So the taliban is making the rules now

[kaz]

Your complaint is that Joe is following a plan and agreement setup by Trump...

Could you please tell us how you would handle this differently?

Another Democrat liar. None of this was in Trump's plan.

And also, liar, Trump's plan ended when the Taliban violated it.

This is on Joe Biden, you're just a pathetic Jonestown sheep fighting to be first in line

 

[easyt65]

Guess who let the Taiban leader out of jail after the CIA and afghanis captured him?

Then-Secretary of State Mike Pompeo defended the agreement, saying, “It was time, and the Taliban knew it was time."

From prison to power: Taliban leaders go from jail, to negotiating table, to Kabul

Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar Akhund returned to Afghanistan after nearly two decades on Tuesday, a reversal of fortune that saw him go from Taliban co-founder to prisoner in Pakistan to negotiator in Qatar to a now-central figure in Kabul.

news.yahoo.com

And I agree with Mike

It was a bad decision....much like how Barry relesased the top 5 Taliban Tribal terrorist leaders.....

Sort of like Biden's decision to bail out of Afghanistan the way he did, enabling the Taliban to release every rabid, vile terrorist being held by the Afghans.

 

[schmidlap]

If the Taliban kills Maize then it is a victory.

Persisting in throwing billions at Afghanistan and sacrificing American lives to prop up a corrupt and incompetent sham of a government and readily collapsible military had run its disastrous course long enough.

For years as a reality TV star, Trump demanded that the United States leave Afghanistan. Among other things, he said that the U.S. had “wasted an enormous amount of blood and treasure” and “wasted lives” there, that the war was “nonsense!”

His assessment was spot on, as seconded by a U.S. marine captain who should know:

I served in Afghanistan as a US Marine, twice. Here’s the truth in two sentences​

What we are seeing in Afghanistan right now shouldn’t shock you. It only seems that way because our institutions are steeped in systematic dishonesty. It doesn’t require a dissertation to explain what you’re seeing. Just two sentences.​

​

One: For 20 years, politicians, elites and D.C. military leaders lied to us about Afghanistan.​

​

Two: What happened last week was inevitable, and anyone saying differently is still lying to you.​

I served in Afghanistan as a US Marine, twice. Here’s the truth in two sentences

This veteran and Missouri U.S. Senate candidate saw what the Afghan National Security Forces really were. | Opinion

news.yahoo.com

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For 20 years, the proper time for withdrawal from Afghanistan has remained the same: ASAP!

 

[LaDairis]

Barry relesased the top 5 Taliban Tribal terrorist leaders.

LOL!!!!

Equivocating about the cowardly closeted compromised communist Kenyan Cocksucker in Chief....

Good grief....


When W decided not to help The Northern Alliance help win the Afghan Civil War against Taliban, how did YOU react???


A: YEAH YEAH YEAH, FUCK TNA, Master ISRAEL does not like them, because ISRAEL LOVES THE TALIBAN AND WANTS THEM IN CONTROL....

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED thanks to W, sold out lying left wing treasonous SACK OF SHIT you LOVE

 

[LaDairis]

“wasted an enormous amount of blood and treasure” and “wasted lives” there, that the war was “nonsense!”

That was 100% pure truth from a President who READ the FBI 911 file....


Did you cheer when W made "Osama" "not a priority?"

 

[struth]

A Pontius Pilate policy that the Former Guy had stridently opposed for many, many years, but reverted to during the four years he had the opportunity to make good on his oft-hyperbolic insistence upon immediate withdrawal.

Finally, in February 2020, the Trump administration and the Taliban signed an agreement that called for all U.S. troops to be out of Afghanistan by May of this year.

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Trump praised the President's August withdrawal, but whined that what he had advocated for so many years should have been done sooner.

