So you want better paying jobs?

[danielpalos]

dear; the social Power to Tax is Socialism, not Capitalism.

 

[Boss]

anyone who cannot afford life saving medical treatment.

...Can walk into ANY hospital emergency room and, under the law, cannot be denied life saving medical treatment in the United States of America. Capitalism makes this possible by factoring in the cost of treating such cases into the price others who can pay are charged.

dear, that is due to socialism, not capitalism. socialism bails out the least wealthy with life saving treatment, everyday. the right would prefer John Henry to simply "retire" when he is no longer able to work.

Sorry, it's not.. Hospitals, doctors, nurses, techs, EMTs, etc. do not work for the government or state, and they do not provide their service out of obligation to serve societal need. They may love what they do but they do it for capitalist monetary remuneration.

What Socialism wants to do with John Henry is much worse. If you are no longer productive then you are useless to the State. Expendable. As socialist economies collapse, these people are left to starve to death or they simply euthanize them.

Now I don't really know who you are talking about when you say "the right" because "the right" can be any number of people with a variety of individual viewpoints. Do you mean "those who aren't commies?" Is THAT "the right" you're talking about? Because, Communists damn sure don't care about you if you've become unproductive to the commune.

I can only speak for myself as a Conservative. I want John Henry to be cared for, either through his private sector insurance or through Medicare benefits he paid into his whole life. Furthermore, I want his life to have value and quality, even after he has passed his prime. I know capitalist entrepreneurs who are in their 90s.... it's a beautiful thing. They've used their minds, their ingenuity, their talents, their life-long wisdom, and continue to contribute in their own way to society.

sorry, it is if it is funded by the Peoples' tax monies it is Socialism not Capitalism, dear.

No, that is a meme Socialists repeat mindlessly. Under that same criteria, the existence of authority or government of any kind is also "socialist". A representative republican system is "socialist" if all we are considering is the basic concept in raw form. The board of directors and structural authority of any capitalist corporation can be said to be a "socialist" system.

 

[danielpalos]

anyone who cannot afford life saving medical treatment.

...Can walk into ANY hospital emergency room and, under the law, cannot be denied life saving medical treatment in the United States of America. Capitalism makes this possible by factoring in the cost of treating such cases into the price others who can pay are charged.

dear, that is due to socialism, not capitalism. socialism bails out the least wealthy with life saving treatment, everyday. the right would prefer John Henry to simply "retire" when he is no longer able to work.

Sorry, it's not.. Hospitals, doctors, nurses, techs, EMTs, etc. do not work for the government or state, and they do not provide their service out of obligation to serve societal need. They may love what they do but they do it for capitalist monetary remuneration.

What Socialism wants to do with John Henry is much worse. If you are no longer productive then you are useless to the State. Expendable. As socialist economies collapse, these people are left to starve to death or they simply euthanize them.

Now I don't really know who you are talking about when you say "the right" because "the right" can be any number of people with a variety of individual viewpoints. Do you mean "those who aren't commies?" Is THAT "the right" you're talking about? Because, Communists damn sure don't care about you if you've become unproductive to the commune.

I can only speak for myself as a Conservative. I want John Henry to be cared for, either through his private sector insurance or through Medicare benefits he paid into his whole life. Furthermore, I want his life to have value and quality, even after he has passed his prime. I know capitalist entrepreneurs who are in their 90s.... it's a beautiful thing. They've used their minds, their ingenuity, their talents, their life-long wisdom, and continue to contribute in their own way to society.

sorry, it is if it is funded by the Peoples' tax monies it is Socialism not Capitalism, dear.

No, that is a meme Socialists repeat mindlessly. Under that same criteria, the existence of authority or government of any kind is also "socialist". A representative republican system is "socialist" if all we are considering is the basic concept in raw form. The board of directors and structural authority of any capitalist corporation can be said to be a "socialist" system.

Yes, Firms are merely "authoritarian micro-States" and not necessarily, Individual in Nature, nor Nurture, for juridical purposes.

True capitalism involves those Individuals with the most gold making the most rules; thus, even democracy is a form of Socialism due the concept of equality regardless of capital, under our form of capitalism.

 

[Boss]

...Can walk into ANY hospital emergency room and, under the law, cannot be denied life saving medical treatment in the United States of America. Capitalism makes this possible by factoring in the cost of treating such cases into the price others who can pay are charged.

dear, that is due to socialism, not capitalism. socialism bails out the least wealthy with life saving treatment, everyday. the right would prefer John Henry to simply "retire" when he is no longer able to work.

Sorry, it's not.. Hospitals, doctors, nurses, techs, EMTs, etc. do not work for the government or state, and they do not provide their service out of obligation to serve societal need. They may love what they do but they do it for capitalist monetary remuneration.

