So, Jones and AGW Theory was acquitted huh..

[L.K.Eder]

FUKUSUKE!

Description:
Fukusuke is attending a wedding reception. When congratulating the couple Fukusuke’s enormous head is causing a chaotic scene ruining the feast. The groom, a geisha holding a samisen and a child are quickly getting out of the way.
Bottom: four men are shaving Fukusuke’s enormous head.

Ah so the tool thinks his little pals will be able to save his ass?

HAHAHAAA!

SO ya like lame and obscure Japanese fairy tales? Did you hear the one about the douchebag named artikoski douchebagasaki?? who had no game so he let his friends do his fighting for him? They all followed him into the pit of despair where no one could hear them.. Sad tale of ignorant trolling that has a good moral to it.... Trolls go with no game are a waste space.... Join your friend...

When you two grow up and stop trolling i may hear you again.... Buh Bye now...

you aren't going anywhere. your head does not fit though the door and the firefighters won't help until they get the heavy equipment from the nearest big city.

gslack-fukusuke having trouble getting his enormous head through the door.

 

[Article 15]

FUKUSUKE!

Description:
Fukusuke is attending a wedding reception. When congratulating the couple Fukusuke’s enormous head is causing a chaotic scene ruining the feast. The groom, a geisha holding a samisen and a child are quickly getting out of the way.
Bottom: four men are shaving Fukusuke’s enormous head.

Ah so the tool thinks his little pals will be able to save his ass?

HAHAHAAA!

SO ya like lame and obscure Japanese fairy tales? Did you hear the one about the douchebag named artikoski douchebagasaki?? who had no game so he let his friends do his fighting for him? They all followed him into the pit of despair where no one could hear them.. Sad tale of ignorant trolling that has a good moral to it.... Trolls with no game go to the land of the lame.... Join your friend...

When you two grow up and stop trolling i may hear you again.... Buh Bye now...

This is what? The second or third time you said you were done?

You aren't going anywhere, Pyle.

 

[Article 15]

FUKUSUKE!

Description:
Fukusuke is attending a wedding reception. When congratulating the couple Fukusuke’s enormous head is causing a chaotic scene ruining the feast. The groom, a geisha holding a samisen and a child are quickly getting out of the way.
Bottom: four men are shaving Fukusuke’s enormous head.

Ah so the tool thinks his little pals will be able to save his ass?

HAHAHAAA!

SO ya like lame and obscure Japanese fairy tales? Did you hear the one about the douchebag named artikoski douchebagasaki?? who had no game so he let his friends do his fighting for him? They all followed him into the pit of despair where no one could hear them.. Sad tale of ignorant trolling that has a good moral to it.... Trolls go with no game are a waste space.... Join your friend...

When you two grow up and stop trolling i may hear you again.... Buh Bye now...

you aren't going anywhere. your head does not fit though the door and the firefighters won't help until they get the heavy equipment from the nearest big city.

gslack-fukusuke having trouble getting his enormous head through the door.

That's a head of gslack proportions!

 

[Old Rocks]

However, being totally empty, it is no strain on Suckeees....... back.

 

[gslack]

However, being totally empty, it is no strain on Suckeees....... back.

Aww you coming and crying about me again.. LOL seriously socks!

 

[bripat9643]

According to Lord Oxburgh...the Science was not the subject of their study. Go figure.

Oxburgh and the Jones Admission Climate Audit

Yes, they have been. And Steve McIntyre has shown himself to be an ass once again.

Is "ass" a euphemism that refers to anyone who tells the truth?

 

[RollingThunder]

According to Lord Oxburgh...the Science was not the subject of their study. Go figure.

Oxburgh and the Jones Admission Climate Audit

Yes, they have been. And Steve McIntyre has shown himself to be an ass once again.

Is "ass" a euphemism that refers to anyone who tells the truth?

No, it is your middle name, you silly retarded denier cult troll.

And BTW, anyone who hasn't noticed that the slack-jawed-idiot the walleyedretard are both clueless, anti-science, very ignorant, very moronic trolls mindlessly parroting denier cult drivel, just haven't been paying attention.

