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They can stay as long as they want. They won't be removed. They don't have to pay taxes. They get free healthcare. They get free schooling for their kids. We give their kids citizenship. We give their kids in state tuition. They take our kids places at college because they are minorities.huh? what do you mean?they already have AMNESTYThe Republicans in congress ARE going to give them amnesty so they can garner the Hispanic vote.... the writing is on the wall.... I read a Briebart article yesterday on it, which pretty much showed how congressional leadership has set it up, to be so...The Democrats first lost the House. Then in the next midterm election the Senate, with the Republicans gained the second largest House majority in our nation's history. This looks more like a desperate plea by this President to try and use whatever means he can, to get another voting block to support putting his party back into power.
true story
Republicans are gonna give them an offer to pay taxes like the rest of the people that work in this country.
Not true. The Republican Majority in the House, 56% is certainly not the largest in history. In the 95th Congress, Democrats controlled 64% of the House and in the 73rd Congress, they controlled 75% of the House.The Democrats first lost the House. Then in the next midterm election the Senate, with the Republicans gained the second largest House majority in our nation's history. This looks more like a desperate plea by this President to try and use whatever means he can, to get another voting block to support putting his party back into power.
oh, so Rubio is on the same page as President Obama and wants these parents of American citizen children to be able to work and pay taxes? That's good to know....They can stay as long as they want. They won't be removed. They don't have to pay taxes. They get free healthcare. They get free schooling for their kids. We give their kids citizenship. We give their kids in state tuition. They take our kids places at college because they are minorities.huh? what do you mean?they already have AMNESTYThe Republicans in congress ARE going to give them amnesty so they can garner the Hispanic vote.... the writing is on the wall.... I read a Briebart article yesterday on it, which pretty much showed how congressional leadership has set it up, to be so...The Democrats first lost the House. Then in the next midterm election the Senate, with the Republicans gained the second largest House majority in our nation's history. This looks more like a desperate plea by this President to try and use whatever means he can, to get another voting block to support putting his party back into power.
true story
Republicans are gonna give them an offer to pay taxes like the rest of the people that work in this country.
Working is working... paying taxes is paying taxes. If you want to see how it will work see Rubio's plan.
The problem is republicans are attempting to govern by opinion polls, they see almost half are opposed to the president's EO and incorrectly infer that the voters want republicans to fight with Obama over this, when in fact that's the last thing voters want done, they want Congress to enact meaningful immigration reform:Yep, with a 2/3 vote of both the House and Senate Republicans can pass legislation to nullifies it and overrides a presidential veto. However, since Republicans have only 56% of the House and 54% of the Senate, there is almost no chance of it happening.Executive Orders and Presidential Memorandums carry the wait of law but they are not laws. Executive Actions are orders that are within the scope of existing law. Unlike laws congress passes, these actions by the president are temporary and last only as long as the president is in office. They are not laws nor are they changes to the law.Jake, when have YOU been able to provide any data? Seriously. "Information from the board" may be all you can say if you can't even defend your own position.
Shakles, I have read all of the information available. You have not. You can't compete.
The EO can't be shaken in court. Watch as your arguments are dismissed.
I figure from the evidence to the conclusions; you begin with a conclusion and then fit evidence to it. The EO is an EO. It is what it is.
That's why you always fail.
Why don't you present YOUR evidence on why you think Obama's executive order still respects those immigrants who came here legally and would treat ALL immigrants the same under this provision. Why do you think it should still stand, and where it specifically states in the Constitution that this President has the executive authority to simply change laws that he doesn't agree with? Really Jake, anyone can make a small comment over what someone else said without backing it up.
I do respect Care4all for her input in presenting an interesting argument regarding the reason for the need to address the issue, and is one of among a few here willing to have a real discussion about it through an opposing view.
Every law enforcement agency, including the agencies that enforce immigration laws, has “prosecutorial discretion” — the power to decide whom to investigate, arrest, detain, charge, and prosecute. Homeland Security can legally prioritize and delay prosecution and deportation. Immigration laws gives the administration wide latitude in granting work permits.
Executive Orders and Executive Actions can be reversed by Congress.