Trump calls Biden's Afghanistan withdrawal "wonderful" and "positive"​

but criticized the timeline and said the U.S. "should get out earlier."​

The Biden administration is now trying to mitigate the consequences of Pompeo's deal with the Taliban:

CIA Director William Burns met Taliban leader Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar in Kabul on Monday...​

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[T]e most pressing issue is whether the U.S. airlift operation at the Kabul airport will continue beyond the Aug. 31 deadline.​

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While news of the Burns-Baradar meeting came as a surprise, the U.S. and the Taliban are in regular contact and have a number of issues to work out.​

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The CIA Chief And Taliban Leader Meet As Taliban Hold Firm Against Extending Deadline

The talks between CIA Director William Burns and Taliban leader Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar come as an Aug. 31 deadline looms for the end of the U.S. airlift and withdrawal of U.S. forces.

www.npr.org

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Yep, Trump was working to get our troops out. Sadly, he didn't win re-election, or his plan would have been in place....and frankly we wouldn't of left, given that the Taliban didn't follow it, or meet any of it's conditions.

Or maybe they would have, given that they actually feared President Trump

I think we all praised the idea that we were getting out, but we were being lied to by Xiden about the intel that he had, had we known what he knew, nobody would have supported handing the country off to the Taliban, or pulling troops out without securing our allies and civilians.

So, please stop with this deflection...it's been debunked numerous times.

Xiden even admitted that the Trump plan had nothing to do with what he did

Biden: I would have sought Afghanistan withdrawal even without Trump’s Taliban deal

The president’s acknowledgment comes after he has argued his hands were tied by the previous administration’s agreement.

www.politico.com

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President Joe Biden revealed in a new interview that he still would have sought to pull American forces out of Afghanistan even if former President Donald Trump had not struck a deal with the Taliban last year that paved the way for an eventual U.S. troop withdrawal.

“I would have tried to figure out how to withdraw those troops, yes,” Biden told ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos in an interview conducted Wednesday. Segments of the interview aired Wednesday on ABC’s “World News Tonight” and Thursday on “Good Morning America.”

The president’s acknowledgment comes after he and top aides have argued the White House’s hands were tied by the Trump-era agreement — brokered last February in Doha, Qatar — saying it forced Biden to follow through on a full-scale Afghanistan withdrawal in his opening months in office.

But Biden’s latest statement that he would have pursued a pullout of U.S. troops regardless of Trump’s negotiations with the Taliban complicates the current administration’s argument for its own withdrawal order.

 

[easyt65]

Maybe we will learn our lesson this time:

The US attacked the Taliban / invaded Afghanistan because it was an ISIS stronghold, & ISIS perpetrated 9/11. The United States successfully kicked ISIS and Taliban Ass....

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED - GTFO!

Ummm....NO. We started 'NATION BUILDING'.

20 years later the military is hold-up in an International airport surrounded by the Taliban, Al Qaeda, and ISIS...we have 6 days to get every American out of Afghanistan, none of them can make it to the airport, our military in not going to get them, & our President has told them they are on their on.

 

[22lcidw]

A statement that could have been made at virtually any time during the past twenty years of squandered treasure, sacrificed lives, and blatant lies - the reasons that Trump had constantly railed that immediate withdrawal was imperative (except for the four years that he actually had the power to do it.)

His conviction that he failed to act upon is hardly unique:

I served in Afghanistan as a US Marine, twice. Here’s the truth in two sentences​

What we are seeing in Afghanistan right now shouldn’t shock you. It only seems that way because our institutions are steeped in systematic dishonesty. It doesn’t require a dissertation to explain what you’re seeing. Just two sentences.​

​

One: For 20 years, politicians, elites and D.C. military leaders lied to us about Afghanistan.​

​

Two: What happened last week was inevitable, and anyone saying differently is still lying to you.​

​

I served in Afghanistan as a US Marine, twice. Here’s the truth in two sentences

This veteran and Missouri U.S. Senate candidate saw what the Afghan National Security Forces really were. | Opinion

news.yahoo.com

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HR McMaster, one of Donald Trump’s former national security advisers,
has condemned the deal struck with the Taliban during the previous
administration as a “surrender agreement”.​

“Our secretary of state [Mike Pompeo] signed a surrender agreement with the Taliban,” Mr McMaster said

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In November 2020 in Qatar, the Taliban’s de facto leader and chief negotiator, Abdul Ghani Baradar, had reached an agreement with Trump Secretary of State on the withdrawal of U.S. forces.