 

[skookerasbil]

Yes, they have been. And Steve McIntyre has shown himself to be an ass once again.

Is "ass" a euphemism that refers to anyone who tells the truth?

No, it is your middle name, you silly retarded denier cult troll.

And BTW, anyone who hasn't noticed that the slack-jawed-idiot the walleyedretard are both clueless, anti-science, very ignorant, very moronic trolls mindlessly parroting denier cult drivel, just haven't been paying attention.

Why Hasn’t The Earth Warmed In Nearly 15 Years? - Patrick Michaels - Climate of Fear - Forbes



Ooooooooops!!!

 

[skookerasbil]

The k00ks would have us believing that SUV's are the bane of our existence.

Until you realize that a long time ago, Antarctica was a tropical paradise............

When Antarctica was a tropical paradise | World news | The Observer


Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooops!!!

But who knows..........maybe back then, they were building some SUV prototypes and there were too many cows farting!!!

 

[skookerasbil]

 

[skookerasbil]

 

[Old Rocks]

Is "ass" a euphemism that refers to anyone who tells the truth?

No, it is your middle name, you silly retarded denier cult troll.

And BTW, anyone who hasn't noticed that the slack-jawed-idiot the walleyedretard are both clueless, anti-science, very ignorant, very moronic trolls mindlessly parroting denier cult drivel, just haven't been paying attention.

Why Hasn’t The Earth Warmed In Nearly 15 Years? - Patrick Michaels - Climate of Fear - Forbes



Ooooooooops!!!

Of course if you go to the site, it states that we are seeing a warming. Then claims that the warming is not what it should be and therefore shows that the influence of CO2 is overstated. There are a whole bunch of people in over half of the US that would argue the point at the moment.

Why Hasn’t The Earth Warmed In Nearly 15 Years? - Patrick Michaels - Climate of Fear - Forbes

So, if it is indeed sulfates cooling the warming, given that there is no net change in global temperature, then the northern hemisphere should be cooling since 1998 (the first year in Kaufmann’s paper) while the southern warms. Here are the sad facts:



The opposite is occurring. Why this test was not performed eludes me. Perhaps that is because it provides yet another piece of evidence supporting the hypothesis that we have simply overstated the sensitivity of surface temperature to changes in carbon dioxide

And this fellow ignores that fact that the Nothern Hemisphere is warming faster than the predictions. And, at present, by the sea ice, it appears that the Southern Hemisphere may now be responding in a more negative way to the warming.

 

[ScienceRocks]

The avg min to max solar cycle has .05c to .075c difference in global temperature between trough and ridge. 1999-2004, 1988-1994, were aided by the max, while 1995-1997, 2005-2010 deal with negative forcing.

One note: 1991-1993 had the effects of a vei 6 volcano and 2005-2010 are having the effects of the strongest solar minimum since 1908-1913. That dropped temperatures as much as .1 to .15c??? Respectable amount of negative forcing.

Not to even get into the sulfur problem. That a lot believe that the 1950-1970s were effected by it. .1c to .15c over 15-20 years and the start of this period had the highest tsi since the mid evil warm period.

Old rocks from 457 and 3 post below is my attempt at trying to figure out the real temperature! The last post on that page is my conclusion. This is pretty much 1999-2004 tsi without the enso effecting. You will find that 2010 was hardly effected by the nino that was within the early part as the nina canceled a crap load of it out. If we don't get a nino to cancel this nina out this year then this year will be effected 10 times more by the negative enso.
http://www.usmessageboard.com/environment/160278-more-record-temps-31.html

 

[gslack]

I guess to ask about the southern Hemisphere and take them into context to get a more global answer would be the craziest idea ever.... Yea, Yea the world is gonna be a huge fireball and we will all burn..

So lets move on to the bigger part of the thing now. Lets try and keep a global perspective when we talk about global climate shall we?

