Some Army Officers may face charges for not Reporting Abu Nidal

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    Just heard this on the news but can't seem to find it on the web.

    This might just light a fire under those adopting a laissez-faire attitude over eratic behavior.....
     
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    Army Officers May be Punished for Ft. Hood - CBS News

    Official Tells AP up to 8 Officers Face Inquiry, Possible Punishment for Missing Signs of Hasan's Mindset

    (AP) Pentagon inquiry into the case of the alleged Fort Hood shooter could lead to punishment of up to eight Army officers, a U.S. official said late Thursday.

    Defense Secretary Robert Gates was expected to refer findings on the officers to the Army for further inquiry and possible punishment. The report on what went wrong in the case of Army Maj. Nidal Hasan, who is accused in the shootings, is expected to be released Friday.

    The official said a Pentagon inquiry finds fault with five to eight supervisors who knew or should have known about the shortcomings and erratic behavior of the shooting suspect. Hasan is accused of killing 13 people at the Texas Army base on Nov. 5.


    The officers supervised Hasan when he was a medical student and during his early work as an Army psychiatrist at Walter Reed Army Medical Center.

    The official described the confidential report on condition of anonymity because it has not been made public.

    According to information gathered during the internal Pentagon review and obtained by The Associated Press last week, Hasan's strident views on Islam became more pronounced as his training progressed. Worries about his competence also grew, yet his superiors continued to give him positive performance evaluations that kept him moving through the ranks. That led to his eventual assignment at Fort Hood.

    Recent statistics show the Army rarely blocks junior officers from promotion, especially in the medical corps.
     
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    It's called scapegoats. Somebody has to pay. Let's trim down those retirement checks. The military mentality sucks. Spend too much time eating our own to appease bleeding fucking heart liberals.:evil:
     
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    Do you seriously think that Contessa is gonna actually get the point your making?
     
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    She hasn't since she joined. She's one of those "in-dull-ectually" elite types.:badgrin:
     
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    I think she must be really, really 'vertically challenged', since points often sail right over her head.
     
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    If you all will remember, back when this incident occurred there was a good deal said about fear in the brass of "political correctness" possibly leading to claims of religious and/or ethnic discrimination as part of the problem with not taking serious steps toward dealing with this guy's escalating erratic behavior. It seems like nothing is being said about "political correctness" playing a part in the inaction of superior officers in promotions, transfers, etc.

    That doesn't relieve the brass. They should have said, "Screw political correctness; lives are at stake; we have a problem psychiatrist on our hands; we need to act now." Things being what they are the general public may never know all the results of the Pentagon reports or what the Commission overseeing the investigation was told.
     
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    A real Marine said that in the Marine Corps those in command are responsible when those under their direct supervision fuck up. Apparently the Army does not function that way. That is pretty pathetic, It seems that in the Army, the higher ups never have any responsibility for what goes on. There does seem to be a pattern here.... The Army command structure is full of liars.... They lied on Abu Ninal's fitness reports, they lied about Abu Ghra'aib, they lied about Jessica Lynch, and they lied about Pat Tillman....

    It appears that lying is what they do....

    however:

    907. ART. 107. FALSE STATEMENTS

    Any person subject to this chapter who, with intent to deceive, signs any false record, return, regulation, order, or other official document, knowing it to be false, or makes any other false official statement knowing it to be false, shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.

    Uniform Code of Military Justice

    ART. 132. FRAUDS AGAINST THE UNITED STATES
    Any person subject to this chapter--

    [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular](1) who, knowing it to be false or fraudulent-- [/FONT]

    [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular](A) makes any claim against the United States or any officer thereof; or [/FONT]

    [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular](B) presents to any person in the civil or military service thereof, for approval or payment, any claim against the United States or any officer thereof; [/FONT]

    [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular](2) who, for the purpose of obtaining the approval, allowance, or payment of any claim against the United States or any officer thereof [/FONT]

    [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular](A) makes or uses any writing or other paper knowing it to contain false or fraudulent statements; [/FONT]

    [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular](B) makes any oath to any fact or to any writing or other paper knowing the oath to be false; or [/FONT]

    [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular](C) forges or counterfeits any signature upon any writing or other paper, or uses any such signature knowing it to be forged or counterfeited; [/FONT]

    [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular](3) who, having charge, possession, custody, or control of any money, or other property or the United States, furnished or intended for the armed forces thereof, knowingly delivers to any person having authority to receive it, any amount thereof less than that for which he receives a certificate or receipt; or [/FONT]

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    [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]933. ART. 133. CONDUCT UNBECOMING AN OFFICER AND A GENTLEMAN [/FONT]

    [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]Any commissioned officer, cadet, or midshipman who is convicted of conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentleman shall be punished as a court-martial may direct. [/FONT]


    UCMJ

    Between the three areas there ought to be enough to send a message to those supposedly directly supervising others....
     
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    Never, ever take seriously a post by someone who needs to use colors and bold to make sure their 'point' gets across.
     
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    It's very easy to sit in judgement of those who were in the position to make the calls than it is to be the person making the call. What allowed this tragedy? Political correctness. But as always, the idiots are happy to blame the military.
     

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