So.....Is This Accurate?

[LoneLaugher]

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...mney/romney-says-only-obama-has-cut-medicare/

 

[alan1]

From the linked article,

But that’s just it -- the cuts don’t come from the current Medicare budget, they put a leash on future growth and payment increases.

I'm going to tell my favorite grocery store that 5 years from now (regardless of market forces or inflation or the potential increased size of my family), they still have to sell me my groceries at the EXACT same prices that they sell them to me today.
I wonder if the grocery store will be ok with that?

 

[uscitizen]

Hmm but Obama has not even cut the growth of Medicare yet.
Isn't keeping it from getting bigger what the right wants?

 

[Care4all]

so Romney lied.

guess those on the right can stop their crying about obama saying lies about romney, when romney himself is lying about obama....yet romney wants civil discourse??

gosh, politics is scummy all around....

 

[WillowTree]

only a fucking moron would think that the simultaneous theft of 700 billion dollars from the medicare fund to fund 30 million more people into the systems is "just slowing the growth" go sit in the back of the bus with Soledad. dummie.

 

[Black_Label]

so Romney lied.

guess those on the right can stop their crying about obama saying lies about romney, when romney himself is lying about obama....yet romney wants civil discourse??

gosh, politics is scummy all around....

That's how the right works. It's ok to spread lies just as long as they are the ones doing it.

 

[WillowTree]

Except they aren't, it's the left.

 

[LoneLaugher]

From the linked article,

But that’s just it -- the cuts don’t come from the current Medicare budget, they put a leash on future growth and payment increases.

I'm going to tell my favorite grocery store that 5 years from now (regardless of market forces or inflation or the potential increased size of my family), they still have to sell me my groceries at the EXACT same prices that they sell them to me today.
I wonder if the grocery store will be ok with that?

Why are you against plans that cut costs but do not cut benefits?

 

[Pheonixops]

Hmm but Obama has not even cut the growth of Medicare yet.
Isn't keeping it from getting bigger what the right wants?

LOL, they are all screwed up. One minute they want to advocate "less government", "keep government out of the way!", then they attack Obama for allegedly doing what they claim that they want to do.

 

[alan1]

From the linked article,

But that’s just it -- the cuts don’t come from the current Medicare budget, they put a leash on future growth and payment increases.

I'm going to tell my favorite grocery store that 5 years from now (regardless of market forces or inflation or the potential increased size of my family), they still have to sell me my groceries at the EXACT same prices that they sell them to me today.
I wonder if the grocery store will be ok with that?

Why are you against plans that cut costs but do not cut benefits?

I didn't say that.
Why are you spreading lies about what I said?

 

[8537]

Hmm but Obama has not even cut the growth of Medicare yet.
Isn't keeping it from getting bigger what the right wants?

LOL, they are all screwed up. One minute they want to advocate "less government", "keep government out of the way!", then they attack Obama for allegedly doing what they claim that they want to do.

Lest we forget, this is the crowd that produced "Keep your gubmint hands off my Medicare." Logical consistency is not their strong suit.

 

[hortysir]

so Romney lied.

guess those on the right can stop their crying about obama saying lies about romney, when romney himself is lying about obama....yet romney wants civil discourse??

gosh, politics is scummy all around....

Yea.
Romney lied.


In DECEMBER 2011~~!!!!!!!!!

Another thing that stuck in my craw, reading the article???
****"The Affordable Care Act does reduce Medicare spending by $500 billion over the next 10 years. But here’s the catch: Those dollars aren’t taken out of the current budget, they are not actual cuts, and nowhere does the bill actually eliminate any current benefits," we wrote last month.****


WHAT BUDGET?????!!!!!!







Other than that?
Good article.

Politician lied.

 

[uscitizen]

From the linked article,

But that’s just it -- the cuts don’t come from the current Medicare budget, they put a leash on future growth and payment increases.

I'm going to tell my favorite grocery store that 5 years from now (regardless of market forces or inflation or the potential increased size of my family), they still have to sell me my groceries at the EXACT same prices that they sell them to me today.
I wonder if the grocery store will be ok with that?

