'Socialism': The GOP's Forever Bogeyman

[Rustic]

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Republicans Have Been Smearing Democrats As Socialists Since Way Before You Were Born

From FDR to Barack Obama to Bernie Sanders, conservatives are reading from the same playbook.

Republicans believe they have hit on a bold, brand new line of attack that is sure to doom Democrats heading into the 2020 elections. President Donald Trump made it a central point of his State of the Union. Rep. Tom Emmer (R-Minn.), head of the National Republican Congressional Committee, promises to bring this fresh hit in his party’s effort to regain control of the House.

The big plan is to ― wait for it ― attack Democrats as socialists.

“Socialism is the greatest vulnerability by far that the House Democrats have,” Emmer told the New York Times.

As any American who has developed to the stage of object permanence can tell you, this isn’t a new plan. It is, in fact, the oldest trick in the book.

Every single political actor since the late 19th century advocating for some form progressive social change ― whether it be economic reform, challenging America’s racial caste system or advocating for women’s rights or LGBT rights ― has been tarred as a socialist or a communist bent on destroying the American Free Enterprise System.

Contemporary political conservatism has been focused on blocking social change that challenges existing hierarchies of class, race and sex since its founding in response to the French Revolution. Socialism emerged as the biggest threat to class hierarchies in due time and conservatives have called everything they don’t like socialism ever since.

More: Republicans Have Been Smearing Democrats As Socialists Since Way Before You Were Born

Once again, it's the same ole socialism bogeyman. Hopefully most voters are smart enough to see through this GOP bogeyman. Socialism is a major part of our society - and has been for a long time. It makes our lives much better - each and every day. Socialism comes in various forms - it isn't one size fits all.

75 Ways Socialism Has Improved America

It was a death sentence for the hundreds of millions under mao, stalin, and of course the dictators that had countries named "the peoples republic or the peoples democratic republic.

 

[Lesh]

Cons cant even explain what democrat socialism is .

Democratic socialism - Wikipedia

You are fully against Capitalism and private ownership.

Democratic Socialism goes against what our Founding Fathers wanted.

Bullshit. Unregulated capitalism is a nightmare. Read some Dickens or look at the sweat shops and child labor of the late 19th century-early 20th Century.

what we HAVE...and what we require is regulated capitalism...and that by definition is "socialism"

The only REAL question is how MUCH socialism do we require.

Let's at least understand the terms and be honest about them.

Can you do that?

 

[Oddball]

Anyone else note the white nationalist pepe meme with the assault rifle?

Oh

 

[Rustic]

Cons cant even explain what democrat socialism is .

Democratic socialism - Wikipedia

You are fully against Capitalism and private ownership.

Democratic Socialism goes against what our Founding Fathers wanted.

Bullshit. Unregulated capitalism is a nightmare. Read some Dickens or look at the sweat shops and child labor of the late 19th century-early 20th Century.

what we HAVE...and what we require is regulated capitalism...and that by definition is "socialism"

The only REAL question is how MUCH socialism do we require.

Let's at least understand the terms and be honest about them.

Can you do that?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Cons cant even explain what democrat socialism is .

Democratic socialism - Wikipedia

You are fully against Capitalism and private ownership.

Democratic Socialism goes against what our Founding Fathers wanted.

Bullshit. Unregulated capitalism is a nightmare. Read some Dickens or look at the sweat shops and child labor of the late 19th century-early 20th Century.

what we HAVE...and what we require is regulated capitalism...and that by definition is "socialism"

The only REAL question is how MUCH socialism do we require.

Let's at least understand the terms and be honest about them.

Can you do that?

No, its not socialism. You're wrong. Thats all.

 

[Oddball]

Cons cant even explain what democrat socialism is .

Democratic socialism - Wikipedia

You are fully against Capitalism and private ownership.

Democratic Socialism goes against what our Founding Fathers wanted.

Bullshit. Unregulated capitalism is a nightmare. Read some Dickens or look at the sweat shops and child labor of the late 19th century-early 20th Century.

what we HAVE...and what we require is regulated capitalism...and that by definition is "socialism"

The only REAL question is how MUCH socialism do we require.

Let's at least understand the terms and be honest about them.

