study documents relationship between CO2 concentrations and sea level

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    study documents the natural relationship between CO2 concentrations and sea level - New study documents the natural relationship between CO2 concentrations and sea level

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    CO2 lag temperature.

    Lags

    Lags

    That's a very bad and silly study
     
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    s0n........I dont think you have enough propaganda threads going in this forum. Only 9 threads started on this page alone!!!:D:D Check it out......you cant make this shit up.


    If there is such "consensus" on the science, why is it the most radical of the environmentalists fall all over themselves posting up 10-12 new threads/day!!!:dunno::dunno:



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    Very bad and stupid Frankie Boy for posting nonsense.:badgrin:
     
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    CO2 lag temperature on the increase and decrease.
     
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    See the end of the graph? That red spike.Now look at the blue line. Where the hell is the spike in the blue line?

    And note that the temperature has been higher on the graph before than it is now, yet there has never been the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere during the period on the graph that there is now.

    Not only that, but that is an older graph, for the CO2 is nearly at 400 ppm at present.

    That graph shows the natural order when the Milankovic Cycles were driving the heating and cooling. Today, it is man's addition of GHGs that is driving the changes in temperature in the atmosphere and ocean.

    And the very graph you put up demonstrates that, for there is no blue spike preceding the red spike. And, in the future, you will see a blue spike trailing the red spike.
     
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    The spike at the end of the blue line covers .001% of the timeline.

    See the 8% increase in temperature that preceded the run up in CO2?

    See CO2 lagging it
     
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    Melting ice indicates warmer temperatures. Warmer temperatures plus melting ice equals rising sea level. Rising sea level indicates warmer temperatures. Warmer temperature indicates warmer oceans...wait for it...........wait for it.................wait for it......................


    WARMER OCEANS CAN HOLD LESS ABSORBED CO2 THAN COLDER OCEANS THEREFORE WARMER OCEANS OUTGASSING CO2 RESULT IN HIGHER ATMOSPHERIC CO2 WHICH IS WHY CO2 LAGS INCREASES IN TEMPERATURE.
     
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    Simple physics supports the generality. Specifically, however, we are quite familiar with and capable of identifying the ocean's absorption and emission rates, and identifying the source of atmospheric CO2 according to the isotopic ratios of its composition. Currently the ocean is a net CO2 sink, absorbing much of all the CO2 humanity is emitting. The warming oceans are not yet adding more CO2 than they are absorbing.

    References:
    "Oceanic sources and sinks of atmospheric CO2"
    http://ecco2.jpl.nasa.gov/menemenlis/articles/co2_source-sink_pp.pdf

    "The Oceanic Sink for Anthropogenic CO2"
    http://www1.whoi.edu/mzweb/smpdatadocs/gruber_anthro_co2.pdf


    "Uptake and Storage of Carbon Dioxide in the Ocean: The Global C02 Survey" - http://www.tos.org/oceanography/issues/issue_archive/issue_pdfs/14_4/14_4_feely_et_al.pdf

    (more references available upon request, discussion welcome)

     

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