Not quite true. Illegal Immigrants are not eligible for Medicaid nor are they eligible for Obamacare Health Insurance subsidies. The only healthcare they are eligible for is emergency room service which is mandated by EMTALA passed in 1986.They can stay as long as they want. They won't be removed. They don't have to pay taxes. They get free healthcare. They get free schooling for their kids. We give their kids citizenship. We give their kids in state tuition. They take our kids places at college because they are minorities.huh? what do you mean?they already have AMNESTYThe Republicans in congress ARE going to give them amnesty so they can garner the Hispanic vote.... the writing is on the wall.... I read a Briebart article yesterday on it, which pretty much showed how congressional leadership has set it up, to be so...The Democrats first lost the House. Then in the next midterm election the Senate, with the Republicans gained the second largest House majority in our nation's history. This looks more like a desperate plea by this President to try and use whatever means he can, to get another voting block to support putting his party back into power.
true story
Republicans are gonna give them an offer to pay taxes like the rest of the people that work in this country.
Working is working... paying taxes is paying taxes. If you want to see how it will work see Rubio's plan.
Yep, with a 2/3 vote of both the House and Senate Republicans can pass legislation to nullifies it and overrides a presidential veto. However, since Republicans have only 56% of the House and 54% of the Senate, there is almost no chance of it happening.Executive Orders and Presidential Memorandums carry the wait of law but they are not laws. Executive Actions are orders that are within the scope of existing law. Unlike laws congress passes, these actions by the president are temporary and last only as long as the president is in office. They are not laws nor are they changes to the law.Jake, when have YOU been able to provide any data? Seriously. "Information from the board" may be all you can say if you can't even defend your own position.
Shakles, I have read all of the information available. You have not. You can't compete.
The EO can't be shaken in court. Watch as your arguments are dismissed.
I figure from the evidence to the conclusions; you begin with a conclusion and then fit evidence to it. The EO is an EO. It is what it is.
That's why you always fail.
Why don't you present YOUR evidence on why you think Obama's executive order still respects those immigrants who came here legally and would treat ALL immigrants the same under this provision. Why do you think it should still stand, and where it specifically states in the Constitution that this President has the executive authority to simply change laws that he doesn't agree with? Really Jake, anyone can make a small comment over what someone else said without backing it up.
I do respect Care4all for her input in presenting an interesting argument regarding the reason for the need to address the issue, and is one of among a few here willing to have a real discussion about it through an opposing view.
Every law enforcement agency, including the agencies that enforce immigration laws, has “prosecutorial discretion” — the power to decide whom to investigate, arrest, detain, charge, and prosecute. Homeland Security can legally prioritize and delay prosecution and deportation. Immigration laws gives the administration wide latitude in granting work permits.
Executive Orders and Executive Actions can be reversed by Congress.
no law is passed by congress without the president's signature/ okaying it.... don't they have to be signed by the president? or the president vetoes it.Yep, with a 2/3 vote of both the House and Senate Republicans can pass legislation to nullifies it and overrides a presidential veto. However, since Republicans have only 56% of the House and 54% of the Senate, there is almost no chance of it happening.Executive Orders and Presidential Memorandums carry the wait of law but they are not laws. Executive Actions are orders that are within the scope of existing law. Unlike laws congress passes, these actions by the president are temporary and last only as long as the president is in office. They are not laws nor are they changes to the law.Shakles, I have read all of the information available. You have not. You can't compete.
The EO can't be shaken in court. Watch as your arguments are dismissed.
I figure from the evidence to the conclusions; you begin with a conclusion and then fit evidence to it. The EO is an EO. It is what it is.
That's why you always fail.
Why don't you present YOUR evidence on why you think Obama's executive order still respects those immigrants who came here legally and would treat ALL immigrants the same under this provision. Why do you think it should still stand, and where it specifically states in the Constitution that this President has the executive authority to simply change laws that he doesn't agree with? Really Jake, anyone can make a small comment over what someone else said without backing it up.
I do respect Care4all for her input in presenting an interesting argument regarding the reason for the need to address the issue, and is one of among a few here willing to have a real discussion about it through an opposing view.
Every law enforcement agency, including the agencies that enforce immigration laws, has “prosecutorial discretion” — the power to decide whom to investigate, arrest, detain, charge, and prosecute. Homeland Security can legally prioritize and delay prosecution and deportation. Immigration laws gives the administration wide latitude in granting work permits.
Executive Orders and Executive Actions can be reversed by Congress.
Sorry --- you missed on this one.
1) A 2/3 vote in both houses is required to override a VETO.
2) Congress can override an executive order, or executive action, simply by passing a law that conflicts with it. In this case, for example, Congress can pass a law that says the President may not grant immigration rights or benefits to illegal immigrants. That would certainly be feasible in the current Congressional structure.
