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    SIERRA VISTA — Thousands of workers in the state are set to strike tonight if a deal is not reached between union leaders and two grocery chains.

    If an agreement between Safeway Inc., Fry’s owner Kroger Co. and the United Food Commercial Workers Union Local 99 is not reached by 6 p.m., about 25,000 union members in the state could walk out.

    Fry’s and Safeway, which together employ more than 400 people in Cochise County, have hired thousands of temporary workers in preparation for a strike.

    Striking union members would receive $100 a week, said Jim McLaughlin, president of the union.

    In September, union members rejected the most recent offer from the employers and voted to authorize its leadership to call a strike if their demands, which include health care coverage without premiums, are not met.

    The offer by the two companies would see employees pay up to $15 a week for coverage.

    “The employers want to shift more health care costs onto the workers by forcing them to pay new premium fees in addition to the co-pays, deductibles and other costs they already pay,” union spokes woman Ellen Anreder said in a statement earlier this week.

    http://www.svherald.com/content/news/2009/11/13/showdown-looming-union-two-grocers

    Code Section 23-1302, et seq.; Ariz. Const. Art. XXV
    Policy on Union Membership, Organization, etc. No person shall be denied opportunity to work because of nonmembership in a union.

    Prohibited Activity Threatened or actual interference with person, his family, or property to force him to join union, strike against his will, or leave job; conspiracy to induce persons to refuse to work with nonmembers; agreements which exclude person from employment because of nonmembership in union.

    In a time when Unemployment is topping 10% and people are struggling to pay bills, again we have a Union management that cares little for the people it represents as they always have other than collecting dues and is urging these people to strike for a benefit that many Americans do not get and thats not having to pay for your health insurance. I have an idea, why not take some of the money you take from these people that are making only 10 dollars an hour in the first place and use that to buy them health insurance rather than pay your over bloated Union management salaries. The fact is there people here in Arizona are going to lose their jobs if they strike as the companies are all set to replace them. Arizona law is on the companies side in this issue and the only people who are going to lose here are the good people who work at these stores because of an outdated 19th and 20th Century thinking that believes that when you don't get your way go on strike that will solve everything. You would think, after Steele, Textile, Auto, Toys, Aerospace, Computers, etc have all left this nation because of it that eventually someone might learn a lesson.
     
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    $15 a week for health insurance? Holy crap - I'd be all over that deal!
     
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    Would it be a good idea to have a universal health care scheme? That might help in this situation.

    I have an idea, what if the taxes these people are paying could be used for a universal health care scheme?

    As for the other parts of the post - what are you suggesting? Workers shouldn't be able to bargain????
     
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    What I'm suggesting is that in this case like most other cases, Union management has become professional management and has little or no interest in its members welfare. A person should be able to bargin with their employer, however I do not think because a person or a group of person do so, that those that are not subject to that agreement between that employees agreement should be made to do so. As I pointed out, many good people here in Arizona are going to lose their jobs over a political issue that the UFCW is pushing and I find this typical of an out of touch management structure that does little but collect dues from its membership for salaries.
     
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    You don't like unions. You don't think individual workers should be able to organise and collectively bargain. Why not come right out with it and stop using weasel words?
     
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    I'll say it Di. I've never liked labor unions. While they served a specific, good purpose at one point in time they have, for the most part in this day and age, become unrealistically parasitic.
     
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    Let me put it to you this way, I think it's pretty clear where my stance is on Unions. While I think any employee should have the right to bargin with their employer. I have little use for labor organizations that have done little for this nation in the past 30 years except contribute to it's industrial demise at the expense of the people they were supposed to be representing. So no, I have little use for Unions as this example I posted is a perfect example of how people that work for a company are represented by professional salary collectors with zero interest in their future. These employee's should be allowed to accept the managements offer if they like it and those that don't let them bargin on their own.
     
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    And thank you Ringel05 for being forthright, it's refreshing.
     
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    It's interesting that you should cite labour unions and the “doing things for the nation”. I am assuming that you realise that unions don't act for the nation but for their members.

    From that would you consider that corporations should be made to do things for the nation?
     
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    Like creating wealth and jobs you mean?
     

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