E.g. 3-6 months mandatory military service after high school to get good knowledge about nutrition and pe. At the same time they can learn military skills and go into the reserve forces or if they want to serve in the army.
     
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    Deany needs the government to tell him what and when to eat
     
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    why do you people refuse any information that shows you why this is happening?
     
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    Thanks corn subsidies! Corporate apologist buffoons...
     
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    I'm surprised the cost is not higher and suspect that it actually is. Trying to put an actual dollar figure on it is not easy. The fact is that anyone overweight is much more likely to need ongoing medical care. We see this with the massive increase in the number of people living with diabetes. While they may die sooner than everyone else, most do still live close to normal lifespans, but because they are not very healthy, they rack up all kinds of medical costs.

    I honestly believe we need to address our public health dilemma, starting with better physical education programs in our schools as well as better education on nutrition for everyone. Americans eat like shit for the most part, and most kids do not get nearly enough exercise. We could address both of these issues in a very cost effective manner. Requiring greater physical activity for kids in school would be fairly easy. Educating people to eat better wouldn't be much harder, although I don't suggest trying to force people to eat things they don't want, just make them aware that eating somewhat healthy isn't as difficult as it sounds.
     
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    It's not so much about when you die, it's about how well you live the years you are alive. After smoking for over 30 years, I finally quit. I feel so much better. I can now breath normally, and because I started working out I actually lost weight. When I first tried to run, I couldn't run around the block. Now I can run a 5K in under 24 minutes, and I'm not done yet. My resting heart rate is down to 45 and my blood pressure is around 110/65.

    Will I live forever? No. Will I live longer than I would have had I stayed on my destructive course of smoking and not exercising? Most likely. But no matter what, from this day forward, I will be able to enjoy life more since I can be more active and do more things, and I will probably require less visits to the doctor.
     
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    I'm not a big fan of high fructose corn syrup. Unfortunately, there really isn't enough evidence to prove it is any worse than regular sugar. I have seen some studies that have shown that the liver metabolizes it differently and slower than regular sugar, but this is based on research with mice, so I don't know. I have cirrhosis of the liver, so I try to stay away from it. I pretty much gave up pop all together and have reduced the amount of sugar, especially in my drinks. Despite having cirrhosis, all my liver functions are normal and I am not doing anything that would make it get worse, so I should be fine so long as I don't do anything stupid like drink alcohol.
     
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    No let the fat people eat more and the smokers smoke. They die younger and are therefore less of a burden on the system. They also pay taxes too so are entitled to health care etc
     
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    According to the article; smokers do die earlier and take LESS from the public system than non-smokers. If money is the reasoning behind smoking bans, it's counter-productive.

    But obese people do not have shorter life spans. So in the minds of the nanny staters, that IS the justification for fast food bans and whatnot. An excellent example of "doublethink".

    We are reading 1984 in my English class. I posed this question to my students who felt that mandatory exercise was an outrageous idea, but fat taxes were not. After further discussion, they came to the conclusion that anyone who buys a burger for a $1 at McDonald's would probably not be dissuaded at $1.50. It wouldn't work.

    Today I am going to share the "mandatory military service" idea posted here to get their reactions.

    Is obesity a problem? Certainly. Can the government fix it? :doubt:
     
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    Its a wash-all those fat asses buy $190 billion dollars worth of cheeseburgers.:lol:
     
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    This study (cited below) directly contradicts that. The evidence led the researchers to conclude that lifetime healthcare costs were highest for “healthy living” people, defined as non-smokers of normal weight. You see, the “healthy living” people have access to the system for far longer than the other two groups, and will as a result incur higher lifetime costs. Smokers cost the least, with obese people in the middle (it didn’t rate obese smokers, but presumably even less). Their study had the following conclusion with respect to health care costs:

    PLoS Medicine: Lifetime Medical Costs of Obesity: Prevention No Cure for Increasing Health Expenditure
     
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    A high school (?) English class takes the economics world by storm by proving the ineffectiveness of Pigouvian taxes. A feel-good story.
     

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