Stand whose ground? Senator Obama vs. President Obama

Trajan

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so;:eusa_think: was he evolving before he told us he was evolving or had evolved?Or did he meander around in some Mercury style retrograde motion? ....oooorrrr, due to some messianic quirk/quark re-aligning itself in the universe, he evolved spontaneously sorta like Spinals Taps spontaneous human combustion (SHC) :rolleyes:


Just another brick in the Hadrian's Wall of hypocrisy that will stretch well beyond any previous WH tenet's boundary..........




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In his remarks last Friday on George Zimmerman's acquittal, the President said it would be wise to "examine" state and local laws governing the use of firearms in self-defense. He suggested that "stand your ground" provisions are "sending a message" that "someone who is armed potentially has the right to use those firearms even if there's a way for them to exit from a situation." He asked: "Is that really going to be contributing to the kind of peace and security and order that we'd like to see?"

It turns out that Mr. Obama participated in such an examination almost a decade ago and emerged as a stand-your-ground proponent. Illinois Review, a conservative blog, recently unearthed Illinois Senate records showing that then-state Senator Obama voted for and even co-sponsored a 2004 bill that expanded the protection of the state's 1961 stand-your-ground law to include immunity from civil liability for people who use deadly force to defend themselves or their property. The bill wasn't controversial in the liberal legislature, passing the Senate without dissent and the state House with only two nays before then-Governor Rod Blagojevich, also a Democrat, signed it.


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Review & Outlook: Stand Whose Ground? - WSJ.com
 
History will prove this idiot the most incompetent counter-productive POTUS SCROTUS evah.

Obama is always steps ahead of you fools. He is the smartest president and Michele the smartest first lady ever. :eusa_hand:
You cannot touch him or Holder.:eusa_whistle:
If any of you little peons think otherwise it just shows how incredible stupid you are.:doubt:
 
Trajan's post clearly reveals why BHO continues to stride over libertarians and far right reactionaries as if he were a giant and they mere mice at his feet.
 
History will prove this idiot the most incompetent counter-productive POTUS SCROTUS evah.

Obama is always steps ahead of you fools. He is the smartest president and Michele the smartest first lady ever. :eusa_hand:
You cannot touch him or Holder.:eusa_whistle:
If any of you little peons think otherwise it just shows how incredible stupid you are.:doubt:

That's MISTER fool peon to you, bitch. :cool:

You are incredibly blind and naïve. Or senile.
 
Obama and hypocrisy are to each other as hand is to glove:


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Trajan's post clearly reveals why BHO continues to stride over libertarians and far right reactionaries as if he were a giant and they mere mice at his feet.

You are so right Jake, this is proof of how Obama always wins the debates with libertarians, just like he did when he pushed for gun control after Sandy Hook, he jumps on bandwagons that are going the wrong way. You both should keep up the good work.
 
QWB, you folks with your faux rage, hatred, and racism paved the way for the re-election of BHO.
 
QWB, you folks with your faux rage, hatred, and racism paved the way for the re-election of BHO.

Obama was outraged by Sandy Hook and Zimmerman, not me.

What are you babbling about? Guns? People have a moral and legitimate right to be concerned about guns and society.

and sycophants like you will suck his knee caps every time he evolves.....true story;)

I am sorry if obama's flip flops are inconvenient for you, maybe if you had a shred of intellectual honesty, you'd stumble upon some integrity....
 
Obama was outraged by Sandy Hook and Zimmerman, not me.

What are you babbling about? Guns? People have a moral and legitimate right to be concerned about guns and society.

and sycophants like you will suck his knee caps every time he evolves.....true story;)

I am sorry of obama's flip flops are inconvenient for you, maybe if you had a shred of intellectual honesty, you'd stumble upon some integrity....

You are babbling.
 
so;:eusa_think: was he evolving before he told us he was evolving or had evolved?Or did he meander around in some Mercury style retrograde motion? ....oooorrrr, due to some messianic quirk/quark re-aligning itself in the universe, he evolved spontaneously sorta like Spinals Taps spontaneous human combustion (SHC) :rolleyes:


Just another brick in the Hadrian's Wall of hypocrisy that will stretch well beyond any previous WH tenet's boundary..........




snip-

In his remarks last Friday on George Zimmerman's acquittal, the President said it would be wise to "examine" state and local laws governing the use of firearms in self-defense. He suggested that "stand your ground" provisions are "sending a message" that "someone who is armed potentially has the right to use those firearms even if there's a way for them to exit from a situation." He asked: "Is that really going to be contributing to the kind of peace and security and order that we'd like to see?"

It turns out that Mr. Obama participated in such an examination almost a decade ago and emerged as a stand-your-ground proponent. Illinois Review, a conservative blog, recently unearthed Illinois Senate records showing that then-state Senator Obama voted for and even co-sponsored a 2004 bill that expanded the protection of the state's 1961 stand-your-ground law to include immunity from civil liability for people who use deadly force to defend themselves or their property. The bill wasn't controversial in the liberal legislature, passing the Senate without dissent and the state House with only two nays before then-Governor Rod Blagojevich, also a Democrat, signed it.


more at-

Review & Outlook: Stand Whose Ground? - WSJ.com


Proof positive that they will be no "converstations" about race relations nor any change in state self defense laws. All lip service but good enough to make the flock happy.
 
Many members of the American public have rethought their opinion on stand your ground laws before and after the GZ/TM tragedy, not just Obama. It is shocking how the law allowed a man to profile, pursue, and shoot a young man innocent of wrongdoing and call it self-defense. When a law intended to stop murders ends up legitimizing them instead, it's time to question it.
 
Many members of the American public have rethought their opinion on stand your ground laws before and after the GZ/TM tragedy, not just Obama. It is shocking how the law allowed a man to profile, pursue, and shoot a young man innocent of wrongdoing and call it self-defense. When a law intended to stop murders ends up legitimizing them instead, it's time to question it.

The shock is that idiots like you think people should have to give up the streets to criminals.
 

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