So if the Confederate Flag represents "historical racism"... What about banning Planned Parenthood?

[ClosedCaption]

Abortions doesnt take away racism or the racism associated with the confederate flag pee sniffer

The confederate flag isn't as racist as the donkey in the democrat logo.

Well, that was easy. You seem to admit that your comparison was false so you move onto the Dem logo. Which also doesnt take away the racism associated with the Confederate Flag

the association between the confederate flag and racism is a creation of the left wing media.

BTW, the stars and bars flag is NOT the flag of the confederacy.

Did the left wing media also create the civil war dick face?

 

[jknowgood]

Abortions doesnt take away racism or the racism associated with the confederate flag pee sniffer

The confederate flag isn't as racist as the donkey in the democrat logo.

Well, that was easy. You seem to admit that your comparison was false so you move onto the Dem logo. Which also doesnt take away the racism associated with the Confederate Flag

the association between the confederate flag and racism is a creation of the left wing media.

BTW, the stars and bars flag is NOT the flag of the confederacy.

Did the left wing media also create the civil war dick face?

No, liberals did dumbass.

 

[Redfish]

The SC shooter was photographed burning an american flag. Should we ban it?

This is total PC bullshit. The confederate flag had nothing to do with the acts of that racist asshole.

But tell us, if that flag is banned will the black on black murder rate in our cities go down? will racists like Sharpton stop ranting? What problems specifically will be solved by banning that flag?

Let's be clear about "banning". That flag should not be flown on public property. It serves no noble purpose. There is nothing admirable imbued in that flag. Flying it by the state implies a state sanctioned approval of the terror and intimidation presented by that flag. Any individual is free to continue flying it.

And no, the flag has no special powers to stop the killings. Only ridding our society of the violent gun culture can do that. Racists like Trump and David Duke and other Conservative firebrands will continue to rant.

Hmmm, "violent gun culture". Chicago has the most strict gun laws in the nation and the highest gun murder rate. The problem is not guns, the problem is the inner city culture which has been created in our cities by years of liberal democrat rule. What happened in Baltimore is a perfect example. Incompetent minority mayor and DA elected because of their color rather than their qualifications. The current occupant of the whitehouse is another example

The violent gun culture celebrates gun ownership and use in cities, small towns, rural communities. In schools, the violent gun culture has wrecked havoc and then responded that the way to solve the problem is to add guns.

The NRA, its minions and the hundreds of thousands of gun fetishists seem to think that the gun is not the problem but politics is. How many deaths by campaign buttons are there? An ostrich response by those who do not accept responsibility.

you are clearly a victim of liberal indoctrination. The 2nd amendment allows every citizen the right to own a gun or guns. We also have background checks to prevent criminals from buying guns (legally that is) when one gang banger sells a gun to another gangbanger there is no background check and no record of the transaction. So how would making it harder for honest non-criminal citizens to purchase guns have any affect on the gangbangers?

You libs refuse to acknowledge the real problem. Liberal ideology has destroyed the black family (and the poor white family) and created a dependent (slave) segment of our population, and you silly fucks want more of that by adding illegals to the slave population.

If Conservatives see the poor as slaves, why not raise the minimum wage? Why not ensure that the 'slaves' be justly compensated? Why not ensure that the 'slaves' have a chance at decent, safe and sanitary housing? Why not ensure the 'slaves' have an opportunity to secure healthcare?

For as much as you think Liberals have 'enslaved' the poor, Conservative policies do more to repress them than free them.

Did you see what happened when the minimum wage was raised in Seattle? Fast food prices went up. It accomplishes nothing if you have more income but it takes more to live. Raising the minimum wage is inflationary, it accomplishes nothing.

Want more good jobs in the USA? make the corporate income tax zero (its currently the highest in the world) allow foreign profits to be spent in this country tax free. You would see a boom like never before and more jobs than applicants. This stuff is not complicated, if you fricken libs would stop worrying about punishing corporations and successful people and focus on fixing the mess we are in, it would be easy to get this country moving again.