Can you do that?

Dickens is fiction, you babbling buffoon!....OMFG, you get dopier by the post!

 

[Rustic]

Anyone else note the white nationalist pepe meme with the assault rifle?

Oh

 

[Rustic]

Cons cant even explain what democrat socialism is .

Democratic socialism - Wikipedia

You are fully against Capitalism and private ownership.

Democratic Socialism goes against what our Founding Fathers wanted.

Bullshit. Unregulated capitalism is a nightmare. Read some Dickens or look at the sweat shops and child labor of the late 19th century-early 20th Century.

what we HAVE...and what we require is regulated capitalism...and that by definition is "socialism"

The only REAL question is how MUCH socialism do we require.

Let's at least understand the terms and be honest about them.

Can you do that?

Dickens is fiction, you babbling buffoon!....OMFG, you get dopier by the post!

He doesn’t get out of his safe space much at all...

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Cons cant even explain what democrat socialism is .

Democratic socialism - Wikipedia

You are fully against Capitalism and private ownership.

Democratic Socialism goes against what our Founding Fathers wanted.

"Democratic socialism"....As if you can say "chocolate covered" before "dog turd", and that turns a chunk if shit into a Snickers bar.

Those like Bernie Sanders and Cortez are Democratic Socialists that are idealists and not realists.

What is Amazing is those that support the views and ideas of Cortez and Sanders refuse to attempt their brand of Socialism at the State level because they know it will fail like it has in the past.

Sooner or later the United States of America will become the United Socialist State's of America because humanity never learns...

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Commies always try to pretend they are not commies. They change colors to blend with their environment, because their ideas are so shitty, they would never win elections.


Ladies and Gentlemen,

"Mr." Boy George:

Commie commie commie commie
commies chameleon...

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Cons cant even explain what democrat socialism is .

Democratic socialism - Wikipedia

You are fully against Capitalism and private ownership.

Democratic Socialism goes against what our Founding Fathers wanted.

Bullshit. Unregulated capitalism is a nightmare. Read some Dickens or look at the sweat shops and child labor of the late 19th century-early 20th Century.

what we HAVE...and what we require is regulated capitalism...and that by definition is "socialism"

The only REAL question is how MUCH socialism do we require.

Let's at least understand the terms and be honest about them.

Can you do that?

Why don't you read the link that was provided and it States Democratic Socialists are fully against Capitalism and Private Business Ownership.

So why don't you be honest for once and admit what you want is a fully State ran society that dictates what you can or can not have in life...

 

[Lesh]

Cons cant even explain what democrat socialism is .

Democratic socialism - Wikipedia

You are fully against Capitalism and private ownership.

Democratic Socialism goes against what our Founding Fathers wanted.

I read it and it doesn't say what you think it says. In fact just the opposite

But YOU failed to read the following:

Unregulated capitalism is a nightmare. Read some Dickens or look at the sweat shops and child labor of the late 19th century-early 20th Century.

what we HAVE...and what we require is regulated capitalism...and that by definition is "socialism"

The only REAL question is how MUCH socialism do we require.

Let's at least understand the terms and be honest about them.

Can you do that?

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Who wants to get rid of American socialism for pure capitalism?

75 Ways Socialism Has Improved America

I do....Move your dead ass to Cuba, commie moonbat.

Okay, let's look at a country that did exactly that.

In order to take over a country using just Capitalistic natures, the first thing you have to do is to get rid of the Government and get your people in it's place. You start out by taking over 61% of the Legislation. Then you need to disband the Supreme Court or have replace at least the majority with Capitalists. Okay, now you've done that. Let's move on to the next phase.

Now you need to get all the elites who are also Capitalists to agree on a leader. That's pretty easy to do since you now control all the methods of "Election". You have have an election where both candidates are Capitalists hand picked. You con the public into believing that they had a say into it. The person that the Elites had already picked with "Win" the election by a very close margin to give the public the idea that their votes actually meant anything. Now the next phase.

Okay, you got your leader in place now. First thing he does is to abolish (as in arrest) the Supreme Court the second they show any resistance by using the Capitalist controlled congress to write new laws that allows him to do this. Next, the Leader starts to systematically replace the other 39% of the congress with his own people until he controls all of congress.