Ever heard about the sun flipping its poles? Well it does that from time to time and although the reason and explanation is very complex for the sake of brevity and simplicity lets just agree that it happens and did so last time around 2001. Heres a big shocker our planet flips its poles too. Ours is not as reliable in its timing as the suns is and happens generally around every 500,000 years or so. And its been guessed that about 750,000 years since the last one. When the Earth flips its poles, the magnetic field changes and becomes more complex and weaker. This can allow more solar radiation into the atmosphere. Now no one can really say what will exactly happen when this occurs again, but the scientists seem to think there is no cause for alarm. heres some more on it and follow the links for even more info.

The Sun Does a Flip - NASA Science

Thats from NASA before oldsocks calls the link a bogus oil shills link.

My point is, we are just finding all of this out. And in the greater scheme of things makes me beg the question what else aren't we aware of yet? Do we know and understand the workings of our planet and solar system enough yet to make bold statements and claims about climate change and particularly the amount a trace gas making up only 0.0387% by volume of atmosphere can and or how it may effect climate on a long term scale?

There is a whole universe out there we don't understand, and for anyone to make the claim climate change is caused by a trace gas based on circumstantial evidence at best, seems not only a bit premature but an example of bad science to boot.

Now just for one second think on a scale that is larger than your immediate fear and use your dam heads for something more than a bucket to hold BS in.

 

[RollingThunder]

I guess to ask about the southern Hemisphere and take them into context to get a more global answer would be the craziest idea ever.....

LOLOLOLOLOL.....ahhh...ol' slackjawed.....clueless as ever, I see....

You do, I hope, understand that the seasons are sort of reversed in the southern hemisphere due to axial tilt, so their 'summer' happened about five to eight months ago (Dec - Feb).

Exceptional Australian Heat Wave
NASA
February 11, 2009
(excerpts)

For those who track their local temperatures using the Celsius scale, 40 degrees is a daunting number. In early February 2009, residents of southeastern Australia were cringing at their weather forecasts, as predictions of temperatures above 40 degrees Celsius (104 degrees Fahrenheit) meant that a blistering heat wave was continuing.

This map of Australia shows how the land surface temperature from January 25 to February 1 compared to the average mid-summer temperatures the continent experienced between 2000-2008. Places where temperatures were warmer than average are red, places experiencing near-normal temperatures are white, and places where temperatures were cooler than average are blue. The data were collected by the MODIS on NASA's Terra satellite. While southern Australia was scorching, a similarly large area of northern and central Australia was several degrees cooler than it was in the previous nine years. The cool anomaly across that region is probably linked to the above-average rainfall the area has received during this year's wet season.

Land surface temperature is how hot the surface of the Earth would feel to the touch in a particular location. From a satellite's point of view, the "surface" is whatever it sees when it looks through the atmosphere to the ground. That could be the sand on a beach, the grass on a lawn, the roof of a building, or a paved road. Thus, daytime land surface temperature is often much higher than the air temperature that is included in the daily weather report (a fact that anyone who has walked barefoot across a parking lot on a summer afternoon could verify).

The Australian Bureau of Meteorology (BOM) called this heat wave "exceptional", not only for the high temperatures but for their duration. One-day records were broken in multiple cities, with temperatures in the mid-40s. In Kyancutta, South Australia, the temperature reached 48.2 degrees Celsius (118.8 degrees Fahrenheit). Many places also set records for the number of consecutive days with record-breaking heat.

Nighttime temperatures broke records, too. In their special statement on the heat wave, the BOM wrote, "On the morning of 29 January, an exceptional event also occurred in the northern suburbs of Adelaide around 3 a.m., when strong north-westerly winds mixed hot air aloft to the surface. At RAAF Edinburgh [a regional airport], the temperature rose to 41.7°C at 3:04 a.m. Such an event appears to be without known precedent in southern Australia."

***

South America hit by heat wave
Herald Sun
December 30, 2010

SCORCHING summer heat in South America is cutting harvest forecasts in one of the world's key farm belts. The heat wave has helped propel crop prices to two-year highs and is now fueling concerns about tight global supplies.