3) The president would then veto the law overriding the order, and because republicans lack the votes to override that veto, the EO would remain in effect.Yep, with a 2/3 vote of both the House and Senate Republicans can pass legislation to nullifies it and overrides a presidential veto. However, since Republicans have only 56% of the House and 54% of the Senate, there is almost no chance of it happening.Executive Orders and Presidential Memorandums carry the wait of law but they are not laws. Executive Actions are orders that are within the scope of existing law. Unlike laws congress passes, these actions by the president are temporary and last only as long as the president is in office. They are not laws nor are they changes to the law.Shakles, I have read all of the information available. You have not. You can't compete.
The EO can't be shaken in court. Watch as your arguments are dismissed.
I figure from the evidence to the conclusions; you begin with a conclusion and then fit evidence to it. The EO is an EO. It is what it is.
That's why you always fail.
Why don't you present YOUR evidence on why you think Obama's executive order still respects those immigrants who came here legally and would treat ALL immigrants the same under this provision. Why do you think it should still stand, and where it specifically states in the Constitution that this President has the executive authority to simply change laws that he doesn't agree with? Really Jake, anyone can make a small comment over what someone else said without backing it up.
I do respect Care4all for her input in presenting an interesting argument regarding the reason for the need to address the issue, and is one of among a few here willing to have a real discussion about it through an opposing view.
Every law enforcement agency, including the agencies that enforce immigration laws, has “prosecutorial discretion” — the power to decide whom to investigate, arrest, detain, charge, and prosecute. Homeland Security can legally prioritize and delay prosecution and deportation. Immigration laws gives the administration wide latitude in granting work permits.
Executive Orders and Executive Actions can be reversed by Congress.
Sorry --- you missed on this one.
1) A 2/3 vote in both houses is required to override a VETO.
2) Congress can override an executive order, or executive action, simply by passing a law that conflicts with it. In this case, for example, Congress can pass a law that says the President may not grant immigration rights or benefits to illegal immigrants. That would certainly be feasible in the current Congressional structure.
3) The president would then veto the law overriding the order, and because republicans lack the votes to override that veto, the EO would remain in effect.Yep, with a 2/3 vote of both the House and Senate Republicans can pass legislation to nullifies it and overrides a presidential veto. However, since Republicans have only 56% of the House and 54% of the Senate, there is almost no chance of it happening.Executive Orders and Presidential Memorandums carry the wait of law but they are not laws. Executive Actions are orders that are within the scope of existing law. Unlike laws congress passes, these actions by the president are temporary and last only as long as the president is in office. They are not laws nor are they changes to the law.Why don't you present YOUR evidence on why you think Obama's executive order still respects those immigrants who came here legally and would treat ALL immigrants the same under this provision. Why do you think it should still stand, and where it specifically states in the Constitution that this President has the executive authority to simply change laws that he doesn't agree with? Really Jake, anyone can make a small comment over what someone else said without backing it up.
I do respect Care4all for her input in presenting an interesting argument regarding the reason for the need to address the issue, and is one of among a few here willing to have a real discussion about it through an opposing view.
Every law enforcement agency, including the agencies that enforce immigration laws, has “prosecutorial discretion” — the power to decide whom to investigate, arrest, detain, charge, and prosecute. Homeland Security can legally prioritize and delay prosecution and deportation. Immigration laws gives the administration wide latitude in granting work permits.
Executive Orders and Executive Actions can be reversed by Congress.
Sorry --- you missed on this one.
1) A 2/3 vote in both houses is required to override a VETO.
2) Congress can override an executive order, or executive action, simply by passing a law that conflicts with it. In this case, for example, Congress can pass a law that says the President may not grant immigration rights or benefits to illegal immigrants. That would certainly be feasible in the current Congressional structure.
And your example isn't applicable in this case, as the EO neither 'grants immigration rights' nor does it afford 'benefits' to those undocumented.
Pretty sure Obama's plan is to have these illegals sign up for welfare and become dependents of the state like most democrats.oh, so Rubio is on the same page as President Obama and wants these parents of American citizen children to be able to work and pay taxes? That's good to know....They can stay as long as they want. They won't be removed. They don't have to pay taxes. They get free healthcare. They get free schooling for their kids. We give their kids citizenship. We give their kids in state tuition. They take our kids places at college because they are minorities.huh? what do you mean?they already have AMNESTYThe Republicans in congress ARE going to give them amnesty so they can garner the Hispanic vote.... the writing is on the wall.... I read a Briebart article yesterday on it, which pretty much showed how congressional leadership has set it up, to be so...The Democrats first lost the House. Then in the next midterm election the Senate, with the Republicans gained the second largest House majority in our nation's history. This looks more like a desperate plea by this President to try and use whatever means he can, to get another voting block to support putting his party back into power.
true story
Republicans are gonna give them an offer to pay taxes like the rest of the people that work in this country.