You do not remember Nixon's wage and price freeze?

 

[LoneLaugher]

From the linked article,


I'm going to tell my favorite grocery store that 5 years from now (regardless of market forces or inflation or the potential increased size of my family), they still have to sell me my groceries at the EXACT same prices that they sell them to me today.
I wonder if the grocery store will be ok with that?

Why are you against plans that cut costs but do not cut benefits?

I didn't say that.
Why are you spreading lies about what I said?

You provided a bullshit example about some grocery store prices that has nothing to do with the subject.....Romneys lie. You did so in defense of the lie.

Obama's plan for Medicare cuts costs and does not reduce benefits. Support it or be known as against it. Period.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Hmm but Obama has not even cut the growth of Medicare yet.
Isn't keeping it from getting bigger what the right wants?

LOL, they are all screwed up. One minute they want to advocate "less government", "keep government out of the way!", then they attack Obama for allegedly doing what they claim that they want to do.

Lest we forget, this is the crowd that produced "Keep your gubmint hands off my Medicare." Logical consistency is not their strong suit.

Hell, they can't even SPELL it!!

But, by gawd, they want it and they want it right now.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Lone Laugher

Obama's plan for Medicare cuts costs and does not reduce benefits.

Whereas, the Ryan-Romney "plan" is to just take it away from the elderly and give it to the wealthy.

 

[Care4all]

From the linked article,

But that’s just it -- the cuts don’t come from the current Medicare budget, they put a leash on future growth and payment increases.

I'm going to tell my favorite grocery store that 5 years from now (regardless of market forces or inflation or the potential increased size of my family), they still have to sell me my groceries at the EXACT same prices that they sell them to me today.
I wonder if the grocery store will be ok with that?

do you believe there is no fraud and waste in Medicare Alan?

do you believe that the high prices doctors and hospitals charge today, would have been able to rise so high, if there had not been ALL of the government subsidies and social engineering by the gvt?

AS example, if the government had not created and funded medicare and medicaid, and had not given tax deductions to businesses for it, and had not funded research and development and had not funded medical schools, and had not given school grants to future doctors and nurses and had not funded Schip for children's health care, and had not paid for the healthcare for all gvt workers, and had not created the gvt funded medicare pill bill etc etc etc etc....that the free market, with no interference of gvt and government subsidies, the cost of health care would be as astronomically high, as it is today?

Would these Doctors be getting all the money they are getting today for each procedure and visit?

I think the Doctors bitching about having to lower their prices for medicare patients is wrong and price limits is more than reasonable, considering they wouldn't be able to charge any where close to even the medicare price, that they are getting today, if it had not been basically funded and fed by the gvt's tax dollars, allowing prices to go higher and higher and higher, with no free market restraints.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Hmm but Obama has not even cut the growth of Medicare yet.
Isn't keeping it from getting bigger what the right wants?

So they say.

But if we look at their actions instead of their words, we find that what they really want is make government H U G E.

The BIGGER the BETTER.

According to the R, government should control every move we make. No matter how intimate and personal, the GObP wants to control our every move.

And, rw's love every bit of it because they want control over Libs/Dems.

If we really look at what they say and what they want, they're sexually repressed and hate the progressive, sexual left because we are not.

Brace yourselves for the denial from the right but also pay attention to their hatred for "hippies", "progressives" and other sinners.

Its also why they love mittens and ryan - sexually repressed and also wanting to control us sinning lefties.

The louder the denial, the more we know its true.

 

[Care4all]

also Alan, you do realize that the ''ryan plan'' has the same $500 billion to 700 billion in medicare cuts that obama's plan has?

Is ryan's plan unfair to doctors?

 

[LoneLaugher]

also Alan, you do realize that the ''ryan plan'' has the same $500 billion to 700 billion in medicare cuts that obama's plan has?

Is ryan's plan unfair to doctors?

Indeed it does. In my haste to be unfair to Romney and Ryan, I forgot to mention that fact. Silly me.