Somali Pirate Solution.........

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    Yesterday, I was talking to my room mate about the situation in Somalia with the pirates, and we came up with a really simple solution.........

    Water cannons.

    And, I'm talking water cannons like what they use on the fire fighting tugboats. What would be the ideal solution is to place them fore and aft, with others lining the side if necessary, and slave them all into the bridge via remote control. That way, when the pirates attacked, there would be no exposed crew members taking fire.

    This would also solve quite a few problems associated with taking armed ships into foreign ports, as most ports have quite a few restrictions on that, as well as would take care of the problem of having your weapons used against you.

    A water cannon is capable of firing water 100-150 ft, at a very high pressure, and, given the stability of the RHIB boats that the pirates use, they would be capsized fairly easy. If nothing else, it would give the crew time to escape from a swamped boat.

    What do you guys think?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_cannon
     
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    Did you see that Italian cruise ship had Israeli commando's on board and they were able to thwart the pirate attack?
     
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    Yeah......but the thing is, if you slave water cannons into the ships firefighting system, as well as make them remotely operated, you have a ONE TIME EXPENSE of installation, and from there on, it's only maintenance that you have to worry about.

    Much cheaper than hiring a militia to ride your vessel.

    I wrote this idea to Maersk this morning.
     
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    No Dave, that's for the pirate BASES, not the ships.

    Kinda like going after a fly with a shotgun........

    BTW.......ever see one of those ships fire? IMPRESSIVE!!!!!!! Saw it while I was over in Beruit in 83-85.
     
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    This better ;)

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    You know what would work even better? A Marine landing craft outfitted with a Bushmaster. You know....the one with the magnetic ammo that will explode where you tell it to mid-air?

    Saw it fired on a boat on FutureWeapons once. Swiss cheesed everything above the waterline and totally destroyed the mannequins.
     
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    ABIKERSAILOR;

    If I understand the situation, weapons employed by the ships/crew are undesirable.
    Your water cannon idea sounds plausible but would it still be considered a weapon?

    Consider who is manning these ships, not trained military, but little Philippines, Arabs, Malaysians, Vietnamese, Indians, etc, etc. They have a hard time just talking to one another in routine matters and they didn't sign up to soldier. First sign of trouble and they are under cover.

    Somehow, IMO, a protection scheme that doesn't involve the civilian crew and their ships must be fashioned.

    In another thread on this subject, I posted that small, armed boats, like those used in the river navy in Vietnam, manned by trained warrior mercenaries, escort ships through this dangerous area. The armed boats would be tended by a mother ship. The operation is funded on a fee for service basis and voluntary.

    Sounds like something out of an Al Capone movie. A protection racket, pay up or the pirates get you. Gad, the business implications are prolly short term and may not be worth the effort.
     
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    Actually, when the call to repel boarders (i.e. people trying to stop the ship from performing it's mission.....) is sent over the 1MC (ship's speaker system), it isn't considered a weapon as much as a non-lethal deterrent.

    Now.....you're right........the average deckhand isn't going to be willing to place themselves in the line of fire, and generally, a deckhand (general Seaman), isn't going to have the training required to operate it (generally).

    But........the officers will. And generally, those are the people that are plotting the course of the ship, as well as making operational decisions concerning the ship and crew. Now, if you make them remotely operated from the bridge (as most firefighting equipment that is automated is), and you have officers trained to sight them in and fire them remotely, it would solve a lot of problems.

    Never mind that the water cannons are a non-lethal option, and cannot be used against the crew, but, this particular little solution will keep them legal in international ports, as fire fighting equipment is not considered a weapon.

    Personally? I think it would be a lot cheaper to install and use than having armed militia riding alongside or on the boat.

    You do realize that it doesn't take much to capsize a RHIB boat right?

    Learned most of this stuff by the way when I did a 2 year tour with Military Sealift Command while in the Navy.
     
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    hey Cartman and Butters got a few of their friends together and unwittingly ended the problem....so its over.....lol
     

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