spend and spin


But just some subsidies right?

The ones for green that wont produce are good, but the ones that keep american oil competitive bad.


Is that your point? Please clarify.

I'd be happy to clarify. Subsidies to ANY organization or company that is turning an obscene PROFIT should be ended immediately. You don't keep getting unemployment when you get a job, why should the American taxpayers continue to subsidize the profits of private companies?

Ending subsidies doesnt get the job done. We need a complete rework of the tax system. No company should be required to pay more or less then the next.

Bill Clinton had a editorial printed ( i forget where) that had some wonderful ideas. Leave out his socialism he added with it.

I hope you had the opportunity to have read it. I could support those ideas.
 
But just some subsidies right?

The ones for green that wont produce are good, but the ones that keep american oil competitive bad.


Is that your point? Please clarify.

I'd be happy to clarify. Subsidies to ANY organization or company that is turning an obscene PROFIT should be ended immediately. You don't keep getting unemployment when you get a job, why should the American taxpayers continue to subsidize the profits of private companies?

Ending subsidies doesnt get the job done. We need a complete rework of the tax system. No company should be required to pay more or less then the next.

Bill Clinton had a editorial printed ( i forget where) that had some wonderful ideas. Leave out his socialism he added with it.

I hope you had the opportunity to have read it. I could support those ideas.

Ending subsidies to companies making a profit (just like cutting off unemployment when you get a job), ending the two wars and letting the Bush tax cuts expire, DOES get the job done.

Medicare can be "fixed" in an instant, simply by making it the public option that the majority of Americans WANTED in the first place. Social Security can be strengthened by ending the income cap.

There are ways to "fix" us without doing it on the backs of the poor and the elderly that will be hurt by the dramatic and draconian cuts currently being proposed in the crap, slash and burn plan.
 
Comrades

with Papa Obama's new lows in the polls
it may be time to bring out the children again to save us

Rejoice
The one is with us

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtGrp5MbzAI]‪Obama Kids Music Video : Cute or Creepy ?‬‏ - YouTube[/ame]
 
Reid is a moron, The only way he got re elected is to take votes by bus and give them happy meals. Otherwise this moron would not have been re elected. Of course they were all union workers! The Dems want to blame the REP because that is what they do best. Boehner is trying to get something through but this idiot wont even look at it. Just assumes he wont like it and says it Dead on Arrival.

My early impression of you is that you're very stupid.

Welcome to USMB. You'll fit right in.
Im stupid because the truth hurts doesnt it. Why wont Reid look at Boehners plan he just keeps saying it is dead on arrival . And its true that Reid bused in all those casino workers. You dont see a REP doing that do you because they dont have to bribe their voters. :eusa_whistle:
 
Harry Reid has just lied his ass off in front of the whole damn country.He accused the republicans of holding the economy hostage by refusing to compromise!!!The house republicans have passed 2 deals to raise the debt ceiling and cut spending to help balance the budget.the senate shot them down,wouldn't even have a vote!!!Compromise!!!where's the libb's damn plan!!!early this week Reid actually accepted a compromise from the house that he later reneged on after being chastised by the White House!!!the libbs are giving us 2 choices, destroy the economy by spending us into oblivion or destroy the economy by defaulting on the debt!!!!STALIN HAS INVADED!!!IT"S BEEN 822 days OBAMA!!!!:eek: REID VOTE ON THE BILL PASSED BY THE HOUSE UP OR DOWN JUST FREAKIN VOTE!!! WHY WANT THE LIBBS VOTE??????

You NEED to compromise to what we want or we will say NO and then the last say is a veto so whose holding who hostage!?
 
I'd be happy to clarify. Subsidies to ANY organization or company that is turning an obscene PROFIT should be ended immediately. You don't keep getting unemployment when you get a job, why should the American taxpayers continue to subsidize the profits of private companies?

Ending subsidies doesnt get the job done. We need a complete rework of the tax system. No company should be required to pay more or less then the next.

Bill Clinton had a editorial printed ( i forget where) that had some wonderful ideas. Leave out his socialism he added with it.

I hope you had the opportunity to have read it. I could support those ideas.

Ending subsidies to companies making a profit (just like cutting off unemployment when you get a job), ending the two wars and letting the Bush tax cuts expire, DOES get the job done.

Medicare can be "fixed" in an instant, simply by making it the public option that the majority of Americans WANTED in the first place. Social Security can be strengthened by ending the income cap.

There are ways to "fix" us without doing it on the backs of the poor and the elderly that will be hurt by the dramatic and draconian cuts currently being proposed in the crap, slash and burn plan.

If you end the subsidies that allow American companies to be competitive on the world market, THEY LEAVE.

Adding people to medicare roles does not improve it. Tripling the tax you pay on it, MIGHT. But that remains in doubt.

Eliminating the Obama tax cut causes all Americans taxes to increase, Yet you just stated balancing on the backs of the poor and elderly isnt the way to go.

I dont see a thing youve posted as working. So please clear up any misunderstandings I have.
 