 

[depotoo]

From the Margaret Sanger archives at nyu-
Today all classes in all countries try to exercise some control in regulating the size of their families. It is only the unfit, the less desirable, who procreate recklessly and without forethought or care. ↑But↓ I have found that even here there is often an attempt to limit the number of offspring usually when it is too late. When proper knowledge of birth control is generally advocated and encouraged among the groups in society, where health and economic consideration is obvious, I believe the birth rate will be reduced where it should be lowest.



In Stockholm, through an investigation made by Dr. Karl Edin, it was found that owing to the practice of birth control among all classes that there was a definite lowering of the birth rate among the poor and a slightly higher birth rate among the well-to-do and educated classes. This is a condition long hoped for, it is the logical outcome of properly disseminated instruction.

Abortions doesnt take away racism or the racism associated with the confederate flag pee sniffer

But Planned Parenthood's charter was premised on racial cleansing!
MY goodness how discriminate you are to be OK with banning ANYTHING to do with racism...EXCEPT when it comes to killing black babies... that's OK right???

Sure it was, because you said so. More capslock bro...its convincing

 

[Redfish]

Abortions doesnt take away racism or the racism associated with the confederate flag pee sniffer

The confederate flag isn't as racist as the donkey in the democrat logo.

Well, that was easy. You seem to admit that your comparison was false so you move onto the Dem logo. Which also doesnt take away the racism associated with the Confederate Flag

the association between the confederate flag and racism is a creation of the left wing media.

BTW, the stars and bars flag is NOT the flag of the confederacy.

Did the left wing media also create the civil war dick face?

Uhh, no the media had nothing to do with the civil war, dick face.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Abortions doesnt take away racism or the racism associated with the confederate flag pee sniffer

The confederate flag isn't as racist as the donkey in the democrat logo.

Well, that was easy. You seem to admit that your comparison was false so you move onto the Dem logo. Which also doesnt take away the racism associated with the Confederate Flag

the association between the confederate flag and racism is a creation of the left wing media.

BTW, the stars and bars flag is NOT the flag of the confederacy.

Did the left wing media also create the civil war dick face?

No, liberals did dumbass.

Civil War = Never happened

Confederate Flag = Not about Race

 

[ClosedCaption]

They were just fighting for their rights...which just so happen to be about keeping slaves...which so happen to be blacks.

See? Its not about race!!!

 

[Redfish]

The confederate flag isn't as racist as the donkey in the democrat logo.

Well, that was easy. You seem to admit that your comparison was false so you move onto the Dem logo. Which also doesnt take away the racism associated with the Confederate Flag

the association between the confederate flag and racism is a creation of the left wing media.

BTW, the stars and bars flag is NOT the flag of the confederacy.

Did the left wing media also create the civil war dick face?

No, liberals did dumbass.

Civil War = Never happened

Confederate Flag = Not about Race

the civil war did happen, its a historical fact and a very sad chapter in our history. It was not solely about slavery.

the confederate flag (not the stars and bars) was the flag of a secession movement that failed. It was not a racist flag except in the misguided disengenuous minds of idiots like you.

 

[Redfish]

They were just fighting for their rights...which just so happen to be about keeping slaves...which so happen to be blacks.

See? Its not about race!!!

your knowledge of american history is sadly lacking. You know nothing about the civil war, the confederacy, Lincoln, Lee, Jackson, or anything else

 

[ClosedCaption]

Well, that was easy. You seem to admit that your comparison was false so you move onto the Dem logo. Which also doesnt take away the racism associated with the Confederate Flag

the association between the confederate flag and racism is a creation of the left wing media.

BTW, the stars and bars flag is NOT the flag of the confederacy.

Did the left wing media also create the civil war dick face?

No, liberals did dumbass.

Civil War = Never happened

Confederate Flag = Not about Race

the civil war did happen, its a historical fact and a very sad chapter in our history. It was not solely about slavery.

the confederate flag (not the stars and bars) was the flag of a secession movement that failed. It was not a racist flag except in the misguided disengenuous minds of idiots like you.