Working is working... paying taxes is paying taxes. If you want to see how it will work see Rubio's plan.
Link?3) The president would then veto the law overriding the order, and because republicans lack the votes to override that veto, the EO would remain in effect.Yep, with a 2/3 vote of both the House and Senate Republicans can pass legislation to nullifies it and overrides a presidential veto. However, since Republicans have only 56% of the House and 54% of the Senate, there is almost no chance of it happening.Executive Orders and Presidential Memorandums carry the wait of law but they are not laws. Executive Actions are orders that are within the scope of existing law. Unlike laws congress passes, these actions by the president are temporary and last only as long as the president is in office. They are not laws nor are they changes to the law.
Every law enforcement agency, including the agencies that enforce immigration laws, has “prosecutorial discretion” — the power to decide whom to investigate, arrest, detain, charge, and prosecute. Homeland Security can legally prioritize and delay prosecution and deportation. Immigration laws gives the administration wide latitude in granting work permits.
Executive Orders and Executive Actions can be reversed by Congress.
Sorry --- you missed on this one.
1) A 2/3 vote in both houses is required to override a VETO.
2) Congress can override an executive order, or executive action, simply by passing a law that conflicts with it. In this case, for example, Congress can pass a law that says the President may not grant immigration rights or benefits to illegal immigrants. That would certainly be feasible in the current Congressional structure.
And your example isn't applicable in this case, as the EO neither 'grants immigration rights' nor does it afford 'benefits' to those undocumented.
Not true ... the EO is cancelled by the passage of the law ... even though the President COULD re-invoke the EO (effectively a new one)
First of all, Obama is playing word games with you --- he did NOT publish an Executive Order --- he published an Executive Action ---
His Executive Action had two primary parts:
1) A direction to HLS to not deport illegal immigrants unless they have committed a criminal act (Not in their home country, but in ours --- theoretically, a mass murderer from Guatemala could stay here - of course, that would never happen - but the structure of the EA allows it to happen)
2) The executive action granted certain privileges to illegal immigrants - i.e., Social Security, welfare benefits, Obamacare, etc. To prove that:
During a briefing earlier this week, White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest said it was his understanding that if immigrants paid taxes, they would be eligible for Social Security and Medicare. Earnest said:
"The goal of the executive — one of the goals of the executive action program or executive action that the President announced, as it relates to immigration, about 10 days ago, was related to bringing those individuals who have been in this country for some time out of the shadows, giving them a work permit ... and under the books, and giving them a Social Security number and making them taxpayers. And that does mean that they're going to be filing their taxes on a regular basis and that does mean that if they qualify for the child tax credit, for example, as a taxpayer that would be something that they would benefit from. But we released this study from the Council of Economic Advisers who talked about the significant economic benefits for the country associated with bringing these individuals out of the shadows so they're not getting paid in cash under the table but actually sort of part of the broader economy."
Katherine Vargas, a White House spokeswoman, told us in an email that once immigrants register under deferred action, they become taxpayers, contributing their "fair share into Social Security and Medicare."
"And only after they've paid taxes for over a decade will they become eligible for Social Security," Vargas wrote. "As taxpayers, deferred action recipients will pay into these systems and receive the same benefits on these issues as other taxpayers."
(It's worth pointing out that all taxpayers have to work for at least a decade to receive benefits.)
Vargas added that immigrants protected under Obama's plan will not receive other federal benefits such as welfare, food stamps, Medicaid or benefits under the Affordable Care Act.
Under Executive Action Immigrants Are Entitled To Social Security Benefits The Two-Way NPR
Step 1 is within the purview of the president's prosecutorial discretion.
Step 2 is a violation of the separation of powers. The president does not have the authority to create benefits for illegal immigrants. Nor does he have the authority to authorize work permits for illegal immigrants. In fact, that is in direct violation of current immigration law. In short, he attempted to write a new law, AND he attempted to negate a current law. The courts will, most assuredly, find both actions unconstitutional.
He is betting that Republicans will rise up against it before it gets to court - then, he can claim that they were anti-immigration, without having to actually implement the law.
