Stabbings, Slashings on the Rise in Gun Control Haven, New York City

[Crepitus]

Instantly fatal is actually a misnomer. If your Medulla Oblongata is taken out. You are dead. Yes, you might be “alive” if you get CPR and put on a ventilator and pacemaker fast enough. But you are dead. Your body just doesn’t know it yet.

If you are hit in the heart. Your body may survive a few minutes. But again, it isn’t a question if you will die, but when the Doctor will call it. The only way you could survive is if you were shot in the treatment room of a world class Trauma Care facility.

As you must know, if you have seen it. Unlike Hollywood the heart doesn’t go flat line no motion when it stops. There is minor electrical twitching. But that doesn’t make the person alive. Random electrical impulses in the nerves continues for a while. Hell hair and fingernails continue growing for a long time after death.

As Gabby Giffords showed, a head shot is not a guaranteed death. But those cases are the exception, not the rule. If you were shooting to save your life you would be well advised to put your shot in the head or heart.

My personal carry weapon is the .357 Magnum. A small revolver with a mere five shots. The rounds are very effective. They have an excellent reputation backed up by statistical data. But that weapon isn’t a magic wand. And when I pull the trigger it doesn’t send out the killing curse from Harry Potter. So bullet placement is vital.

That was the point of my post. Sometimes the person is conscious and coherent. Sometimes conscious and incoherent. Sometimes unconscious and stable. And sometimes they are dead before the medics can open the bag to begin the assessment.

If the victim manages to survive the first hour, their odds of overall survival go up. But medicine like everything else in life, nothing is guaranteed. So you strive to increase your chances, to give yourself the highest probability possible.

Unsurvivable and instantly fatal are two different things.

 

[rampart]

We see again that gun control, which is typically directed at stripping away the rights of lawful gun owners, does not stop criminals. As with so many Dem / Socialist Hell holes, their anti-gun legislation is directed at people who overwhelmingly, are responsible citizens. We see Dems / Socialists failing simple logic tests time after time. While their ultimate goal is to disarm the population, they choose not to prosecute entire classes of crimes.

Referenced in the linked article is an interesting fact:
“It is worth mentioning that the rate of gun violence has dropped in the Big Apple even after it became easier for New Yorkers to purchase and carry firearms”

It appears to me that the underlying problem is an ideological failing of the Dems / Socialists. They create lawless societies by way of retrograde notions that criminals are an aggrieved, oppressed class and that “equity” requires their crimes are borne by the public.

Stabbings, Slashings on the Rise in Gun Control Haven, New York City

redstate.com

New York City, a bastion of gun control, has reportedly been experiencing a sharp rise in stabbings and slashings over the past four years. Despite having some of the strictest gun control laws, the city remains quite dangerous for many residents.

Stabbings and slashings are surging this year across New York City – skyrocketing 26% since 2019, according to disturbing new NYPD data obtained by The Post.

Since Jan. 1 through Aug. 13, the city has seen 3,365 nonfatal stabbings, compared to 2,666 four years ago. The number is also up 5% from the same period last year, which saw 3,208 nonfatal incidents of knife violence.

So far this year, 53 people have died by blade — a shocking 29% increase from 41 in 2019. The tally is down 23% from 2022, which saw 69 people killed by knives.

that seems to prove that ny gun control is working. there are no semi automatic knives, their range is limited and a younger me might have taken it from him and shaved his head with it.

 

[marvin martian]

We see again that gun control, which is typically directed at stripping away the rights of lawful gun owners, does not stop criminals. As with so many Dem / Socialist Hell holes, their anti-gun legislation is directed at people who overwhelmingly, are responsible citizens. We see Dems / Socialists failing simple logic tests time after time. While their ultimate goal is to disarm the population, they choose not to prosecute entire classes of crimes.

Referenced in the linked article is an interesting fact:
“It is worth mentioning that the rate of gun violence has dropped in the Big Apple even after it became easier for New Yorkers to purchase and carry firearms”

It appears to me that the underlying problem is an ideological failing of the Dems / Socialists. They create lawless societies by way of retrograde notions that criminals are an aggrieved, oppressed class and that “equity” requires their crimes are borne by the public.

Stabbings, Slashings on the Rise in Gun Control Haven, New York City

redstate.com

New York City, a bastion of gun control, has reportedly been experiencing a sharp rise in stabbings and slashings over the past four years. Despite having some of the strictest gun control laws, the city remains quite dangerous for many residents.

Stabbings and slashings are surging this year across New York City – skyrocketing 26% since 2019, according to disturbing new NYPD data obtained by The Post.

