States Blocking Obamacare

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    "In more than a dozen statehouses across the country, a small but growing group of lawmakers is pressing for state constitutional amendments that would outlaw a crucial element of the health care plans under discussion in Washington: the requirement that nearly everyone buy insurance or pay a penalty."

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/29/us/29states.html?_r=2

    And according to my local paper (They did not quote a source) "35 states have filed or proposed amendments to their state constitutions or statutes rejecting health insurance mandates."

    Looks to me like the people are speaking louder than ever.
     
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    Correction: states don't do anything. The lawmakers do. No significant groundswell exists at all for what Ollie suggests. This is a movement by a very small, very weak agenda-driven group of activists. None of the efforts will succeed because the votes are not there.

    This approach was debated in our state, and we decided against it as a tactic that would expose our legislative weakness.
     
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    Got it, you are still backing Obama and Obamacare.

    But All I am doing is reporting what I read and posted the one article I found about it on line. Don't know or care what state you are from and what you think you did. But if 35 states have some movement then there is obviously some movement.
     
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    You are not strong on critical thinking skills, and I will leave it at that.

    What you have is a very small coordinate effort to make itself seem much larger and the voice of the people. It's not and it's not.
     
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    Obamacare? Never heard of it. It's called universal health care.
     
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    Please do some more reading, Obama and his minions dropped that term months ago.
     
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    It's called socialized medicine.

    Good thing I don't expect semantic honesty from Fabian socialists anymore, though.
     
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    If there is movement in State Governments to block it then I say it's a good thing. We do not need socialized medicine.
     
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    What we need is less coverage is less insurance benefits! I don't care if they paid 200 dollars a day for their whole lives, it was a pre-existing condition damn it!:lol:
     
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    Is that so then obviously you have not been to Arizona then.

    PHOENIX, Arizona (June 22, 2009) — The Arizona Legislature today passed a bill that refers the Health Care Freedom Act (H.C.R. 2014) to the November 2010 ballot.

    The Health Care Freedom Act will ensure Arizona residents may pay directly for any legal health services and choose not to participate in a government or privately run health care system.

    “Protecting the rights of individuals to be in control of their health and health care must be a fundamental component of health care reform, so the Arizona legislature is to be congratulated for giving all Arizonans the opportunity to make certain our voices are heard,” said Dr. Eric Novack, Chairman, Arizonans for Health Care Freedom.

    The bill, sponsored by Rep. Nancy Barto, will be placed on the ballot as a referendum.

    The Healthcare Freedom Bill provides for two fundamental rights:

    1. The right to spend your own money to seek out and receive health care services that are otherwise legal.
    2. The right to choose NOT to participate in any health care system, of any type.
     

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