Conservative columnist Max Boot noted that it was the Trump regime that designed this exit strategy, and lauded it until the last moment. “We are now being treated to the contemptible spectacle of people who sent the airplane into a nosedive complaining about the resulting crash."

Trump. on April 18, 2021: "Getting out of Afghanistan is a wonderful and positive thing to do. I planned to withdraw on May 1st, and we should keep as close to that schedule as possible." On June 26, Trump boasted, "I started the process. All the troops are coming back home. They couldn't stop the process. Twenty-one years is enough, don't we think?"

Boot observed, “not only did he oversee the negotiations with the Taliban, Pompeo convinced Pakistan to release from prison Abdul Ghani Baradar, Afghanistan's new president, to serve as an interlocutor. Pompeo met with Baradar last year and bragged about it on his Twitter feed, thereby legitimating the Taliban and disheartening the Afghan military."

In July, Pompeo was eager to "applaud" the withdrawal, saying he wanted '"the Afghans to take up the fight for themselves."

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What makes no sense is that people who served there like you are Progressive Socialist Communists. For the most part, people become slightly conservative at least when they see reality. Anyway, I will not care if blue cities are vaporized.

 

[easyt65]

That was 100% pure truth from a President who READ the FBI 911 file....


Did you cheer when W made "Osama" "not a priority?"

Usama Bin Laden was a figure-head hold up in a small home in Pakistan, not to say he was not an important target, but not more important that Zarqawi and the actual terrorist army. In the end it was the Intel team and the group W put together that found UBL...and it took the new President being asked 3 times if we could go get him before he said 'Yes'.

 

[LaDairis]

The US attacked the Taliban / invaded Afghanistan because it was an ISIS stronghold, & ISIS perpetrated 9/11.

ISIS did 911 now.

The terrorists
The terrorists
The terrorists


Funny, I do not remember your heroes W and Cheney claiming ISIS was the reason, or a reason.... ISIS first appeared WHEN.... when Simon Elliot got dressed up....

Notice the ROLEX bling, not allowed under ISLAM.... ooops...

 

[schmidlap]

That was 100% pure truth from a President who READ the FBI 911 file....


Did you cheer when W made "Osama" "not a priority?"

The Taliban, as noxious a bunch as they are, never threatened the United States. Dubya's invasion and military occupation proved every bit as disastrous and as difficult to escape from as knowledgeable folks expected.

In October 1963, when Harold Macmillan was handing over the prime ministership to Alec Douglas-Home:
"My dear boy, as long as you do not invade Afghanistan you will be absolutely fine!"​

 

[kaz]

Persisting in throwing billions at Afghanistan and sacrificing American lives to prop up a corrupt and incompetent sham of a government and readily collapsible military had run its disastrous course long enough.

For years as a reality TV star, Trump demanded that the United States leave Afghanistan. Among other things, he said that the U.S. had “wasted an enormous amount of blood and treasure” and “wasted lives” there, that the war was “nonsense!”

His assessment was spot on, as seconded by a U.S. marine captain who should know:

I served in Afghanistan as a US Marine, twice. Here’s the truth in two sentences​

What we are seeing in Afghanistan right now shouldn’t shock you. It only seems that way because our institutions are steeped in systematic dishonesty. It doesn’t require a dissertation to explain what you’re seeing. Just two sentences.​

​

One: For 20 years, politicians, elites and D.C. military leaders lied to us about Afghanistan.​

​

Two: What happened last week was inevitable, and anyone saying differently is still lying to you.​

I served in Afghanistan as a US Marine, twice. Here’s the truth in two sentences

This veteran and Missouri U.S. Senate candidate saw what the Afghan National Security Forces really were. | Opinion

news.yahoo.com

​

​

For 20 years, the proper time for withdrawal from Afghanistan has remained the same: ASAP!