Since Jan. 1 through Aug. 13, the city has seen 3,365 nonfatal stabbings, compared to 2,666 four years ago. The number is also up 5% from the same period last year, which saw 3,208 nonfatal incidents of knife violence.

So far this year, 53 people have died by blade — a shocking 29% increase from 41 in 2019. The tally is down 23% from 2022, which saw 69 people killed by knives.

Good news. I hope all the victims voted for Eric Adams, Kathy Hochul, and Joe Biden.

This is what they wanted.

 

[LuckyDuck]

We see again that gun control, which is typically directed at stripping away the rights of lawful gun owners, does not stop criminals. As with so many Dem / Socialist Hell holes, their anti-gun legislation is directed at people who overwhelmingly, are responsible citizens. We see Dems / Socialists failing simple logic tests time after time. While their ultimate goal is to disarm the population, they choose not to prosecute entire classes of crimes.

Referenced in the linked article is an interesting fact:
“It is worth mentioning that the rate of gun violence has dropped in the Big Apple even after it became easier for New Yorkers to purchase and carry firearms”

It appears to me that the underlying problem is an ideological failing of the Dems / Socialists. They create lawless societies by way of retrograde notions that criminals are an aggrieved, oppressed class and that “equity” requires their crimes are borne by the public.

Stabbings, Slashings on the Rise in Gun Control Haven, New York City

redstate.com

New York City, a bastion of gun control, has reportedly been experiencing a sharp rise in stabbings and slashings over the past four years. Despite having some of the strictest gun control laws, the city remains quite dangerous for many residents.

Stabbings and slashings are surging this year across New York City – skyrocketing 26% since 2019, according to disturbing new NYPD data obtained by The Post.

Since Jan. 1 through Aug. 13, the city has seen 3,365 nonfatal stabbings, compared to 2,666 four years ago. The number is also up 5% from the same period last year, which saw 3,208 nonfatal incidents of knife violence.

So far this year, 53 people have died by blade — a shocking 29% increase from 41 in 2019. The tally is down 23% from 2022, which saw 69 people killed by knives.

The actual purpose of the Marxist Democrat Party in the push to disarm its citizenry, is to ensure no armed rebellion when they toss out the Constitution and its Bill of Rights and institute Marxism.
As for the rise in stabbing increases, Britain has just banned machetes, swords and other edged potential weapons, because of a rise in stabbings. However, by doing so, they ignore the more deadly edged weapons that are responsible for the vast majority of stabbings, the kitchen knife.
No matter what law you implement to stop violence and resulting deaths, the instruments just change to meet the need. If there were no sharp instruments to use, hammers, screwdrivers, bats, tire irons, et cetera would replace them as weapons.

 

[AZrailwhale]

They are released on bail. They still have trials and consequences for their actions. It isn’t like the City just cuts the guy loose forever. The wheels of Justice grind slowly and the baddie is eventually either found guilty or not guilty and if Guilty sent off to New York’s infamous Prisons.

And while the criminal is on the streets awaiting trial, he continues to commit crimes. Plus without cash bail, criminals have zero incentive to show up for their trials. At least with bail, the bondsman makes sure the criminal shows up so the bondsman doesn't lose his money.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Yeah...and when people get shot they go flying across the room...

Movies ignore the laws of physics. If a bullet had the power to knock a person off his feet, firing it would knock the shooter off his feet as well.

 

[LuckyDuck]

The Marxist Democrat Party wants the violent criminals back on out on the streets to commit more violence with firearms, to further their goal of turning people against owning firearms, even though the vast, vast majority of firearms owners aren't committing crimes with them.
Once they get the firearms out of the hands of all citizens, they can then get rid of the Constitution and its Bill of Rights and the public can only protest but not actually rise up against the armed government.

 

[SavannahMann]

Movies ignore the laws of physics. If a bullet had the power to knock a person off his feet, firing it would knock the shooter off his feet as well.

Thank you. I have spent more time explaining that to people than you can believe. Newton’s third law of motion applies. But the idiots only have Hollywood to show them and there a .38 special is powerful enough to blow a guy through a brick wall.

 

[SavannahMann]

The Marxist Democrat Party wants the violent criminals back on out on the streets to commit more violence with firearms, to further their goal of turning people against owning firearms, even though the vast, vast majority of firearms owners aren't committing crimes with them.
Once they get the firearms out of the hands of all citizens, they can then get rid of the Constitution and its Bill of Rights and the public can only protest but not actually rise up against the armed government.

Right. Overthrow the Government.

 

[Batcat]

Here in Florida if somebody tried to knife me I would shoot them with my Sig 365XL.

I can because we have a great stand your ground law and the state respects my Constitutional right to keep and bear arms.

New York? I would be dead.

