Statues coming down in the UK.

[Lucy Hamilton]

Totally against what he stood for, but don't think we should destroy our history warts and all!

Wrong.

History is not being ‘destroyed’ – Colston’s crimes and those like him will always be remembered.

What’s being destroyed – appropriately – is the misguided, wrongheaded, unwarranted commemoration of such criminals.

How was he a criminal when what he was doing was the LAW during those times, what he was doing was NOT illegal.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

BLM protesters topple statue of Bristol slave trader Edward Colston

Statue that had long been a focal point of local anger rolled down to harbour and pushed into the water

www.theguardian.com

Colston’s company transported more than 100,000 slaves from West Africa to the Caribbean and the Americas between 1672 and 1689, cramming them into ships to maximise profit.

The slaves, including women and children, were branded on the chest with the company’s initials, RAC. Unhygienic conditions, dehydration, dysentery and scurvy killed more than 20,000 during the crossings and their bodies were thrown overboard.

Fantastic stuff. Hope that it is just the start.

George Orwell would feel vindicated....

He'd just have to know his book should have been titled 2020.

In the not to distant future a MAJORITY of NORMAL SANE peoples are going to get tired of hearing the Leftist scum and hearing all these Blacks whining about things that ENDED more than 200 years ago. It's not EVERYONES fault that the Blacks are not able to get their shit together and get a job and get a life. They are literally the WORST of the Welfare Queens, they literally think they should just sit on their buttocks and EVERYONE ELSE just pay them for being Black.

In America they even have the RACIST Affirmative Action that literally gives the whining Blacks things NOT on MERIT but BECAUSE they are Black and they STILL can't get their shit together. So what does THAT say? It says ALL the Blacks problems are the FAULT of the Blacks themselves.

 

[fncceo]

Unhygienic conditions, dehydration, dysentery and scurvy

I see you've taken a Carnival Cruise too...

 

[Olde Europe]

Yeah, no idea why this might cause a bit of a ruckus:

At the moment, the statue’s only plaque is the one placed on it in 1895 when the statue was erected in The Centre. It makes no mention of the slave trade and reads: “Erected by citizens of Bristol as a memorial of one of the most virtuous and wise sons of their city”.​

A slave-trading profiteer, responsible for 100,000 enslaved and close to 20,000 deaths - and we don't even know how many more were worked to death or plainly killed on these plantations. The "most virtuous and wise..." I am almost, almost convinced, that statue should have remained, along with that plaque, so as to remind the good denizens of Bristol of their history, shameful as it is, and their utterly embarrassing decision, in 1895, to celebrate their own profitable atrocities with that statue.

 

[Dana7360]

The statue was of Edward Colton. A slave trader who brought 84 thousand women, men and children to the Americas as slaves.

The people of Bristol have wanted that statue removed for a while now. Apparently their petitions and calls for it to be removed weren't listened so the people took matters in their own hands.

I don't know if the sea is the place for it, maybe a museum would be better but the city had that chance and ignored it.

Slave trader statue toppled by protesters at Black Lives Matter rally

A statue of Edward Colston, a 17th-century slave trader, has been toppled in Bristol by Black Lives Matter protesters.

www.standard.co.uk

 

[Asclepias]

Love love love it.

 

[Jitss617]

I bet they were leftists kinda like the guy? Lol

 

[Dekster]

The statue was of Edward Colton. A slave trader who brought 84 thousand women, men and children to the Americas as slaves.

The people of Bristol have wanted that statue removed for a while now. Apparently their petitions and calls for it to be removed weren't listened so the people took matters in their own hands.

I don't know if the sea is the place for it, maybe a museum would be better but the city had that chance and ignored it.

Slave trader statue toppled by protesters at Black Lives Matter rally

A statue of Edward Colston, a 17th-century slave trader, has been toppled in Bristol by Black Lives Matter protesters.

www.standard.co.uk

They can just hire some black dayworkers to fish it out of he harbor

 

[idb]

I read that it wasn't thrown into the sea...apparently it tripped and fell.

 

[Shelzin]

Weird to have a statue of a slave trader in the first place. o.0

 

[WEATHER53]

History hurts peoples feelings so all sights of it must be removed.
Lib 101

 

[Jitss617]

Weird to have a statue of a slave trader in the first place. o.0

I have one

 

[Dekster]

We should raid the museums and throw all the mummies in the sea. Only 1%er slave owners could afford to be mummified and buried in a pyramid.

 

[Asclepias]

Weird to have a statue of a slave trader in the first place. o.0

I have one

You have a sticky one though.

 

[Jitss617]

Weird to have a statue of a slave trader in the first place. o.0

I have one

You have a sticky one though.

Huh

 

[skye]

England is not the England we knew anymore.

It has changed.

And not for the good.

Too sad.

 

[Silver Cat]

Totally against what he stood for, but don't think we should destroy our history warts and all!

Oh, it's just a natural part of the British mindset.
You know:
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The speech had been proceeding for perhaps twenty minutes when a messenger hurried on to the platform and a scrap of paper was slipped into the speaker's hand. He unrolled and read it without pausing in his speech. Nothing altered in his voice or manner, or in the content of what he was saying, but suddenly the names were different. Without words said, a wave of understanding rippled through the crowd. Oceania was at war with Eastasia! The next moment there was a tremendous commotion. The banners and posters with which the square was decorated were all wrong! Quite half of them had the wrong faces on them. It was sabotage! The agents of Goldstein had been at work! There was a riotous interlude while posters were ripped from the walls, banners torn to shreds and trampled underfoot. The Spies performed prodigies of activity in clambering over the rooftops and cutting the streamers that fluttered from the chimneys. But within two or three minutes it was all over. The orator, still gripping the neck of the microphone, his shoulders hunched forward, his free hand clawing at the air, had gone straight on with his speech. One minute more, and the feral roars of rage were again bursting from the crowd. The Hate continued exactly as before, except that the target had been changed.