On to the next phase. The Capitalists or Corporations then go on to systematically take it all or most of everything. What's to stop them? The price of Bread is out of site. Fuel is out of site. Housing is out of site. Life for everyone not an elite becomes a living hell. Oh, and if anyone complains, they conveniently have trumped up charges against them leveled and sent to prison not be heard of again or they just disappear quietly. If this phase sounds familiar to you what happens then Socialism goes arry, that's because when either Socialism or Capitalism gets out of control, it ends up exactly the same place with a Dictator or a Monarchy.

On the Capitalist out of control side of things, this is what brought Mussolini to power and he even gave it a name, Fascism. Hitler learned almost everything he knew from Mussolini. Both started out as capitalists out of control. Stalin and Lenin took Communism to the Extreme and ended up in exactly the same place. The last chapter of all of them were identical and Mussolini could have authored all three outcomes.

The only Fascist Government that broke away and continued was Franco from Spain. He had enough smarts to know when to not go too far. And he cut deals with Mussolini and Hitler for support to defeat the Socialist Government that was completely out of control before 1936. Franco understood to leave the Catholic Church alone while the Socialist were systematically trying to destroy it. Franco understood that it was the Elites that really determined who would have and continue to have real power. He also understood that the common person could only stand so much misery before the rebelled. Hitler also understood this. Mussolini did not and look which one survived to die of old age and which one ended up being shot, drug, and hung upside down from a Lanyard. On the other side of the coin, Stalin also understood just how far to take things before the common person would rebel in force.

In the end, all but Franco completely took over everything and had to be replaced. The two really bad Fascists ran both countries into the ground. Meanwhile, even Stalin had to answer to the Elites somewhat but he wasn't afraid to have them "Disappear". A Fascist would never to that. A Fascist IS an Elite.

Everyone keeps looking at the outcomes rather than how they came to be. Socialism by itself leads to chaos, war, death and destruction. The same goes for unchecked Capitalism. One just comes from a different direction than the other but the outcome is always the same. You need both. One to make the money and the other to protect against the Fascist takeover that comes from the unregulated greed that comes from it. Yes, Capitalism is a good thing as long as you have Social Programs to guide it so that the masses will be able to live. Franco understood this. Mussolini did not.

 

[Oddball]

Who wants to get rid of American socialism for pure capitalism?

75 Ways Socialism Has Improved America

I do....Move your dead ass to Cuba, commie moonbat.

Okay, let's look at a country that did exactly that.

In order to take over a country using just Capitalistic natures, the first thing you have to do is to get rid of the Government and get your people in it's place. You start out by taking over 61% of the Legislation. Then you need to disband the Supreme Court or have replace at least the majority with Capitalists. Okay, now you've done that. Let's move on to the next phase.

Now you need to get all the elites who are also Capitalists to agree on a leader. That's pretty easy to do since you now control all the methods of "Election". You have have an election where both candidates are Capitalists hand picked. You con the public into believing that they had a say into it. The person that the Elites had already picked with "Win" the election by a very close margin to give the public the idea that their votes actually meant anything. Now the next phase.

Okay, you got your leader in place now. First thing he does is to abolish (as in arrest) the Supreme Court the second they show any resistance by using the Capitalist controlled congress to write new laws that allows him to do this. Next, the Leader starts to systematically replace the other 39% of the congress with his own people until he controls all of congress.

On to the next phase. The Capitalists or Corporations then go on to systematically take it all or most of everything. What's to stop them? The price of Bread is out of site. Fuel is out of site. Housing is out of site. Life for everyone not an elite becomes a living hell. Oh, and if anyone complains, they conveniently have trumped up charges against them leveled and sent to prison not be heard of again or they just disappear quietly. If this phase sounds familiar to you what happens then Socialism goes arry, that's because when either Socialism or Capitalism gets out of control, it ends up exactly the same place with a Dictator or a Monarchy.

On the Capitalist out of control side of things, this is what brought Mussolini to power and he even gave it a name, Fascism. Hitler learned almost everything he knew from Mussolini. Both started out as capitalists out of control. Stalin and Lenin took Communism to the Extreme and ended up in exactly the same place. The last chapter of all of them were identical and Mussolini could have authored all three outcomes.