However, he got thrown a curve this week when the Congress only funded HLS for 3 months, effectively allowing the Republican Congress to move quickly on funding his EA. The Republicans, not wanting to appear anti-immigration, will not create a new law to countermand the EO. They may pass a law that specifically prohibits illegal immigrants from receiving all the benefits. But, I don't think they will do that. Instead, I think they will block funding until the courts decide. It will be clean - it will be decisive - and it will be crushing. Obama will be faced with accepting partial funding for HLS - or closing it down completely.
Yep, with a 2/3 vote of both the House and Senate Republicans can pass legislation to nullifies it and overrides a presidential veto. However, since Republicans have only 56% of the House and 54% of the Senate, there is almost no chance of it happening.Executive Orders and Presidential Memorandums carry the wait of law but they are not laws. Executive Actions are orders that are within the scope of existing law. Unlike laws congress passes, these actions by the president are temporary and last only as long as the president is in office. They are not laws nor are they changes to the law.Jake, when have YOU been able to provide any data? Seriously. "Information from the board" may be all you can say if you can't even defend your own position.
Shakles, I have read all of the information available. You have not. You can't compete.
The EO can't be shaken in court. Watch as your arguments are dismissed.
I figure from the evidence to the conclusions; you begin with a conclusion and then fit evidence to it. The EO is an EO. It is what it is.
That's why you always fail.
Why don't you present YOUR evidence on why you think Obama's executive order still respects those immigrants who came here legally and would treat ALL immigrants the same under this provision. Why do you think it should still stand, and where it specifically states in the Constitution that this President has the executive authority to simply change laws that he doesn't agree with? Really Jake, anyone can make a small comment over what someone else said without backing it up.
I do respect Care4all for her input in presenting an interesting argument regarding the reason for the need to address the issue, and is one of among a few here willing to have a real discussion about it through an opposing view.
Every law enforcement agency, including the agencies that enforce immigration laws, has “prosecutorial discretion” — the power to decide whom to investigate, arrest, detain, charge, and prosecute. Homeland Security can legally prioritize and delay prosecution and deportation. Immigration laws gives the administration wide latitude in granting work permits.
Executive Orders and Executive Actions can be reversed by Congress.
Which copies the EO. Next.they already have AMNESTYThe Republicans in congress ARE going to give them amnesty so they can garner the Hispanic vote.... the writing is on the wall.... I read a Briebart article yesterday on it, which pretty much showed how congressional leadership has set it up, to be so...The Democrats first lost the House. Then in the next midterm election the Senate, with the Republicans gained the second largest House majority in our nation's history. This looks more like a desperate plea by this President to try and use whatever means he can, to get another voting block to support putting his party back into power.
true story
Republicans are gonna give them an offer to pay taxes like the rest of the people that work in this country.
Link?3) The president would then veto the law overriding the order, and because republicans lack the votes to override that veto, the EO would remain in effect.Yep, with a 2/3 vote of both the House and Senate Republicans can pass legislation to nullifies it and overrides a presidential veto. However, since Republicans have only 56% of the House and 54% of the Senate, there is almost no chance of it happening.Executive Orders and Executive Actions can be reversed by Congress.
Sorry --- you missed on this one.
1) A 2/3 vote in both houses is required to override a VETO.
2) Congress can override an executive order, or executive action, simply by passing a law that conflicts with it. In this case, for example, Congress can pass a law that says the President may not grant immigration rights or benefits to illegal immigrants. That would certainly be feasible in the current Congressional structure.
And your example isn't applicable in this case, as the EO neither 'grants immigration rights' nor does it afford 'benefits' to those undocumented.
Not true ... the EO is cancelled by the passage of the law ... even though the President COULD re-invoke the EO (effectively a new one)
First of all, Obama is playing word games with you --- he did NOT publish an Executive Order --- he published an Executive Action ---
His Executive Action had two primary parts:
1) A direction to HLS to not deport illegal immigrants unless they have committed a criminal act (Not in their home country, but in ours --- theoretically, a mass murderer from Guatemala could stay here - of course, that would never happen - but the structure of the EA allows it to happen)
2) The executive action granted certain privileges to illegal immigrants - i.e., Social Security, welfare benefits, Obamacare, etc. To prove that:
During a briefing earlier this week, White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest said it was his understanding that if immigrants paid taxes, they would be eligible for Social Security and Medicare. Earnest said:
"The goal of the executive — one of the goals of the executive action program or executive action that the President announced, as it relates to immigration, about 10 days ago, was related to bringing those individuals who have been in this country for some time out of the shadows, giving them a work permit ... and under the books, and giving them a Social Security number and making them taxpayers. And that does mean that they're going to be filing their taxes on a regular basis and that does mean that if they qualify for the child tax credit, for example, as a taxpayer that would be something that they would benefit from. But we released this study from the Council of Economic Advisers who talked about the significant economic benefits for the country associated with bringing these individuals out of the shadows so they're not getting paid in cash under the table but actually sort of part of the broader economy."