The thing that impressed Winston in looking back was that the speaker had switched from one line to the other actually in midsentence, not only without a pause, but without even breaking the syntax. But at the moment he had other things to preoccupy him. It was during the moment of disorder while the posters were being torn down that a man whose face he did not see had tapped him on the shoulder and said, 'Excuse me, I think you've dropped your brief-case.' He took the brief-case abstractedly, without speaking. He knew that it would be days before he had an opportunity to look inside it. The instant that the demonstration was over he went straight to the Ministry of Truth, though the time was now nearly twenty-three hours. The entire staff of the Ministry had done likewise. The orders already issuing from the telescreen, recalling them to their posts, were hardly necessary.

Oceania was at war with Eastasia: Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia. A large part of the political literature of five years was now completely obsolete. Reports and records of all kinds, newspapers, books, pamphlets, films, sound-tracks, photographs -- all had to be rectified at lightning speed. Although no directive was ever issued, it was known that the chiefs of the Department intended that within one week no reference to the war with Eurasia, or the alliance with Eastasia, should remain in existence anywhere. The work was overwhelming, all the more so because the processes that it involved could not be called by their true names. Everyone in the Records Department worked eighteen hours in the twenty-four, with two three-hour snatches of sleep. Mattresses were brought up from the cellars and pitched all over the corridors: meals consisted of sandwiches and Victory Coffee wheeled round on trolleys by attendants from the canteen. Each time that Winston broke off for one of his spells of sleep he tried to leave his desk clear of work, and each time that he crawled back sticky-eyed and aching, it was to find that another shower of paper cylinders had covered the desk like a snowdrift, half burying the speakwrite and overflowing on to the floor, so that the first job was always to stack them into a neat enough pile to give him room to work. What was worst of all was that the work was by no means purely mechanical. Often it was enough merely to substitute one name for another, but any detailed report of events demanded care and imagination. Even the geographical knowledge that one needed in transferring the war from one part of the world to another was considerable.
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Do you remember all that films with "afro-british knights"?
"Britain is a tolerant and multiracial state, Britain had always been a tolerant and multiracial state".
Sad, but true.

 

[Silver Cat]

BLM protesters topple statue of Bristol slave trader Edward Colston

Statue that had long been a focal point of local anger rolled down to harbour and pushed into the water

www.theguardian.com

Colston’s company transported more than 100,000 slaves from West Africa to the Caribbean and the Americas between 1672 and 1689, cramming them into ships to maximise profit.

The slaves, including women and children, were branded on the chest with the company’s initials, RAC. Unhygienic conditions, dehydration, dysentery and scurvy killed more than 20,000 during the crossings and their bodies were thrown overboard.

Fantastic stuff. Hope that it is just the start.

George Orwell would feel vindicated....

He'd just have to know his book should have been titled 2020.

In the not to distant future a MAJORITY of NORMAL SANE peoples are going to get tired of hearing the Leftist scum and hearing all these Blacks whining about things that ENDED more than 200 years ago.

There are good chances, that this "majority of normal sane people" will say: "Britain is an Islamic Republic and it always was an Islamic Republic", and then they will destroy all reminders of any alternative point of view.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Yeah, no idea why this might cause a bit of a ruckus:

At the moment, the statue’s only plaque is the one placed on it in 1895 when the statue was erected in The Centre. It makes no mention of the slave trade and reads: “Erected by citizens of Bristol as a memorial of one of the most virtuous and wise sons of their city”.​

A slave-trading profiteer, responsible for 100,000 enslaved and close to 20,000 deaths - and we don't even know how many more were worked to death or plainly killed on these plantations. The "most virtuous and wise..." I am almost, almost convinced, that statue should have remained, along with that plaque, so as to remind the good denizens of Bristol of their history, shameful as it is, and their utterly embarrassing decision, in 1895, to celebrate their own profitable atrocities with that statue.

I worked in Bristol many years ago and must have walked past this statue hundreds of times. Had no idea who he was. Knocking the evil fucker down is actually history, a great day for the city.

 

[Olde Europe]

I worked in Bristol many years ago and must have walked past this statue hundreds of times. Had no idea who he was. Knocking the evil fucker down is actually history, a great day for the city.

Yep. It's part and parcel of White Privilege not to know, not to learn about White Privilege, least of all about the atrocities it entailed and the injustices it still entails. That's why they endlessly haggled over the wording of a second plaque describing that monster's life, all but eliminating slave trade from the eulogy.

Having (had) that statue standing there is (was) shameful. I can't help it, Tom, simply removing that reminder of Bristol's shame is also shameful. Or so I find. Of course, I understand the black community's outrage over a statue in honor of that swine. There ought to be a better, smarter, more educational way to deal with that quandary.

Maybe something analogous to this would be the way to go, documenting every slave ship's journey, along with the number of those enslaved, murdered and thrown overboard:

The memorial includes 805 hanging steel rectangles, representing each of the counties in the United States where a documented lynching took place​

Colston's statue, remembering him directing, and profiting from, it all, along with preserving the memory of the good citizens of Bristol benefiting from that benefactor, and honoring him, could find a place there.