What Socialism wants to do with John Henry is much worse. If you are no longer productive then you are useless to the State. Expendable. As socialist economies collapse, these people are left to starve to death or they simply euthanize them.

Now I don't really know who you are talking about when you say "the right" because "the right" can be any number of people with a variety of individual viewpoints. Do you mean "those who aren't commies?" Is THAT "the right" you're talking about? Because, Communists damn sure don't care about you if you've become unproductive to the commune.

I can only speak for myself as a Conservative. I want John Henry to be cared for, either through his private sector insurance or through Medicare benefits he paid into his whole life. Furthermore, I want his life to have value and quality, even after he has passed his prime. I know capitalist entrepreneurs who are in their 90s.... it's a beautiful thing. They've used their minds, their ingenuity, their talents, their life-long wisdom, and continue to contribute in their own way to society.

sorry, it is if it is funded by the Peoples' tax monies it is Socialism not Capitalism, dear.

No, that is a meme Socialists repeat mindlessly. Under that same criteria, the existence of authority or government of any kind is also "socialist". A representative republican system is "socialist" if all we are considering is the basic concept in raw form. The board of directors and structural authority of any capitalist corporation can be said to be a "socialist" system.

Yes, Firms are merely "authoritarian micro-States" and not necessarily, Individual in Nature, nor Nurture, for juridical purposes.

True capitalism involves those Individuals with the most gold making the most rules; thus, even democracy is a form of Socialism due the concept of equality regardless of capital, under our form of capitalism.

Problem is, that is not what intelligent people are referring to when they contemplate "socialist government" or a "socialist economic system."

True capitalism may involve individuals with the most gold making the most rules but they can do all that they want and free market capitalism doesn't function without a consumer. In a true socialist system, the same individuals with the most gold mandate the rules and shoot you in the head if you disagree because they also have all the guns.

 

[danielpalos]

dear, that is due to socialism, not capitalism. socialism bails out the least wealthy with life saving treatment, everyday. the right would prefer John Henry to simply "retire" when he is no longer able to work.

Sorry, it's not.. Hospitals, doctors, nurses, techs, EMTs, etc. do not work for the government or state, and they do not provide their service out of obligation to serve societal need. They may love what they do but they do it for capitalist monetary remuneration.

What Socialism wants to do with John Henry is much worse. If you are no longer productive then you are useless to the State. Expendable. As socialist economies collapse, these people are left to starve to death or they simply euthanize them.

Now I don't really know who you are talking about when you say "the right" because "the right" can be any number of people with a variety of individual viewpoints. Do you mean "those who aren't commies?" Is THAT "the right" you're talking about? Because, Communists damn sure don't care about you if you've become unproductive to the commune.

I can only speak for myself as a Conservative. I want John Henry to be cared for, either through his private sector insurance or through Medicare benefits he paid into his whole life. Furthermore, I want his life to have value and quality, even after he has passed his prime. I know capitalist entrepreneurs who are in their 90s.... it's a beautiful thing. They've used their minds, their ingenuity, their talents, their life-long wisdom, and continue to contribute in their own way to society.

sorry, it is if it is funded by the Peoples' tax monies it is Socialism not Capitalism, dear.

No, that is a meme Socialists repeat mindlessly. Under that same criteria, the existence of authority or government of any kind is also "socialist". A representative republican system is "socialist" if all we are considering is the basic concept in raw form. The board of directors and structural authority of any capitalist corporation can be said to be a "socialist" system.

Yes, Firms are merely "authoritarian micro-States" and not necessarily, Individual in Nature, nor Nurture, for juridical purposes.

True capitalism involves those Individuals with the most gold making the most rules; thus, even democracy is a form of Socialism due the concept of equality regardless of capital, under our form of capitalism.

Problem is, that is not what intelligent people are referring to when they contemplate "socialist government" or a "socialist economic system."

True capitalism may involve individuals with the most gold making the most rules but they can do all that they want and free market capitalism doesn't function without a consumer. In a true socialist system, the same individuals with the most gold mandate the rules and shoot you in the head if you disagree because they also have all the guns.

which intelligent people are those? socialism starts with a social Contract.

nothing but propaganda and rhetoric; how intelligent is that.

 

[Boss]

which intelligent people are those? socialism starts with a social Contract.

nothing but propaganda and rhetoric; how intelligent is that.

Not very, that's why I wonder how you can spend so much time trying to convey it?

Socialism doesn't start with a contract, it starts with a death warrant.

 

[danielpalos]

simple fallacies and you expect to be taken seriously?

how intelligent is that.

socialism starts with a social Contract such as our Constitution for our Body politic.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

socialism starts with a social Contract such as our Constitution for our Body politic.

100% perfect idiot illiterate liberal has no idea that our Constitution supports capitalism not socialism.

