So the man who said Obamacare passed due to "basically the stupidity of the American voter"...

[healthmyths]

Remember when the architect hired by Obama to design Obamacare told us:
"Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage,” Gruber said. "And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical for the thing to pass."
Gruber made the comment while discussing how the law was "written in a tortured way" to avoid a bad score from the Congressional Budget Office. He suggested that voters would have rejected ObamaCare if the penalties for going without health insurance were interpreted as taxes, either by budget analysts or the public.
ObamaCare architect: 'Stupidity' of voters helped bill pass

Now Gruber says 63% of Obamacare enrollment came from people eligible BEFORE Obamacare!
Gruber and his coauthors, using data from the Census Bureau, estimate that Medicaid “produced 63% of the gains [in coverage] that we identified” for 2014.
They also found that much of this gain was attributable to the enrollment in Medicaid of people who were eligible for the program under criteria that preceded the ACA’s Medicaid expansion: Perhaps less obviously, we also found a substantial increase in Medicaid coverage among children and adults who were already eligible for the program before 2014. This population accounted for 44% of the coverage increase.
New Gruber Study Raises Major Questions About Obamacare's Medicaid Expansion
ACA Enrollment Final Numbers for 2017—A Cautionary Tale for Trump and Republicans | THCB

FOLKS REMEMBER this document I've put up clearly identifying there NEVER WERE 46 million uninsured Americans???
FALSEHOOD 2)... 14 million were eligible for MEDICAID!!!!

So folks. If Politifact said Obama was sloppy counting 10 million illegals and now Gruber says 14 million were already eligible for Medicaid BEFORE Obamacare... what does that leave us to prove I was right?

hmmm.... Medical savings accounts! Yea that's the ticket!
Washington, D.C. – Nearly 19.7 million Americans are covered by Health Savings Account (HSA)-eligible insurance plans, an increase of approximately 2 million enrollees since January 2014, according to a new census released today by America’s Health Insurance Plans (AHIP).
New Census Survey Shows Continued Growth in HSA Enrollment - AHIP

Hmmm... nearly 20 million and what was the number of people that didn't want under age 34...hmmm
oh yea... 18 million. Strange interesting correlation here wouldn't you think..

 

[Jackson]

Well done, healthmyths! Unfortunately, the really stupid people, some call them liberals, will not take the time to read your post and get educated. They love to follow the other sheep with blinders on.

It was an excellent post!

 

[DJT for Life]

CBO said 22 mil will be uninsured by 2026 if the new GOP plan is passed.

'Course, after further review, they reported that 15 mil will drop out in 2018,
because they won't be required to have it.

AND, people using the ER for common ailments is up 9%. So getting the
liteweights Insurance wasn't that big a deal, because they cannot afford the
copay and still continue to use the ER.

Just repeal the bill and put it back like it was before 2010 and the vast, vast
majority of Americans will be happy.

 

[BluesLegend]

I don't know why anyone is surprise that the elite liberal politicians mock their own base, they are assholes.

 

[Manonthestreet]

I Gruber you
You Gruberee
You always Gruber so easily

 

[healthmyths]

As Jackson pointed out Obama supporters are like sheep just following the next sheep which after these many years I find the word "sheep" interesting.
See the word "sheep" means either one sheep or many sheep! It doesn't make a difference ...1 sheep is the same as a herd of sheep!
To think these sheep agree.."the stupidity of the American voter" by their shepherds which labeled them as "stupid" don't seem to do any research to validate
their comments which hurts all of us by the way. These sheep take statements like "23 million will lose" and never investigate. More sheep are then polled
by biased MSM then thinking people, and these results are read by other "sheep" i.e. politicians who then vote for legislation without as their shepherds told them..
"Pelosi: "We Have to Pass the Bill So That You Can Find Out What Is In It" Fortunately there were NO GOP that voted for Obamacare and it narrowly passed
by 7 sheep voters! 219 yes : 212 NO... Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act - Wikipedia
And this is the consequences to all us non-sheep! We are ALL penalized.

 

[The Original Tree]

Look at Health Care Industry Profits, Insurance Industry Profits. Obamacare basically let Health Care Insurance Corporations Gouge People, but then, people didn't want to participate in Obamacare because of the expense. Who would pay $25,000 a year for health care? That was the cost to some families, so millions opted to pay the fine instead.

This was a Trillion Dollar Program that covered only an additional 2% of the population at an unreasonable expense to the taxpayer and Working Poor.

If "Health Care" is a "Right" then how come you have to mandate people participate in it, and purchase it?

Freedom of Religion is a "RIGHT". Yet I don't see the Government Mandating that every American Go to Church and be forced to make donations to The Church and be fined if they don't.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Remember when the architect hired by Obama to design Obamacare told us:
"Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage,” Gruber said. "And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical for the thing to pass."
Gruber made the comment while discussing how the law was "written in a tortured way" to avoid a bad score from the Congressional Budget Office. He suggested that voters would have rejected ObamaCare if the penalties for going without health insurance were interpreted as taxes, either by budget analysts or the public.
ObamaCare architect: 'Stupidity' of voters helped bill pass

Now Gruber says 63% of Obamacare enrollment came from people eligible BEFORE Obamacare!
Gruber and his coauthors, using data from the Census Bureau, estimate that Medicaid “produced 63% of the gains [in coverage] that we identified” for 2014.
They also found that much of this gain was attributable to the enrollment in Medicaid of people who were eligible for the program under criteria that preceded the ACA’s Medicaid expansion: Perhaps less obviously, we also found a substantial increase in Medicaid coverage among children and adults who were already eligible for the program before 2014. This population accounted for 44% of the coverage increase.
New Gruber Study Raises Major Questions About Obamacare's Medicaid Expansion
ACA Enrollment Final Numbers for 2017—A Cautionary Tale for Trump and Republicans | THCB

FOLKS REMEMBER this document I've put up clearly identifying there NEVER WERE 46 million uninsured Americans???
FALSEHOOD 2)... 14 million were eligible for MEDICAID!!!!