The only Fascist Government that broke away and continued was Franco from Spain. He had enough smarts to know when to not go too far. And he cut deals with Mussolini and Hitler for support to defeat the Socialist Government that was completely out of control before 1936. Franco understood to leave the Catholic Church alone while the Socialist were systematically trying to destroy it. Franco understood that it was the Elites that really determined who would have and continue to have real power. He also understood that the common person could only stand so much misery before the rebelled. Hitler also understood this. Mussolini did not and look which one survived to die of old age and which one ended up being shot, drug, and hung upside down from a Lanyard. On the other side of the coin, Stalin also understood just how far to take things before the common person would rebel in force.

In the end, all but Franco completely took over everything and had to be replaced. The two really bad Fascists ran both countries into the ground. Meanwhile, even Stalin had to answer to the Elites somewhat but he wasn't afraid to have them "Disappear". A Fascist would never to that. A Fascist IS an Elite.

Everyone keeps looking at the outcomes rather than how they came to be. Socialism by itself leads to chaos, war, death and destruction. The same goes for unchecked Capitalism. One just comes from a different direction than the other but the outcome is always the same. You need both. One to make the money and the other to protect against the Fascist takeover that comes from the unregulated greed that comes from it. Yes, Capitalism is a good thing as long as you have Social Programs to guide it so that the masses will be able to live. Franco understood this. Mussolini did not.

Hegelian horse shit.....Real freedom doesn't need your or anyone else's votes or permission.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Cons cant even explain what democrat socialism is .

Democratic socialism - Wikipedia

You are fully against Capitalism and private ownership.

Democratic Socialism goes against what our Founding Fathers wanted.

I read it and it doesn't say what you think it says. In fact just the opposite

But YOU failed to read the following:

Unregulated capitalism is a nightmare. Read some Dickens or look at the sweat shops and child labor of the late 19th century-early 20th Century.

what we HAVE...and what we require is regulated capitalism...and that by definition is "socialism"

The only REAL question is how MUCH socialism do we require.

Let's at least understand the terms and be honest about them.

Can you do that?

Why are you lying?

It States Democratic Socialists are against Capitalism and Privately Owned Businesses, so which one of us is being dishonest?

It is you!

So because you want to redefine the term is you being dishonest as usual!

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

I read it and it doesn't say what you think it says. In fact just the opposite

I read it too and it says exactly what I think it says.

"Social ownership of the means of production" but ALLEGEGLY not by force (it's by force).

All the slackers vote to steal the means of production.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Cons cant even explain what democrat socialism is .

Democratic socialism - Wikipedia

You are fully against Capitalism and private ownership.

Democratic Socialism goes against what our Founding Fathers wanted.

I read it and it doesn't say what you think it says. In fact just the opposite

But YOU failed to read the following:

Unregulated capitalism is a nightmare. Read some Dickens or look at the sweat shops and child labor of the late 19th century-early 20th Century.

what we HAVE...and what we require is regulated capitalism...and that by definition is "socialism"

The only REAL question is how MUCH socialism do we require.

Let's at least understand the terms and be honest about them.

Can you do that?

Also do your Democratic Socialism on a State like California and watch it fall apart.

 

[Tehon]

Cons cant even explain what democrat socialism is .

Democratic socialism - Wikipedia

You are fully against Capitalism and private ownership.

Democratic Socialism goes against what our Founding Fathers wanted.

I read it and it doesn't say what you think it says. In fact just the opposite

But YOU failed to read the following:

Unregulated capitalism is a nightmare. Read some Dickens or look at the sweat shops and child labor of the late 19th century-early 20th Century.

what we HAVE...and what we require is regulated capitalism...and that by definition is "socialism"

The only REAL question is how MUCH socialism do we require.

Let's at least understand the terms and be honest about them.

Can you do that?

Dude,face it, you don't know what socialism is.

 

[Lesh]

Dude,face it, you don't know what socialism is.

Here's the definition

Definition of socialism. 1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the meansof production and distribution of goods.

Kindly explain what you think I get wrong.

Clearly we have private ownership of the means of production.