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    I work hard at NOT filling my noggin with presidential politics. Even when the nominating conventions are behind us I will have little, or no, interest in the Republican nominee —— less so in the Democrat. Next year the Republican convention is scheduled to begin on July 18, 2016; Democrats the week of July 25, 2016. That is 18 months from now. Long enough for a corpse to plead for relief.

    The only pastime pleasure establishment Republicans offer me by their ilk jockeying for position between now and the conventions is watching media choices burn and crash. Mercifully, Mitt Romney flamed out early. I do not have to read headlines when the same thing happens to Jeb Bush, Chris Christie, Marco Rubio, and most of the other acceptable candidates the media embraces like clockwork. My attention span begins and ends with those few conservatives who have a chance to spit in media eyes.

    I must admit that I am somewhat disappointed that Mike Lee chose not to run.


    Des Moines would have been the perfect place for Lee to launch a dark-horse candidacy. But the 43-year-old Republican cleared things up from the get-go. “My name is Mike Lee. I’m from Utah. And I’m not running for president,” he said, by way of introduction. “I’m probably the only person up here today who can say that.”​

    Lee’s name alone would send Karl Rove’s Republicans, and Democrats alike, charging into battle like Kamikaze pilots.

    The praise for Lee isn’t universal, and critics come chiefly from two camps. The first is the GOP establishment in Utah, which hasn’t entirely gotten over his defeat of Bennett. Senior Utah senator Orrin Hatch maintains cordial relations with Lee publicly, but the two aren’t particularly close. One rumor in Utah is that Lee was advocating behind the scenes to find a primary challenger to Hatch in 2012, but a credible opponent never arose. Other Utah Republicans are seeking a primary challenger to Lee when he’s up for reelection in 2016. A December article in Politico quoted Jon Huntsman Sr., the father of the former governor and a GOP power player in Utah, calling Lee an “extremist” with “extremely radical” positions.

    “All I can say is Mike Lee is an embarrassment to the state of Utah,” Huntsman Sr. told Politico. “He’s been a tremendous embarrassment to our family, to our state, to our country to have him as a U.S. senator.”​

    NOTE: Orrin Hatch managed to hang on in a cakewalk, while another longtime RINO senator, Richard Lugar, bit the dust.

    Mike Lee not running does give Tea Party conservative one bright star shining in their sky; a Cruz-Lee ticket. Think about that one for the next 18 months:


    To his fellow Republican senators, Lee is seen as more of a pest, particularly since the arrival in 2013 of Texas senator Ted Cruz. Cruz and Lee have been allied on some of the biggest tests of conservative principle, all of which seem to end up being big tactical mistakes and even bigger headaches for Mitch McConnell, now the majority leader. The 2013 government shutdown over defunding Obamacare was hatched by Cruz and Lee. In a Senate Conservatives Fund TV ad that aired frequently in the run-up to the shutdown, Lee said, “Republicans in Congress can stop Obamacare if they simply refuse to fund it.” They couldn’t, and they didn’t.

    The Non-Candidate
    Utah’s Mike Lee is the most important Republican not running for president
    Feb 9, 2015, Vol. 20, No. 21 • By MICHAEL WARREN

    The Non-Candidate The Weekly Standard
     
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    Orrin Hatch-et job is at again:

    Last week, senior GOP supplicant Sen. Orrin Hatch announced that he will support the confirmation of President Obama’s attorney general nominee, Loretta Lynch. He praised her “qualifications” and decried the Justice Department’s previous leaders who “have facilitated executive abuses by this president rather than upholding the rule of law.”

    Guffaw. A Utah Republican, Hatch was one of the biggest, fattest facilitators of that lawlessness from the first days of the reign of Obama. Beltway amnesia among entrenched incumbents is a chronic disorder.

    “I like Barack Obama and want to help him if I can,” Hatch declared in January 2009, just weeks before the Senate voted on President Obama’s attorney general nominee, career corruptocrat Eric Holder.

    The GOP’s Orrin Hatch problem
    Michelle Malkin | Wednesday Feb 4, 2015 6:00 AM

    The GOP s Orrin Hatch problem Human Events

    Here is the best part. Hatch, not Bubba, is guilty for the justice who admittedly has no use for the US Constitution:

    . . . let’s also not forget the historical context. In 1993, then-President Clinton reached out to Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah), a leading senator on the Judiciary Committee, even though Republicans were in the minority. Clinton solicited suggested nominees for a Supreme Court vacancy, and Hatch recommended Ginsburg. Clinton agreed and Ginsburg sailed through.

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    In 2011, if President Obama even considered the former director of the ACLU’s Women’s Rights Project for a Supreme Court vacancy, Republicans would be apoplectic and many Senate Democrats would likely balk, fearing voter backlash.