With temperatures reaching into the 90s, weather is also threatening crops in southern Brazil and Uruguay, which declared a state of emergency last week for farmers in the north of the country. The region's role in world food markets means any production problems there could be felt around the world.

 

[skookerasbil]

I guess to ask about the southern Hemisphere and take them into context to get a more global answer would be the craziest idea ever.....

LOLOLOLOLOL.....ahhh...ol' slackjawed.....clueless as ever, I see....

You do, I hope, understand that the seasons are sort of reversed in the southern hemisphere due to axial tilt, so their 'summer' happened about five to eight months ago (Dec - Feb).

Exceptional Australian Heat Wave
NASA
February 11, 2009
(excerpts)

For those who track their local temperatures using the Celsius scale, 40 degrees is a daunting number. In early February 2009, residents of southeastern Australia were cringing at their weather forecasts, as predictions of temperatures above 40 degrees Celsius (104 degrees Fahrenheit) meant that a blistering heat wave was continuing.

This map of Australia shows how the land surface temperature from January 25 to February 1 compared to the average mid-summer temperatures the continent experienced between 2000-2008. Places where temperatures were warmer than average are red, places experiencing near-normal temperatures are white, and places where temperatures were cooler than average are blue. The data were collected by the MODIS on NASA's Terra satellite. While southern Australia was scorching, a similarly large area of northern and central Australia was several degrees cooler than it was in the previous nine years. The cool anomaly across that region is probably linked to the above-average rainfall the area has received during this year's wet season.

Land surface temperature is how hot the surface of the Earth would feel to the touch in a particular location. From a satellite's point of view, the "surface" is whatever it sees when it looks through the atmosphere to the ground. That could be the sand on a beach, the grass on a lawn, the roof of a building, or a paved road. Thus, daytime land surface temperature is often much higher than the air temperature that is included in the daily weather report (a fact that anyone who has walked barefoot across a parking lot on a summer afternoon could verify).

The Australian Bureau of Meteorology (BOM) called this heat wave "exceptional", not only for the high temperatures but for their duration. One-day records were broken in multiple cities, with temperatures in the mid-40s. In Kyancutta, South Australia, the temperature reached 48.2 degrees Celsius (118.8 degrees Fahrenheit). Many places also set records for the number of consecutive days with record-breaking heat.

Nighttime temperatures broke records, too. In their special statement on the heat wave, the BOM wrote, "On the morning of 29 January, an exceptional event also occurred in the northern suburbs of Adelaide around 3 a.m., when strong north-westerly winds mixed hot air aloft to the surface. At RAAF Edinburgh [a regional airport], the temperature rose to 41.7°C at 3:04 a.m. Such an event appears to be without known precedent in southern Australia."

***

South America hit by heat wave
Herald Sun
December 30, 2010

SCORCHING summer heat in South America is cutting harvest forecasts in one of the world's key farm belts. The heat wave has helped propel crop prices to two-year highs and is now fueling concerns about tight global supplies.

With temperatures reaching into the 90s, weather is also threatening crops in southern Brazil and Uruguay, which declared a state of emergency last week for farmers in the north of the country. The region's role in world food markets means any production problems there could be felt around the world.

 

[konradv]

The k00ks would have us believing that SUV's are the bane of our existence.

Until you realize that a long time ago, Antarctica was a tropical paradise............

When Antarctica was a tropical paradise | World news | The Observer


Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooops!!!

But who knows..........maybe back then, they were building some SUV prototypes and there were too many cows farting!!!QUOTE]

What Oops? Excerpt from the cited article.

"Fifty five million years ago, there were more than 1,000 parts per million (ppm) of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere," said Professor Stephen Pekar, of City University of New York. "That heated the world enough to melt all its ice caps. Sea levels would have been almost 200ft higher than today. "At present, there are 390ppm of CO2 in the atmosphere, a rise – caused by emissions from power plants, factories and lorries – from preindustrial levels of around 280ppm. This has already raised global temperatures by almost 1C. At its present rate of increase – around 2ppm a year - it will still take a long time to reach 1,000ppm.
But we should take little comfort from that, added Pekar. "By the time we get to 500ppm we will start to see major melting of the ice caps."