The OP is confused. The Republicans have been taken over by a rigid ideological movement that wants to destroy SS and Medicare - and starve all government of revenue, including fire and police departments across the nation. That movement is holding the country hostage so that is can move money from the public sector to tax cuts for the ultra-wealthy. And what do the ultra-wealthy do with the tax cuts? Do they create jobs? Is that what happened with the Bush tax cuts? Nope. They invest it into casino capitalism - hedge funds & derivatives; they invest it into lobbying - that's right, the historic tax cuts which Reagan promised would turn into jobs have been diverted into the pockets of politicians in exchange for market advantages and government contracts. The promised jobs never happened. In fact, since Reagan, jobs have been progressively shipped to Asian sweat shops. Only FOX News morons don't see this. Finally, the tax cuts are invested into talk radio and think tanks for the purpose of molding the opinion of the OP, who failed to say anything of substance, like, for instance: the Boehner bill was intentionally loaded with stuff that would not pass in any congress in history, like an amendment to the fucking constitution (which requires a 2/3rds vote that EVERYONE in Washington knows is impossible).

The debt includes two Bush wars and the largest expansion of Medicare in the program's history - Medicare Part D. Reagan and Bush expanded the debt ceiling more than Carter and Clinton by a staggering margin. We never hear a peep when Republican presidents spend twice as much as their Democratic predecessors, which has been the norm since Reagan. And we won't hear a peep when the next Republican administration spends like drunken sailors. We've seen this movie before.

Reagan used the Cold War to spend twice as much as Carter, and Bush used the War on Terrorism to turn Iraq into a no-bid haven. I can't wait until 2012 because the big spenders are coming back . . . and the Tea Party will be mysteriously silent. Rand Paul talks tough when there is a weak Democrat in office. But, when there is a Republican president in the White House, the GOP congress always spends more pork than anyone. Did anyone take notice of the 6 years of Sodom, 2000-2006, when the GOP controlled every branch of government? They spent more than any group in history. We didn't hear a peep from the conservative base.

How is it possible that the nation is letting the most fiscally irresponsible movement in history fool them again?
Another idiot. Dimwits are the problem.
 
Ending subsidies doesnt get the job done. We need a complete rework of the tax system. No company should be required to pay more or less then the next.

Bill Clinton had a editorial printed ( i forget where) that had some wonderful ideas. Leave out his socialism he added with it.

I hope you had the opportunity to have read it. I could support those ideas.

Ending subsidies to companies making a profit (just like cutting off unemployment when you get a job), ending the two wars and letting the Bush tax cuts expire, DOES get the job done.

Medicare can be "fixed" in an instant, simply by making it the public option that the majority of Americans WANTED in the first place. Social Security can be strengthened by ending the income cap.

There are ways to "fix" us without doing it on the backs of the poor and the elderly that will be hurt by the dramatic and draconian cuts currently being proposed in the crap, slash and burn plan.

If you end the subsidies that allow American companies to be competitive on the world market, THEY LEAVE.

Adding people to medicare roles does not improve it. Tripling the tax you pay on it, MIGHT. But that remains in doubt.

Eliminating the Obama tax cut causes all Americans taxes to increase, Yet you just stated balancing on the backs of the poor and elderly isnt the way to go.

I dont see a thing youve posted as working. So please clear up any misunderstandings I have.

If the companies are making record breaking profits, they don't need the subsidies, period. Start-ups, small business...they need the subsidies. Those ARE the actual job creators, not multinational corporations. How can you be opposed to welfare (I'm speculating, maybe you're not), but support this kind of gluttonous corporate welfare?

Of course adding young, healthy individuals paying into Medicare would strengthen it. Why do you think insurance pools work in the first place? Here's a quote from Tea Bag representative Aaron Shock:

But I haven’t given it much thought because quite frankly I think I’m helping out the institution by lowering the risk pool for some of my older guys.

I should have clarified...ending the Bush tax cuts on anyone making over a million dollars a year. But you know what? I could afford for my taxes to go up a bit if it helps get our country out of this financial mess. I'm what you'd consider the disappearing middle class. I'd pay more to strengthen that middle class and make it available to more Americans.
 
Last edited:
Ending subsidies to companies making a profit (just like cutting off unemployment when you get a job), ending the two wars and letting the Bush tax cuts expire, DOES get the job done.

Medicare can be "fixed" in an instant, simply by making it the public option that the majority of Americans WANTED in the first place. Social Security can be strengthened by ending the income cap.

There are ways to "fix" us without doing it on the backs of the poor and the elderly that will be hurt by the dramatic and draconian cuts currently being proposed in the crap, slash and burn plan.

If you end the subsidies that allow American companies to be competitive on the world market, THEY LEAVE.

Adding people to medicare roles does not improve it. Tripling the tax you pay on it, MIGHT. But that remains in doubt.

Eliminating the Obama tax cut causes all Americans taxes to increase, Yet you just stated balancing on the backs of the poor and elderly isnt the way to go.

I dont see a thing youve posted as working. So please clear up any misunderstandings I have.

If the companies are making record breaking profits, they don't need the subsidies, period. Start-ups, small business...they need the subsidies. Those ARE the actual job creators, not multinational corporations. How can you be opposed to welfare (I'm speculating, maybe you're not), but support this kind of gluttonous corporate welfare?

Of course adding young, healthy individuals paying into Medicare would strengthen it. Why do you think insurance pools work in the first place? Here's a quote from Tea Bag representative Aaron Shock:

But I haven’t given it much thought because quite frankly I think I’m helping out the institution by lowering the risk pool for some of my older guys.

I should have clarified...ending the Bush tax cuts on anyone making over a million dollars a year. But you know what? I could afford for my taxes to go up a bit if it helps get our country out of this financial mess. I'm what you'd consider the disappearing middle class. I'd pay more to strengthen that middle class and make it available to more Americans.
do you really believe that raising taxes will help small business??are you so naive that you actually think the most anti free market administration in this country's history will use tax increases to help small business???:eek:
 

Forum List

Back
Top