Something Is Wrong, and It’s Not the Universe

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    The sound of settled science strikes again.

    We’re getting something wrong about the universe.

    It might be something small: a measurement issue that makes certain stars looks closer or farther away than they are, something astrophysicists could fix with a few tweaks to how they measure distances across space. It might be something big: an error — or series of errors — in cosmology, or our understanding of the universe’s origin and evolution. If that’s the case, our entire history of space and time may be messed up. But whatever the issue is, it’s making key observations of the universe disagree with each other: Measured one way, the universe appears to be expanding at a certain rate; measured another way, the universe appears to be expanding at a different rate. And, as a new paper shows, those discrepancies have gotten larger in recent years, even as the measurements have gotten more precise.

    “We think that if our understanding of cosmology is correct, then all of these different measurements should be giving us the same answer,” said Katie Mack, a theoretical cosmologist at North Carolina State University (NCSU) and co-author of the new paper.

    “If we’re getting different answers that means that there’s something that we don’t know,” Mack told Live Science.

    How the Universe Stopped Making Sense

    And whatever that something turns out to be, it will point towards Genesis like every other scientific discovery has.
     
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    Please move to religion section or rubber room
     
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    Poor baby feels threatened.
     
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    Haha...yeah, I'm scared of leprechauns, too. And unicorns.
     
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    Figures.
     
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    It doesn’t “point” to anything other than our lack of understanding. Lack of understanding is not proof of any deity, or even of anything supernatural. Lack of understanding is in fact not proof of ANYTHING, it is candid admission of ignorance. Here, give a listen to the first few minutes where a clear and simple explanation is given for “the argument from ignorance”.

    Oh, and “settled science” is a phrase most commonly used by those who have little understanding of science.

     
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    Small penis?

    You know very well that the Hubble constant is really the Hubble variable.
     
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    Fort Fun Indiana cannot withstand real science, and since he a small penis, will drop out.

    Here is what has been found:

    We have natural physical constants and with improvements to technology, these natural physical constants have been measure more accurately such as pi, the charge of an electron, the speed of light, Planck constant, and more. These improved measurements differ from previous measurements only slightly. For example, the speed of light or c was measured to be about 3.007x108 meters per second around 1750. In the 19th century, the measurements of the speed of light generally fell between 2.999 x 108 and 3.001 x 108 meters per second. If we assume that today's accepted value of 2.99792458 x 108 meters per second is correct, then the 18th century value differed from the 20th century value by only 0.3%.

    The Hubble "variable" isn't a real physical constant, so we should not expect its value to be calculated as consistently as the speed of light has been.

    Over the past 60 years, the calculated values of the Hubble "constant" shown in the table have varied far more than the measurements of the speed of light. This shows it is not really a constant.

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    As we learn more about what is happening out there, then the age of universe will be adjusted. Hasn't it recently been adjusted downward instead of rising since Hubble?
     
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    I'm not going to argue religion or not, but the fundamental theory of the Universe has always bothered me. I think it is far older than cosmologists currently think it is, and i have a problem with the big bang as a whole. If the Universe originated from a singularity, how can galaxies collide? How is it possible for galaxies to not be all travelling away from each other in a giant sphere?
     
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    Another madeup creationist talking point that you don't even understand. Your comment belongs in the religion section.
     
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