The article lays out what can be expected, given AGW theory. Don't see how that hepls your side. So Antarctica was warmer, that's to be expected considering the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere. You actually totally ignored the the fact that might explain some of that heat, since you don't accept the CO2 line, i.e. Antarctica wasn't where it is today and ocean curreents tended to keep it warmer than they do today.

 

[Old Rocks]

I guess to ask about the southern Hemisphere and take them into context to get a more global answer would be the craziest idea ever.... Yea, Yea the world is gonna be a huge fireball and we will all burn..

So lets move on to the bigger part of the thing now. Lets try and keep a global perspective when we talk about global climate shall we?

Ever heard about the sun flipping its poles? Well it does that from time to time and although the reason and explanation is very complex for the sake of brevity and simplicity lets just agree that it happens and did so last time around 2001. Heres a big shocker our planet flips its poles too. Ours is not as reliable in its timing as the suns is and happens generally around every 500,000 years or so. And its been guessed that about 750,000 years since the last one. When the Earth flips its poles, the magnetic field changes and becomes more complex and weaker. This can allow more solar radiation into the atmosphere. Now no one can really say what will exactly happen when this occurs again, but the scientists seem to think there is no cause for alarm. heres some more on it and follow the links for even more info.

The Sun Does a Flip - NASA Science

Thats from NASA before oldsocks calls the link a bogus oil shills link.

My point is, we are just finding all of this out. And in the greater scheme of things makes me beg the question what else aren't we aware of yet? Do we know and understand the workings of our planet and solar system enough yet to make bold statements and claims about climate change and particularly the amount a trace gas making up only 0.0387% by volume of atmosphere can and or how it may effect climate on a long term scale?

There is a whole universe out there we don't understand, and for anyone to make the claim climate change is caused by a trace gas based on circumstantial evidence at best, seems not only a bit premature but an example of bad science to boot.

Now just for one second think on a scale that is larger than your immediate fear and use your dam heads for something more than a bucket to hold BS in.

G, you are showing what a dumb ass you truly are. The fact that the poles reverse has been known for at least 3/4 of a century. In fact, it was a major factor in demonstrating the spreading at the rift zones. It has been used to date fossils, and determine the position of land masses at those dates.

At no time have we seen anything in the fossil record to show that the flipping of the poles had any affect on the life on earth. In fact, it has been demonstrated by the strata in the Steens Mountain basalts that this is not a 'flip', but a disorderly process that takes a period of time.

As far as your statement concerning a 'trace gas', I guess that a similiar amount, percentage wise, of potassium cyanide surely cannot hurt you on the basis of your logic. Feel free to test out that hypothesis any time.

 

[Old Rocks]

The k00ks would have us believing that SUV's are the bane of our existence.

Until you realize that a long time ago, Antarctica was a tropical paradise............

When Antarctica was a tropical paradise | World news | The Observer


Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooops!!!

But who knows..........maybe back then, they were building some SUV prototypes and there were too many cows farting!!!QUOTE]

What Oops? Excerpt from the cited article.

"Fifty five million years ago, there were more than 1,000 parts per million (ppm) of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere," said Professor Stephen Pekar, of City University of New York. "That heated the world enough to melt all its ice caps. Sea levels would have been almost 200ft higher than today. "At present, there are 390ppm of CO2 in the atmosphere, a rise – caused by emissions from power plants, factories and lorries – from preindustrial levels of around 280ppm. This has already raised global temperatures by almost 1C. At its present rate of increase – around 2ppm a year - it will still take a long time to reach 1,000ppm.
But we should take little comfort from that, added Pekar. "By the time we get to 500ppm we will start to see major melting of the ice caps."