Why was the Civil war sad?

Thanks with your second statement you just confirmed it WAS about slavery just not SOLELY...which no one gives a shit about. And the Civil war was about keeping slaves, they fought under that flag to keep slaves, but its not about slavery or racism

Talking in circles doesnt work

 

[BlindBoo]

It was not solely about slavery.

That's true. Only for the South was it about the preservation of Slavery, for the North is was about keeping the South in the Union.

 

[ClosedCaption]

They were just fighting for their rights...which just so happen to be about keeping slaves...which so happen to be blacks.

See? Its not about race!!!

your knowledge of american history is sadly lacking. You know nothing about the civil war, the confederacy, Lincoln, Lee, Jackson, or anything else

Are you going to deflect EVERY point? Now what? you think this is about being a historian? Lincoln or Lee?

I mean, sheesh, you didnt even disagree with me and cant point out anything wrong I've said. If you could've you would've.

 

[healthmyths]

Planned Parenthood admits aborted baby parts are sold.
“They just want to do it in a way that is not perceived as: This clinic is selling tissue. This clinic is making money off this. In the Planned Parenthood world, they’re very, very sensitive to that. Some affiliates might do it for free. They want to come to a number that looks like a reasonable number for the effort that is allotted on their part . . . ”

One activist asks, “Okay, so, when you are — or when the affiliate is — determining what that monetary . . . So that it doesn’t raise the question of . . . ‘This is what it’s about’ — What price range would you . . . ?”

“You know, I would throw a number out, I would say it’s probably anywhere from $30 to $100, depending on the facility and what’s involved,” says Nucatola. “It just has to do with space issues, are you sending someone there that’s going to be doing everything . . . is there shipping involved? Is someone going to be there to pick it up?”
Undercover video shows Planned Parenthood official discussing fetal organs used for research - The Washington Post

 

[Redfish]

the association between the confederate flag and racism is a creation of the left wing media.

BTW, the stars and bars flag is NOT the flag of the confederacy.

Did the left wing media also create the civil war dick face?

No, liberals did dumbass.

Civil War = Never happened

Confederate Flag = Not about Race

the civil war did happen, its a historical fact and a very sad chapter in our history. It was not solely about slavery.

the confederate flag (not the stars and bars) was the flag of a secession movement that failed. It was not a racist flag except in the misguided disengenuous minds of idiots like you.

Why was the Civil war sad?

Thanks with your second statement you just confirmed it WAS about slavery just not SOLELY...which no one gives a shit about. And the Civil war was about keeping slaves, they fought under that flag to keep slaves, but its not about slavery or racism

Talking in circles doesnt work

the civil war was about states rights vs federal government dictate. Slavery existed in the northern states as well at that time. Yes, one of the states rights that was on the table was slavery, but it was not the only one as you revisionists try to claim.

Are you aware that the emancipation proclamation did not free all the slaves? Are you aware that it permitted slavery to continue in certain parts of some states?

Why was it sad? Because it tore this country apart and caused thousands of unnecessary deaths.

 

[Redfish]

They were just fighting for their rights...which just so happen to be about keeping slaves...which so happen to be blacks.

See? Its not about race!!!

your knowledge of american history is sadly lacking. You know nothing about the civil war, the confederacy, Lincoln, Lee, Jackson, or anything else

Are you going to deflect EVERY point? Now what? you think this is about being a historian? Lincoln or Lee?

I mean, sheesh, you didnt even disagree with me and cant point out anything wrong I've said. If you could've you would've.

American history 101. Go to your local library and check it out. Better do it quickly before the book burners get to it.

 

[Redfish]

It was not solely about slavery.

That's true. Only for the South was it about the preservation of Slavery, for the North is was about keeping the South in the Union.

100% wrong.

 

[BlindBoo]

It was not solely about slavery.

That's true. Only for the South was it about the preservation of Slavery, for the North is was about keeping the South in the Union.