So folks. If Politifact said Obama was sloppy counting 10 million illegals and now Gruber says 14 million were already eligible for Medicaid BEFORE Obamacare... what does that leave us to prove I was right?

hmmm.... Medical savings accounts! Yea that's the ticket!
Washington, D.C. – Nearly 19.7 million Americans are covered by Health Savings Account (HSA)-eligible insurance plans, an increase of approximately 2 million enrollees since January 2014, according to a new census released today by America’s Health Insurance Plans (AHIP).
New Census Survey Shows Continued Growth in HSA Enrollment - AHIP

Hmmm... nearly 20 million and what was the number of people that didn't want under age 34...hmmm
oh yea... 18 million. Strange interesting correlation here wouldn't you think..
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So are you defending or attacking the GOP's non-transparent healthcare bill that only 20% of Americans support?

 

[healthmyths]

Remember when the architect hired by Obama to design Obamacare told us:
"Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage,” Gruber said. "And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical for the thing to pass."
Gruber made the comment while discussing how the law was "written in a tortured way" to avoid a bad score from the Congressional Budget Office. He suggested that voters would have rejected ObamaCare if the penalties for going without health insurance were interpreted as taxes, either by budget analysts or the public.
ObamaCare architect: 'Stupidity' of voters helped bill pass

Now Gruber says 63% of Obamacare enrollment came from people eligible BEFORE Obamacare!
Gruber and his coauthors, using data from the Census Bureau, estimate that Medicaid “produced 63% of the gains [in coverage] that we identified” for 2014.
They also found that much of this gain was attributable to the enrollment in Medicaid of people who were eligible for the program under criteria that preceded the ACA’s Medicaid expansion: Perhaps less obviously, we also found a substantial increase in Medicaid coverage among children and adults who were already eligible for the program before 2014. This population accounted for 44% of the coverage increase.
New Gruber Study Raises Major Questions About Obamacare's Medicaid Expansion
ACA Enrollment Final Numbers for 2017—A Cautionary Tale for Trump and Republicans | THCB

FOLKS REMEMBER this document I've put up clearly identifying there NEVER WERE 46 million uninsured Americans???
FALSEHOOD 2)... 14 million were eligible for MEDICAID!!!!

So folks. If Politifact said Obama was sloppy counting 10 million illegals and now Gruber says 14 million were already eligible for Medicaid BEFORE Obamacare... what does that leave us to prove I was right?

hmmm.... Medical savings accounts! Yea that's the ticket!
Washington, D.C. – Nearly 19.7 million Americans are covered by Health Savings Account (HSA)-eligible insurance plans, an increase of approximately 2 million enrollees since January 2014, according to a new census released today by America’s Health Insurance Plans (AHIP).
New Census Survey Shows Continued Growth in HSA Enrollment - AHIP

Hmmm... nearly 20 million and what was the number of people that didn't want under age 34...hmmm
oh yea... 18 million. Strange interesting correlation here wouldn't you think..
View attachment 136117

So are you defending or attacking the GOP's non-transparent healthcare bill that only 20% of Americans support?

A) I DON'T believe anything you write as you pulled that 20% out of the air!
B) If it is a "polled" number I'm 100% sure that this is what was asked..."are you in favor of cutting Medicaid as the GOP bill will do"?

At first glance, the new pitch to make their strategy more palatable seems at odds with the numbers.
The Congressional Budget Office said on Monday that the “Better Care Reconciliation Act” would reduce Medicaid spending by $772 billion over a decade.
By 2026, Medicaid enrollment would drop by 16 percent among people under the age of 65.

At issue is whether the funding changes should be compared to the increases that would occur under current law, the Affordable Care Act, or whether the focus should be on the modest annual increases that would happen under the Republican bill.
Health Bill Does Not ‘Cut’ Medicaid Spending, Republicans Argue

OK NYcarbineer..going to shout now!!!

ONLY IN YOU and biased MSM eyes are REDUCTION IN GROWTH rates considered CUTS!
What are the so called "CUTS"???? Medicaid spending increases are reduced. Now I'm shouting!
DOESN'T GROW AS FAST AS IT DID UNDER OBAMACARE!
Those are NOT CUTS! Cuts mean when you reduce from one year to the next year for example Carbineer...
This is a cut: Your take home pay is $50,000 in 2017. Next year it will be $45,000! THAT is a cut.
BUT if your income in 2016 was $45,000 and increased to $50,000 in 2017,, But it didn't INCREASE by $5,000 but INCREASED by $2,500 IS THAT a CUT?
Of course in yours and the biased MSM eyes...
BUT THAT in reality is NOT A CUT!