The article lays out what can be expected, given AGW theory. Don't see how that hepls your side. So Antarctica was warmer, that's to be expected considering the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere. You actually totally ignored the the fact that might explain some of that heat, since you don't accept the CO2 line, i.e. Antarctica wasn't where it is today and ocean curreents tended to keep it warmer than they do today.

Have to forgive ol' Kook. Anything longer than two paragraphs that does not involve cartoons is beyond his comprehension.

 

[westwall]

I guess to ask about the southern Hemisphere and take them into context to get a more global answer would be the craziest idea ever.....

LOLOLOLOLOL.....ahhh...ol' slackjawed.....clueless as ever, I see....

You do, I hope, understand that the seasons are sort of reversed in the southern hemisphere due to axial tilt, so their 'summer' happened about five to eight months ago (Dec - Feb).

Exceptional Australian Heat Wave
NASA
February 11, 2009
(excerpts)

For those who track their local temperatures using the Celsius scale, 40 degrees is a daunting number. In early February 2009, residents of southeastern Australia were cringing at their weather forecasts, as predictions of temperatures above 40 degrees Celsius (104 degrees Fahrenheit) meant that a blistering heat wave was continuing.

This map of Australia shows how the land surface temperature from January 25 to February 1 compared to the average mid-summer temperatures the continent experienced between 2000-2008. Places where temperatures were warmer than average are red, places experiencing near-normal temperatures are white, and places where temperatures were cooler than average are blue. The data were collected by the MODIS on NASA's Terra satellite. While southern Australia was scorching, a similarly large area of northern and central Australia was several degrees cooler than it was in the previous nine years. The cool anomaly across that region is probably linked to the above-average rainfall the area has received during this year's wet season.

Land surface temperature is how hot the surface of the Earth would feel to the touch in a particular location. From a satellite's point of view, the "surface" is whatever it sees when it looks through the atmosphere to the ground. That could be the sand on a beach, the grass on a lawn, the roof of a building, or a paved road. Thus, daytime land surface temperature is often much higher than the air temperature that is included in the daily weather report (a fact that anyone who has walked barefoot across a parking lot on a summer afternoon could verify).

The Australian Bureau of Meteorology (BOM) called this heat wave "exceptional", not only for the high temperatures but for their duration. One-day records were broken in multiple cities, with temperatures in the mid-40s. In Kyancutta, South Australia, the temperature reached 48.2 degrees Celsius (118.8 degrees Fahrenheit). Many places also set records for the number of consecutive days with record-breaking heat.

Nighttime temperatures broke records, too. In their special statement on the heat wave, the BOM wrote, "On the morning of 29 January, an exceptional event also occurred in the northern suburbs of Adelaide around 3 a.m., when strong north-westerly winds mixed hot air aloft to the surface. At RAAF Edinburgh [a regional airport], the temperature rose to 41.7°C at 3:04 a.m. Such an event appears to be without known precedent in southern Australia."

***

South America hit by heat wave
Herald Sun
December 30, 2010

SCORCHING summer heat in South America is cutting harvest forecasts in one of the world's key farm belts. The heat wave has helped propel crop prices to two-year highs and is now fueling concerns about tight global supplies.

With temperatures reaching into the 90s, weather is also threatening crops in southern Brazil and Uruguay, which declared a state of emergency last week for farmers in the north of the country. The region's role in world food markets means any production problems there could be felt around the world.

Ahhhh you silly people are so predictable. So cute, just like a little kitten! Not as smart as a little kitten but cute nontheless.

Now here is what the weather was like in 1908, long before man made CO2 could ever have had an impact on the world and what do we see? Why looky here it was hot all over the damn place!

This year finally broke the 1908 stretch of tempeartures in Adelaide Australia. Wow, it took 100 years of CO2 to break that record, sounds like there's a problem with that theory.

Etc. Etc. Etc. It's the weather. It gets hot, it gets cold. Only the hand wringers try and make every weather condition equate to global warming and that is as anti science as you can get. But what do you expect from religious fanatics.



Adelaide likely to break heatwave record - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

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