Be aware of how deadly a knife can be in the hands of someone who knows how to use it. Plus the knife fighter has a significant advantage if he is close to you.

 

[Flash]

I have a scar on my right hand from being stabbed with a bayonet on the end of an AK.

That was not a knife but I got a great appreciation for the danger of edged weapons.

 

[LuckyDuck]

I'll take getting slashed with a knife over getting half my body blown away by an AR-15 any day.

Another poor fool who has no clue as to how much damage an AR-15 can do to the body. That idiot Joy Behar was another ignorant fool who in her case, claimed that shooting a deer with an AR-15, demolishes it.
Hunters have been killing deers for decades with far more powerful hunting rifles, often the .308. None are being "demolished" and are very much still edible.
No rifle will "blow half your body away" and you have to hit a person, deer, bear, et cetera in a "vital" area.
Knife attack by a single person killed 19 people and injured 26.
Person with a truck deliberately killed 87 people and injured close to 400.
Person committing arson killed over 80 people in one setting.
If I had to die violently, I'd pick a bullet to the brain by someone, over being gutted with a knife.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Another poor fool who has no clue as to how much damage an AR-15 can do to the body. That idiot Joy Behar was another ignorant fool who in her case, claimed that shooting a deer with an AR-15, demolishes it.
Hunters have been killing deers for decades with far more powerful hunting rifles, often the .308. None are being "demolished" and are very much still edible.
No rifle will "blow half your body away" and you have to hit a person, deer, bear, et cetera in a "vital" area.
Knife attack by a single person killed 19 people and injured 26.
Person with a truck deliberately killed 87 people and injured close to 400.
Person committing arson killed over 80 people in one setting.
If I had to die violently, I'd pick a bullet to the brain by someone, over being gutted with a knife.

People who say that have only seen knife fights in the movies where the hero kills the bad guy with one slash. In reality, knife fights end by one participant bleeding out from multiple slashes. As they told me in the Army, the "winner" of a knife fight is the one who bleeds to death last.

 

[Jarlaxle]

A Bowie knife?

Many of the new arrivals with facial tattoos favor machetes.

Movies ignore the laws of physics. If a bullet had the power to knock a person off his feet, firing it would knock the shooter off his feet as well.

Mostly, correct. However, a few bullets ABSOLUTELY DO have the ability to do that. If you fire them standing, you WILL wind up on your ass. I have fired one...it shoots a slug larger than an AA battery at >2000fps.

 

[2aguy]

I'll take getting slashed with a knife over getting half my body blown away by an AR-15 any day.

Hey, dipshit, the 5.56 round doesnt do that, not even close. Most states dont allow you to use it on deer and soldiers have been bitching about how weak a round it is since it was made standard issue.

 

[2aguy]

Perhaps NY got their crime down, and are now seeing an increase, but are still much lower than a lot of cities. Increases don't mean the overall rate is high.

They lowered it by arresting actual criminals....i posted about that in another thread.

 

[2aguy]

I'll take getting slashed with a knife over getting half my body blown away by an AR-15 any day.

Yeah, knives kill more people every single year than AR-15 rifles.....

 

[2aguy]

that seems to prove that ny gun control is working. there are no semi automatic knives, their range is limited and a younger me might have taken it from him and shaved his head with it.

Gun control isnt working, New York simply decided to actually arrest criminals in large numbers and that is how you lower the crime rate.

 

[2aguy]

that seems to prove that ny gun control is working. there are no semi automatic knives, their range is limited and a younger me might have taken it from him and shaved his head with it.

More Americans now own and carry guns and the murder rate went down....

That means that normal people owning guns does not increase the gun crime or gun murder rate...

New York lowered their gun murder rate because they started arresting criminals

 

[2aguy]

Perhaps NY got their crime down, and are now seeing an increase, but are still much lower than a lot of cities. Increases don't mean the overall rate is high.

They lowered the crime rate using Rudy Gullianis broken window policy.......and they started doing stop and frisks again.....

Last year, the department announced an initiative designed to enforce what they called quality-of-life crimes, focusing on things like public drinking, urination and disorderly groups. Critics said that the enforcement is a return to “broken windows” policing, the enforcement of low-level offenses in an effort to prevent more serious crimes, which they said results in harassment.

In June, a court-appointed monitor foundthat anti-crime units, then under the leadership of the former commissioner, Keechant Sewell, were still stopping, frisking and searching too many people, despite assurances from Mr. Adams that new policies and training would prevent the problem.

Shootings in New York Drop by a Quarter as Surge of Violence Eases

Murders and rapes were also down, part of a nationwide trend after a post-pandemic spike.

www.nytimes.com