 

[Boss]

socialism starts with a social Contract such as our Constitution for our Body politic.

No it doesn't. How can there be any kind of contract when one party holds all fiduciary power? It would be like me making a contract with my dog. There is no recourse for the dog if I break the contract and I can't do much about him breaking the contract either.

Socialism starts with a promise. That promise is never fulfilled. There is a reason your best examples of Socialist government are isolated and small European countries with virtually no immigration. It fails everywhere else. It always has and it always will. Oh, it can function for 40, 50, 60 years... but it can't compete with free market western capitalism. It never fulfills the promise.

When Socialist government start to go down the tubes is when we see unspeakable horrors. Thousands are sent to die in wars of aggression created primarily for that cause. Thousands more are simply rounded up and executed because they can no longer be cared for. Still thousands more will die of starvation and disease as their ruler lives in opulence.

 

[danielpalos]

socialism starts with a social Contract such as our Constitution for our Body politic.

100% perfect idiot illiterate liberal has no idea that our Constitution supports capitalism not socialism.

dear; socialism is what the strings of words on the social contract say it is. it really is that simple. If there is not capital consideration to qualify for a capital contract, it must, perforce, be a social contract.

 

[danielpalos]

No it doesn't. How can there be any kind of contract when one party holds all fiduciary power? It would be like me making a contract with my dog. There is no recourse for the dog if I break the contract and I can't do much about him breaking the contract either.

Socialism starts with a promise. That promise is never fulfilled. There is a reason your best examples of Socialist government are isolated and small European countries with virtually no immigration. It fails everywhere else. It always has and it always will. Oh, it can function for 40, 50, 60 years... but it can't compete with free market western capitalism. It never fulfills the promise.

When Socialist government start to go down the tubes is when we see unspeakable horrors. Thousands are sent to die in wars of aggression created primarily for that cause. Thousands more are simply rounded up and executed because they can no longer be cared for. Still thousands more will die of starvation and disease as their ruler lives in opulence.


Yes, it does. Socialism must start with a social contract for political animals.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

dear; socialism is what the strings of words on the social contract say it is.

yes and our social contract, the Constitution, says it is about capitalism, not socialism.
Why do you think our liberals spied for Stalin?

 

[danielpalos]

dear; socialism is what the strings of words on the social contract say it is.

yes and our social contract, the Constitution, says it is about capitalism, not socialism.
Why do you think our liberals spied for Stalin?

dear, our Constitution is Socialism bailing out Capitalism, like usual.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

dear; socialism is what the strings of words on the social contract say it is.

yes and our social contract, the Constitution, says it is about capitalism, not socialism.
Why do you think our liberals spied for Stalin?

dear, our Constitution is Socialism bailing out Capitalism, like usual.

like usual like when China just eliminated 40% of world poverty by switched to capitalism??

 

[danielpalos]

socialism starts with a social Contract such as our Constitution for our Body politic.

100% perfect idiot illiterate liberal has no idea that our Constitution supports capitalism not socialism.

dear; socialism is what the strings of words on the social contract say it is.

yes and our social contract, the Constitution, says it is about capitalism, not socialism.
Why do you think our liberals spied for Stalin?

dear, our Constitution is Socialism bailing out Capitalism, like usual.

like usual like when China just eliminated 40% of world poverty by switched to capitalism??

dear the socialism of our social contract is what bails out capitalism and the largest political-economy in the world

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

socialism starts with a social Contract such as our Constitution for our Body politic.

100% perfect idiot illiterate liberal has no idea that our Constitution supports capitalism not socialism.

dear; socialism is what the strings of words on the social contract say it is.

yes and our social contract, the Constitution, says it is about capitalism, not socialism.
Why do you think our liberals spied for Stalin?

dear, our Constitution is Socialism bailing out Capitalism, like usual.

like usual like when China just eliminated 40% of world poverty by switched to capitalism??

dear the socialism of our social contract is what bails out capitalism and the largest political-economy in the world

like usual like when China just eliminated 40% of world poverty by switching to capitalism??

 

[danielpalos]

socialism starts with a social Contract such as our Constitution for our Body politic.

100% perfect idiot illiterate liberal has no idea that our Constitution supports capitalism not socialism.

dear; socialism is what the strings of words on the social contract say it is.

yes and our social contract, the Constitution, says it is about capitalism, not socialism.
Why do you think our liberals spied for Stalin?

dear, our Constitution is Socialism bailing out Capitalism, like usual.

like usual like when China just eliminated 40% of world poverty by switched to capitalism??

dear the socialism of our social contract is what bails out capitalism and the largest political-economy in the world

like usual like when China just eliminated 40% of world poverty by switching to capitalism??

Dear, are you claiming Chinese socialism is more capital than US socialism.

