Stolen Valor

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    It is being challenged now in federal court. Xavier Alvarez, a California man convicted in 2007 of falsely claiming to be a decorated Marine, is asking the U.S. Court of Appeals to overturn the conviction and rule the Stolen Valor Act unconstitutional. A ruling could come at any time.

    Stolen Valor: Challenges to Fake Medals Met with Criticism - ABC News


    I understand that there are 3 separate cases where the ACLU is trying to get the law overturned.

    What say you Veterans? Is falsely claiming medals or service within the 1st amendment rights?
     
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    No body?

    OK, I'll go first.

    These lying scum suckers have no right under the First amendment to falsely claim medals or service. It is a slap in the face to every one of us who has served, And it cheapens the medals many of which the recipient died for.
     
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    I would say that the people who died to defend the bill of rights might be sickened by the abuse the stolen valor law heaps on that bill.

    Yes, falsely claiming you are a decorated combat vet is pathetic, but then the exposure itself should be humiliating. No one who falsely claims to have earned medal can cry foul when mocked after it is shown they are a fraud. That should be the punishment, not more legal repression by the central government.
     
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    Where would the right be without its fake soldiers bashing real soldiers?
     
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    I was not in the military (and if I claimed that I was I would be in violation of the Stolen Valor Act), but I agree that claiming to have been awarded military medals is highly inappropriate, and should be a crime if used to seek benefits or other accolades.

    But in what situation is it and should it be inforced?
     
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    Pretending to be a decorated soldier? He should have "moron" tattooed across his forehead.

    Sometimes, the ACLU takes up a case because the law may not be completely clear. I know Republicans scream their hatred for the ACLU, but half of all their cases support Republicans. Even Sean Hannity was represented by the ACLU.

    News Hounds: Sean Hannity Omits Key Details Of Past Job Dismissal ? And ACLU Assistance!

    Speaking of fake medals.

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    rdean, you never cease to amaze me. You even have to cheapen this thread with your vile hatred and lies. Neg rep will be coming as soon as I have more rep to spread around. You betcha!
     
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    It is my pleasure to undertake the task of negging the little shit.
     
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    It is Fraud. The book is a real eye opener. The Law is Just.
     
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    I agree it should be a crime if it is used to falsely claim benefits.

    However, lying and bragging should not be a crime. If you claim you have a PhD should you go to jail? If you claim you used to play third base for theYankee's, Should you be arrested?
    If you claim you were a mighty warrier but it turns out you worked in the kitchen....should you be arrested?
     

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