    August 30, 2011 4:45 PM
    It’s amazing Ginsburg is even on the bench
    By Steve Benen

    It 8217 s amazing Ginsburg is even on the bench Political Animal The Washington Monthly
     
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    How's v-e-e-p an abbreviation for Vice-President? :) Shouldn't it be 'vepe?'
     
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    To Delta4Embassy: Where did you get ‘vepe’? Veep is one of the few slang words newspaper editors accepted for decades:

    veep (noun)
    Slang.
    A vice president.

    [Pronunciation of V.P., abbr. of vice president.]​

     
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    I understand it's the accepted form, just saying the accepted form doesn't make any logical sense. The words Vice-President would make any contraction or abbreviated form 'vepe' not 'veep.'
     
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    Yo, enjoy! believe2016.jpg
     
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    Mike Lee has it right:

    Sen. Mike Lee helped open up CPAC 2015, taking the stage before 9 AM on the first full day of the conference, to tell the assembled crowd of conservative activists to support potential presidential candidates who have positive, specific messages, and to beware of those who speak in platitudes.

    "Specificity is crucial," Sen. Lee said. "It's essential. Abstractions are the province of candidates who say one thing on the campaign trail and do quite another in office."

    Lee said that a winning conservative candidate should be "principled, positive, and proven."

    Mike Lee at CPAC: Beware Of Conservatives of "Platitudes"
    Kevin Glass | Feb 26, 2015

    Mike Lee at CPAC Beware Of Conservatives of Platitudes - Kevin Glass

    The sad part is that establishment Republicans are "principled, positive, and proven." in all of the wrong things, or they carefully avoid saying anything that might upset the media. The media has been playing the same game since television dominated the nominating process —— the Republican must be an acceptable replacement for the Democrat. Ronald Reagan was the exception. The media is not going to let that happen a second time.
     
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    Three wannabes down and counting —— Jeb Bush, Chris Christie, and Marco Rubio are toast. Rubio is afflicted with Mitt Romney syndrome; he did it but he’s sorry now:

    Marco Rubio: Marco Rubio co-authored a bill that would have given amnesty to illegal aliens. He has since tried to walk back from that, saying:

    ... that he’s learned he was wrong on his approach to immigration reform.

    Rubio, a onetime Tea Party favorite whose support for a comprehensive immigration reform package hurt him with the base, told the conservative crowd that he now understands U.S. borders must be secured before anything else can be done. what I’ve learned is you can’t even have a conversation about that until people believe and know, not just believe but it’s proven to them that future illegal immigration will be controlled.

    And if you believe that, I have a taco truck in Juárez I'd like to sell you. I think it's pretty clear that he still supports amnesty, but now he promises not to talk about it until he's elected.​

    NOTE: Rubio must be a slow learner because John McCain went down in flames when he tried to sell securing the border and nothing else.

    If you wait long enough amnesty for illegal immigration will do in them all. All except Ted Cruz:

    Ted Cruz: Ted Cruz is the only major candidate who has never supported or endorsed amnesty.

    End Obama's illegal amnesty via Congress' checks & balances. (Nov 2014)
    Defund amnesty, and refuse any nominees until rescinded. (Nov 2014)
    No path to citizenship for 1.65 million illegals in Texas. (Oct 2012)
    Give police more power to ask about immigration status. (Jun 2012)
    Boots on the ground, plus a wall. (Apr 2012)
    Triple the size of the Border Patrol. (Mar 2012)
    Strengthen border security and increase enforcement. (Jul 2011)

    March 1, 2015
    Which Republican presidential candidates support amnesty?
    By Pedro Gonzales

    Blog Which Republican presidential candidates support amnesty
     
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    Orrin Hatch is consistent if nothing else:

    WASHINGTON – Loretta Lynch’s bid to become the next attorney general appears to be in big trouble, as a well-placed source on Capitol Hill told WND there are now rumblings that even some Democratic Party senators may oppose her nomination.

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    Just four GOP senators are now prepared to vote in favor of confirming Lynch: Orrin Hatch, R-Utah; Jeff Flake, R-Ariz.; Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.; and Susan Collins, R-Maine.

    Tide turns against Obama's Loretta Lynch
    Posted By Garth Kant On 03/16/2015 @ 5:05 pm

    Tide turns against Obama s Loretta Lynch

    At least conservatives are learning which senators have to be culled. Hatch will be there another four years. Conservatives are stuck with Susan Collins for six years!

    NOTE: Repealing the XVII Amendment to end the tyranny of long-serving senators works wonders on Democrats as well as Republicans.

    NOTE: The very best senators can still serve time after time by being sent to the Senate by their state legislatures.
     
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