Katherine Vargas, a White House spokeswoman, told us in an email that once immigrants register under deferred action, they become taxpayers, contributing their "fair share into Social Security and Medicare."
"And only after they've paid taxes for over a decade will they become eligible for Social Security," Vargas wrote. "As taxpayers, deferred action recipients will pay into these systems and receive the same benefits on these issues as other taxpayers."
(It's worth pointing out that all taxpayers have to work for at least a decade to receive benefits.)
Vargas added that immigrants protected under Obama's plan will not receive other federal benefits such as welfare, food stamps, Medicaid or benefits under the Affordable Care Act.
Under Executive Action Immigrants Are Entitled To Social Security Benefits The Two-Way NPR
Step 1 is within the purview of the president's prosecutorial discretion.
Step 2 is a violation of the separation of powers. The president does not have the authority to create benefits for illegal immigrants. Nor does he have the authority to authorize work permits for illegal immigrants. In fact, that is in direct violation of current immigration law. In short, he attempted to write a new law, AND he attempted to negate a current law. The courts will, most assuredly, find both actions unconstitutional.
He is betting that Republicans will rise up against it before it gets to court - then, he can claim that they were anti-immigration, without having to actually implement the law.
However, he got thrown a curve this week when the Congress only funded HLS for 3 months, effectively allowing the Republican Congress to move quickly on funding his EA. The Republicans, not wanting to appear anti-immigration, will not create a new law to countermand the EO. They may pass a law that specifically prohibits illegal immigrants from receiving all the benefits. But, I don't think they will do that. Instead, I think they will block funding until the courts decide. It will be clean - it will be decisive - and it will be crushing. Obama will be faced with accepting partial funding for HLS - or closing it down completely.
moron...Which copies the EO. Next.they already have AMNESTYThe Republicans in congress ARE going to give them amnesty so they can garner the Hispanic vote.... the writing is on the wall.... I read a Briebart article yesterday on it, which pretty much showed how congressional leadership has set it up, to be so...The Democrats first lost the House. Then in the next midterm election the Senate, with the Republicans gained the second largest House majority in our nation's history. This looks more like a desperate plea by this President to try and use whatever means he can, to get another voting block to support putting his party back into power.
true story
Republicans are gonna give them an offer to pay taxes like the rest of the people that work in this country.
The problem is republicans are attempting to govern by opinion polls, they see almost half are opposed to the president's EO and incorrectly infer that the voters want republicans to fight with Obama over this, when in fact that's the last thing voters want done, they want Congress to enact meaningful immigration reform:
“Nearly six in 10 Americans support creating a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants living in the U.S[.]”
http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/20/politics/immigration-obama-executive-action-poll/index.html
An exit poll conducting by Kellyanne Conway's The Polling Company found that three-quarters (74%) of voters believed that "President Obama should work with Congress rather than around Congress on immigration and separately."
Overall, strong "majorities of men (75%), women (74%), whites (79%), blacks (59%), and Hispanics (54%)," in addition to tri-partisan majorities of "self-identified Republicans (92%), Independents (80%), and Democrats (51%)" did not want Obama to enact an executive amnesty on his own. Only 20% of voters wanted Obama to move forward with his executive amnesty.
Midterm Exit Polls 75 Reject Exec Amnesty 80 Don t Want Foreign Workers Taking Jobs from Americans
Because we have prison capacity, federal, state, and county prisons of 2,266,000 and we are busting at the seams.... there is no space for the 11 million.The EO is to force Congress to act.
I am sure the Dems want Congress to act "poorly."
Why doesn't he just round them up and put them in prison? That would also force them to act.
Besides, I don't want to have to pay the $45k a year for each person imprisoned, and you don't either I would bet.
Shut up, Shakles, with worthless false comparison fallacies.
Pass some sort of legislation that Obama can sign.
We are not going to mass deport the illegals.
