Andrew2382
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Yes, we ahve made no progress in Iraq, you are right..we lost
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Yes, we ahve made no progress in Iraq, you are right..we lost
He had no illegal order he was disobeying.... the guy is a disgrace and is in violation of his oath of duty.... he is derelict in his duties and has abandoned his post...
maybe you should try and understand what you are fucking talking about with the military... understand the sense of duty and honor.. understand the commitment one signs up for....
I'm a former Marine, and if I had been ordered to deploy to Iraq to fight for big oil I wouldn't have gone and would've objected on the grounds of the war being immoral. However, if I was defending my country and I objected to it having already enlisted, well, then you could call me a coward and lock me up. However, I don't necessarily think the war in Afghanistan is immoral since we're fighting people who attacked. The war in Iraq was immoral because Bush misconstrued the facts. We had no business attacking a sovereign country and if I had been enlisted during I would've objected on moral grounds.
People enlist to defend the constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic, and Bush has been more of an enemy to the constitution than Saddam Hussein ever was. People don't enlist to defend big oil and Halliburton's interests.
Go ahead and lock him up, what compassion and understanding you Republicans show! And for the Nazis - there were legal orders to kill the Jews, because under Hitler it was illegal to help Jews. Not that it matters. If a legal order is for you to kill someone and you don't think it's right, then you have to stand up for what you believe in, right? Isn't that the US is all about?
I'm a former Marine, and if I had been ordered to deploy to Iraq to fight for big oil I wouldn't have gone and would've objected on the grounds of the war being immoral. However, if I was defending my country and I objected to it having already enlisted, well, then you could call me a coward and lock me up. However, I don't necessarily think the war in Afghanistan is immoral since we're fighting people who attacked. The war in Iraq was immoral because Bush misconstrued the facts. We had no business attacking a sovereign country and if I had been enlisted during I would've objected on moral grounds.
People enlist to defend the constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic, and Bush has been more of an enemy to the constitution than Saddam Hussein ever was. People don't enlist to defend big oil and Halliburton's interests.
Go ahead and lock him up, what compassion and understanding you Republicans show! And for the Nazis - there were legal orders to kill the Jews, because under Hitler it was illegal to help Jews. Not that it matters. If a legal order is for you to kill someone and you don't think it's right, then you have to stand up for what you believe in, right? Isn't that the US is all about?
We were getting cheap oil for food under Saddam. What did we gain?
$10 billion a month stupid.
Mook Tada El Sadr will be the next President of Iraq. He is Shiite. So is Iran. They want us gone. You have no clue what Iraq will be in the future. Big fucking deal we got rid of Saddam. How much did it cost? Are we any safer?
The oil companies will continue to steal Iraq oil until the day they throw us out, and the USA will not share one bit of that revenue. But the GOP will get big donations from the oil men that benefit from the occupation.
I don't even want to get into it with an ignorant person like you who doesn't know what's really going on in the middle east or the rest of the world.
If you think Bush is doing a good job, then you are beyond stupid.
How's Pakistan going? How's Afganistan going? Iran? Russia? N. Korea?
Bush has had the worst foreign policies of any president in the history of America.
Saddam helped keep Iran in check. We just created a monster.
And the Sunni's will be the future terrorists in Iraq. There were no terrorists in Iraq when Saddam was in power. He killed them all.
You don't realize Iraq is not civilized enough to be a democracy. They hate us. Get it? And us staying for so long is one of the reasons we weren't treated like liberators. We raped their resources!
Make an example of him AND the next hundred or so cowards and spoiled brats who seem to think the World is just their G'damned playground.
I enlisted as soon as I turned 17 so I COULD go to 'nam. I didn't like Communism then and I like it less now. The problem is that the twats that were protesting then are the Democrat's leaders today. They were pu*sies then and they still are.
Re-instate the draft.
Bring back the firing squad.
I suggest we start in the Military, move to South L.A. and continue on to Hollywood.
Thin the f*ckin' herd.
Except Iraq was a justified continuation action from violations of cease-fire...
And Bush has not been an enemy to the Constitution... he has broken no laws... he would have been brought up on charges so fast, even a dizzy headed lib's head would have spun off...
If you would have deserted or gone AWOL... you would have been as dishonorable as this coward
There were Nazi soldiers that did go with the desertion option... and they assumed the risks including prosecution by their own military and government, including the possibility of death... but funny, I don't see us having orders for the extermination of innocent civilians... we have legit actions helping a new ally with their security after our military action against Saddam's regime... we have legit actions against terrorists and insurgents in both Iraq and Afghanistan
I did serve with honor willingly during the first part of the Gulf War... not that I wanted to go to war, but it was my duty as a soldier that voluntarily signed up for service to my country and in defense of my country and it's interests... while not always pleasant, I did all of my duties with honor and the commitment necessary... which is what is expected from each and every soldier
Surely you recognize the validity of CO status.
Young impressionable soldiers may not realize the consequences of their signing up .. and/or may not get a better picture of what is happening until after they sign up.
Say for instance a young impressionable person was moved by the events of 9/11 to join up to fight the terrorists and stop Saddam from using WMD .. then later, as did all of planet earth, find out that Saddam doesn't have WMD, and Iraq had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11 .. are you suggesting that that person has no right to dissent? No right to answer to their own conscience? No right to intelligence?
Just do as you're told no matter what you're told?
Liberals didn't cost you a victory in Nam, God
did.
No, Iraq wasn't justified. It was done simply because Curious George wanted oil, and was pissed at Saddam for threatening to kill his father.
Bush ISN'T an enemy to the Constitution? Bullshit. He wipes his ass with it every chance he gets, and whenever he gets caught, he immediately pushes for an ammendment.
As far as breaking no laws? Bullshit again. The only reason that he didn't get brought up on charges is because he was protected by a Republican congress for the first 6 years, and the Dems didn't have enough time to get things rolling during the second 2, because of gridlock.
Nope......the Iraq war is one of the most failed operations that this country has ever done, and Bush Jr. is going to go down in history as the most failed president ANY country has ever had.
Why else do you think he keeps pushing for more stimulus checks? He's looking to buy us off and hope that we forget the cluster-fuck of the past 8 years.
However.......most people are smarter than that and won't be bought off so easy.
lol raped their resources? OO you must mean how the first contracts for rebuilding their infrastructure and getting the oil went to china and not the big 4 oil companies.
Mainly because Schumer and Kerry got involved and killed the deal to ensure Americans didn't go in there just for oil.
I see now.
ALSO TYPING IN CAPS DOESN'T GIVE YOUR POINT ANY MORE INTELLIGENCE IT SEEMS TO BE LACKING
No, Iraq wasn't justified. It was done simply because Curious George wanted oil, and was pissed at Saddam for threatening to kill his father.
Bush ISN'T an enemy to the Constitution? Bullshit. He wipes his ass with it every chance he gets, and whenever he gets caught, he immediately pushes for an ammendment.
As far as breaking no laws? Bullshit again. The only reason that he didn't get brought up on charges is because he was protected by a Republican congress for the first 6 years, and the Dems didn't have enough time to get things rolling during the second 2, because of gridlock.
Nope......the Iraq war is one of the most failed operations that this country has ever done, and Bush Jr. is going to go down in history as the most failed president ANY country has ever had.
Why else do you think he keeps pushing for more stimulus checks? He's looking to buy us off and hope that we forget the cluster-fuck of the past 8 years.
However.......most people are smarter than that and won't be bought off so easy.