100% wrong.

Nope. It is accurate. The preservation of the institution was the main objective of secession.

The Reasons for Secession

1) Each declaration makes the defense of slavery a clear objective. .

Mississippi

Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth… These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization.

Texas

The servitude of the African race, as existing in these States, is mutually beneficial to both bond and free, and is abundantly authorized and justified by the experience of mankind, and the revealed will of the Almighty Creator, as recognized by all Christian nations.

South Carolina

Those [Union] States have assumed the right of deciding upon the propriety of our domestic institutions; and have denied the rights of property established in fifteen of the States and recognized by the Constitution; they have denounced as sinful the institution of slavery

Georgia

That reason was [the North's] fixed purpose to limit, restrain, and finally abolish slavery in the States where it exists

 

[Redfish]

It was not solely about slavery.

That's true. Only for the South was it about the preservation of Slavery, for the North is was about keeping the South in the Union.

100% wrong.

Nope. It is accurate. The preservation of the institution was the main objective of secession.

The Reasons for Secession

1) Each declaration makes the defense of slavery a clear objective. .

Mississippi

Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth… These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization.

Texas

The servitude of the African race, as existing in these States, is mutually beneficial to both bond and free, and is abundantly authorized and justified by the experience of mankind, and the revealed will of the Almighty Creator, as recognized by all Christian nations.

South Carolina

Those [Union] States have assumed the right of deciding upon the propriety of our domestic institutions; and have denied the rights of property established in fifteen of the States and recognized by the Constitution; they have denounced as sinful the institution of slavery

Georgia

That reason was [the North's] fixed purpose to limit, restrain, and finally abolish slavery in the States where it exists

Nice try, but you took your quotes out of context and failed to include this:

"The scholars immediately disagreed over the causes of the war and disagreement persists today. Many maintain that the primary cause of the war was the Southern states’ desire to preserve the institution of slavery. Others minimize slavery and point to other factors, such as taxation or the principle of States' Rights.

In 2011, at the outset of the sesquicentennial, a Pew Research Center poll found that Americans were significantly divided on the issue, with 48% saying the war was "mainly about states' rights," 38% saying the war was "mainly about slavery," with the remainder answering "both equally" or "neither/don't know."

 

[PratchettFan]

It was not solely about slavery.

That's true. Only for the South was it about the preservation of Slavery, for the North is was about keeping the South in the Union.

100% wrong.

Nope. It is accurate. The preservation of the institution was the main objective of secession.

The Reasons for Secession

1) Each declaration makes the defense of slavery a clear objective. .

Mississippi

Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth… These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization.

Texas

The servitude of the African race, as existing in these States, is mutually beneficial to both bond and free, and is abundantly authorized and justified by the experience of mankind, and the revealed will of the Almighty Creator, as recognized by all Christian nations.

South Carolina

Those [Union] States have assumed the right of deciding upon the propriety of our domestic institutions; and have denied the rights of property established in fifteen of the States and recognized by the Constitution; they have denounced as sinful the institution of slavery

Georgia

That reason was [the North's] fixed purpose to limit, restrain, and finally abolish slavery in the States where it exists

Nice try, but you took your quotes out of context and failed to include this:

"The scholars immediately disagreed over the causes of the war and disagreement persists today. Many maintain that the primary cause of the war was the Southern states’ desire to preserve the institution of slavery. Others minimize slavery and point to other factors, such as taxation or the principle of States' Rights.

In 2011, at the outset of the sesquicentennial, a Pew Research Center poll found that Americans were significantly divided on the issue, with 48% saying the war was "mainly about states' rights," 38% saying the war was "mainly about slavery," with the remainder answering "both equally" or "neither/don't know."

All that poll shows is that a good percentage of the current population aren't well versed in history. it may well be that slavery was not the reason most of the men went to fight, but slavery was the primary reason the states seceded and the war began. Slavery was essential to the production of cotton, which was the primary income source of the upper class in the South. 'Cotton is King." The war was, at the bottom, all about money.