 

[sealybobo]

I would rather pay $200 bucks for a pair of levis made by an American worker, then the paper thin ones they sell today for $60 bucks.

The true cost of Made in the USA Levi s 178 GlobalPost

Someone on a talk show pointed out how companies don't pass on all the savings they get when they buy from china. The CEO keeps it.

And just because they have to pay $140 more for pants doesn't mean they will necessarily raise the price $140 because we may not buy the product at that price.

So the only ones who get hurt are the CEO and shareholders. They won't make as much as they would like.

But the Americans making the jeans will make a living and this will fix America.

Poor people will fix the economy when they have money in their pockets. Demand is what will fix this mess. Giving Nike CEO another million dollar bonus won't.

 

[danielpalos]

Unemployment compensation whenever labor can claim to unemployed can also, easily solve that problem.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

We keep hearing about this "widening gap between rich and poor" which has been the nucleus of an ongoing argument for higher wages, living wages, increasing the minimum wage, more taxation on "the wealthy" or whatever. They come armed with graphs and charts... the statistics to show you the middle class is in decline... the wealthy continue to amass great fortunes while the poor struggle to survive. Our hearts bleed as we're lectured on how we need more government regulations, more agencies and programs, more forced wage hikes and mandates, more restrictions and regulations heaped on big business in order to force them to pay up!

The problem is, we're hearing this from morons who don't understand how free market capitalism works. Oh, not all of them are illiterate morons, some have read books by European socialist propagandists and think they have everything all figured out. They don't seem to understand socialism doesn't work in practice like it works on paper. Every significant sized Socialist nation has failed and most of them have failed hideously. The ideas of people like Marx and Mao are responsible for ten's of millions of deaths. It is clearly a failed ideology by every standard.

Let's first dispatch a few myths and misconceptions. Wealthy people tend to gain wealth faster than poor people because they have a propensity for wealth acquisition... it's how they became wealthy for the most part. So it is perfectly natural in a free market capitalist system for the wealthiest to gain wealth faster than everyone else. It's like having a marathon race where there are runners who are seasoned veteran marathoners, runners who are couch potatoes, and some who run for the fun of it.... Now, in an actual race, who would you expect to lead and eventually win? The couch potato? Of course not... the seasoned vets are constantly going to gain more ground than the couch potatoes... that's perfectly natural and expected. The solution to the problem is not to hobble the veterans so they don't run as fast... the better idea would be to motivate the couch potatoes... train them up... make them better able to compete... turn them into veteran runners.

So this is where the idea of increasing their wages comes... but it's not as simple as merely passing some legislation that corporations MUST pay people $X per hour... that does not work in free market capitalism. What happens is, everything is on a sliding scale, so people make more but things cost more... so very shortly, we are back to square one. So come on Boss... get to the point... how do we increase the rate of pay for the average American in the average job without disrupting free market capitalism or causing inflation?

In order to increase pay you have to increase the demand for labor. In order to do that, you have to create new jobs. Not just new service sector, minimum wage, government or part-time jobs... but real, good paying, legitimate jobs. The way to do that is to encourage expansion of business... this requires taking several steps... lower taxes on corporations... or eliminate corporate tax altogether. Offer tax incentives for repatriated wealth... we have over $20 trillion in US wealth abroad... not doing us a bit of good. Let's bring it home and put it to work creating new business and new jobs. Finally, our trade deals need to account for the disparity in cost of labor. We can't compete with countries who pay their workers $1 a day and a bowl of rice... unless that's the standard we want to live with ourselves. Our trade policies have to take this into consideration and we have to apply tougher tariffs on import goods so our American companies can again compete domestically.

For example, let's use a computer keyboard... If you go to the store today to buy one, you will likely pay around $20 for a standard keyboard which is probably made in Indonesia. Now... An American company, with American workers and paying American taxes, can't buy the materials and assemble said keyboard for $20, much less sell it for that and make a profit. A similar American-made keyboard would be probably $40 or more. So if you have the choice to buy the same keyboard for $20 or $40... which would you likely purchase? Most people aren't going to care about where it's made, money is the deciding factor. However... IF you applied a tariff on Indonesian keyboards of say, $10 each... then the price of the Indonesian keyboard is $30 and the US company has the opportunity to compete... they cut some corners use some competitive ingenuity and manage to whittle their price down to $35... now you have a choice between a cheaply-made Indonesian keyboard for $30 or one that is built to last by Americans for $35. Some will still pick the cheaper keyboard but some will go with the quality.

Now my example is a little exaggerated, we'd never apply a 50% tariff on something... but the point is making imports more expensive so that American companies can compete again. When we change this dynamic, jobs will begin to generate as a result.. more jobs = more demand for labor = higher wages.

Seeking employment because of the pay is the problem right there. Do whatever you enjoy or at actually good at and the pay becomes an afterthought.