Another from the TDS crowd proving Kaz's Law.

Joe Biden is a dufus, this is on him. No one made him fall on this sword, he did it himself by making stupid decisions

 

[easyt65]

When W decided not to help The Northern Alliance help win the Afghan Civil War against Taliban, how did YOU react???

I was angry, like those with me who fought beside the Kurds. There is a difference between the military and politicians. WE don't get to make the decisions...if we did, there would be a lot less f*-ups, a lot less body bags, and a lot less wars.

Congress should pass a law dictating that the politicians who begin a war should be the 1s tones to man he front lines.....that would also prevent a lot of wars.

 

[TheParser]

The Taliban is drawing red lines now, says it will 'provoke a reaction' if US seeks more time for evacuations

twitchy.com

Not Bidumb, they will dictate what will happen next.

That's right.

The Administration says that the United States of America must go with hat in hand to the Taliban and humbly & meekly say: "Oh, dear Taliban. Would you be gracious enough to let us evacuate all Americans -- even after August 31? If not, we will understand, and we will quietly leave with our tails between our legs."

 

[LaDairis]

it was the Intel team and the group W put together that found UBL.

LOL!!!!


Did or did not W make "Osama" "not a priority?"


As for the plastic head dumped at the bottom of the ocean.... laughable.

Whether or not Col Tim Osman is still alive is unknown. The one thing for certain is that the cowardly closeted compromised communist Kenyan Cocksucker in Chief did not "get him."

This is Col Tim Osman, CIA/Mossad double agent, before he became "Osama"

 

[easyt65]

The Taliban, as noxious a bunch as they are, never threatened the United States. Dubya's invasion and military occupation proved every bit as disastrous and as difficult to escape from as knowledgeable folks expected.

In October 1963, when Harold Macmillan was handing over the prime ministership to Alec Douglas-Home:
"My dear boy, as long as you do not invade Afghanistan you will be absolutely fine!"​

HISTORY had already demonstrated that, but those who do not study history and learn from it are bound to repeat the mistakes of the past.

 

[LaDairis]

I was angry, like those with me who fought beside the Kurds. There is a difference between the military and politicians. WE don't get to make the decisions...if we did, there would be a lot less f*-ups, a lot less body bags, and a lot less wars.

Congress should pass a law dictating that the politicians who begin a war should be the 1s tones to man he front lines.....that would also prevent a lot of wars.

Did you ever ask WHY W did that?

I think you are making it up as you go, trying to "whack a mole" every time another piece of evidence supports the truth that W is


THE WORST TRAITOR IN US HISTORY

and you LOVED HIM.

 

[schmidlap]

What makes no sense is that people who served there like you are Progressive Socialist Communists. For the most part, people become slightly conservative at least when they see reality. Anyway, I will not care if blue cities are vaporized.

Your hyper-partisan perfidy aside, what evacuation provisions did Trump's Secretary of State specify in his deal with the Taliban to withdraw all U.S. forces by May 1?

 

[easyt65]

LOL!!!!


Did or did not W make "Osama" "not a priority?"


As for the plastic head dumped at the bottom of the ocean.... laughable.

Whether or not Col Tim Osman is still alive is unknown. The one thing for certain is that the cowardly closeted compromised communist Kenyan Cocksucker in Chief did not "get him."

This is Col Tim Osman, CIA/Mossad double agent, before he became "Osama"

Plastic head.....ahhhh...the extremely rare 'Left Wing Conspiracy Theorist.

 

[iceberg]

The loser of the war never gets to dictate conditions. Just like Viet Nam. The losers don't dictate terms to the winners. Never gonna happen.

YOU LOST.

so, YOU WON?

you're taliban?

it all makes sense now.