Skeptics are winning: “The carbon market is dead”

[bripat9643]

Skeptics are winning: “The carbon market is dead” « JoNova: Science, carbon, climate and tax

The collapse of the Man-Made Myth continues apace. You may not read headlines as such (at least not in major dailies) but all the signs are there.

People who we never would have imagined speaking against the Big Scare Campaign are now doing so. Key glaciers are not melting and corals are happy. Governments won’t tell you it’s over, but they are behaving that way (the Australian one excepted, due to an election fluke that gave the Greens the balance of power). The Catholic Herald headlined it: Is the ‘anthropogenic global warming’ consensus on the point of collapse?

The last year of carbon trading in EUR's continues to fall. (Click to enlarge).

 

[tinydancer]

And at the same time they are freezing their asses off with temps not seen in 100 years. Bulgaria I think
has recorded such. While some idiot "climate gal on the local news chirps on about how warm our winter has been = global warming"

You know the saddest part of all of this are the morons who bought in lock stock and barrel and enabled their own governments to tax the ever loving you know what out of them "for the planet".

This has been the biggest scheme to defraud the public of wealth in my lifetime at least. And even confronted with the truth, that their own arch enemy Ken Enron came up with the idea of carbon credits, they spurned reality and listened to the prophet "Gore".

Whomever released the first round of the climate gate emails is to be rewarded in the hereafter with wings for surely this person is an angel.

 

[The T]

Skeptics are winning: “The carbon market is dead” « JoNova: Science, carbon, climate and tax

The collapse of the Man-Made Myth continues apace. You may not read headlines as such (at least not in major dailies) but all the signs are there.

People who we never would have imagined speaking against the Big Scare Campaign are now doing so. Key glaciers are not melting and corals are happy. Governments won’t tell you it’s over, but they are behaving that way (the Australian one excepted, due to an election fluke that gave the Greens the balance of power). The Catholic Herald headlined it: Is the ‘anthropogenic global warming’ consensus on the point of collapse?

The last year of carbon trading in EUR's continues to fall. (Click to enlarge).

Here's hoping that the twit OwlGore loses his ass on this one.

 

[naturegirl]

And it all comes crashing down. Climate change brought to you by Mother Nature.

 

[Old Rocks]

And you ignorant dingleberries are still full of shit. The East Coast had huge snow storms all of last winter, yet the summer was hot and wet. Except for Texas and vicinity, where it was very hot and very dry.

One of the primary predictions of global warming is "Weather swings that are wider and wilder, with an overall warming trend". And that is exactly what we are seeing. Last year, a very strong La Nina, yet the year was between the 11th and 9th warmest on record. This year, with two La Nina's back to back, January was only -0.09. That is still above most of the points on Dr. Roy Spencer's graph prior to 1998.

UAH Global Temperature Update for January 2012: -0.09 deg. C « Roy Spencer, Ph. D.

 

[The T]

And you ignorant dingleberries are still full of shit. The East Coast had huge snow storms all of last winter, yet the summer was hot and wet. Except for Texas and vicinity, where it was very hot and very dry.

One of the primary predictions of global warming is "Weather swings that are wider and wilder, with an overall warming trend". And that is exactly what we are seeing. Last year, a very strong La Nina, yet the year was between the 11th and 9th warmest on record. This year, with two La Nina's back to back, January was only -0.09. That is still above most of the points on Dr. Roy Spencer's graph prior to 1998.

UAH Global Temperature Update for January 2012: -0.09 deg. C « Roy Spencer, Ph. D.

So what?

 

[Truthmatters]

None of this will make you king OP

 

[Mr. H.]

It looks to me more like the failure of an investment instrument rather than "The collapse of the Man-Made Myth".

 

[The T]

It looks to me more like the failure of an investment instrument rather than "The collapse of the Man-Made Myth".

Actually I see it as both. Those alarmists that are making money hand over fist on this and refusing to clean up thier own acts are being shown for what frauds they really are.

 

[editec]

I have never liked the concept of carbon credits.

It smacks of selling indulgences and it is a system DESIGNED to be corrupted, too.

In theiry it is a system designed to allow market forces to reduce our carbon footprint.

But in practice it would become a system wherein Insiders could buy and sell INDULGENCES.

This idea is, I think, a Democratic idea, isn't it?

Doesn't matter really whose idea it is, the idea is badly flawed in my opinion,

 

[Old Rocks]

Dr. James Hansen was very adamantly against it from the git-go, for exactly those reasons, Editec. In fact, what he proposed was a carbon tax, imposed at the well head, mine shaft, or port. And the money from the tax would be divided equally among all citizens. Then those that used less carbon producing products would see a profit, those that used more, would see a loss. Capitalism at work.

 

[bripat9643]

Yeah, we know, Old Rocks in the Head. Warm weather means global warming, and cold weather means global warming.

Go throw a virgin into the volcano.

And you ignorant dingleberries are still full of shit. The East Coast had huge snow storms all of last winter, yet the summer was hot and wet. Except for Texas and vicinity, where it was very hot and very dry.

One of the primary predictions of global warming is "Weather swings that are wider and wilder, with an overall warming trend". And that is exactly what we are seeing. Last year, a very strong La Nina, yet the year was between the 11th and 9th warmest on record. This year, with two La Nina's back to back, January was only -0.09. That is still above most of the points on Dr. Roy Spencer's graph prior to 1998.

UAH Global Temperature Update for January 2012: -0.09 deg. C « Roy Spencer, Ph. D.

 

[bripat9643]

Dr. James Hansen was very adamantly against it from the git-go, for exactly those reasons, Editec. In fact, what he proposed was a carbon tax, imposed at the well head, mine shaft, or port. And the money from the tax would be divided equally among all citizens. Then those that used less carbon producing products would see a profit, those that used more, would see a loss. Capitalism at work.

Yeah, right. Politicians would never use a vast new sou*ce of revenue to reward their* constituents, would they?

Anyone who fell for this scheme is a certified imbecile.

 

[The T]

Yeah, we know, Old Rocks in the Head. Warm weather means global warming, and cold weather means global warming.

Go throw a virgin into the volcano.

And you ignorant dingleberries are still full of shit. The East Coast had huge snow storms all of last winter, yet the summer was hot and wet. Except for Texas and vicinity, where it was very hot and very dry.

One of the primary predictions of global warming is "Weather swings that are wider and wilder, with an overall warming trend". And that is exactly what we are seeing. Last year, a very strong La Nina, yet the year was between the 11th and 9th warmest on record. This year, with two La Nina's back to back, January was only -0.09. That is still above most of the points on Dr. Roy Spencer's graph prior to 1998.

UAH Global Temperature Update for January 2012: -0.09 deg. C « Roy Spencer, Ph. D.

As long as it is a Conservative one though...

 

[asaratis]

I don't recall the frequency of Ice Ages here on earth, but they happen every so many thousands of years apart. We may be at a peak in the world temperature cycle...headed for another glacial makeover. but don't go stockin' up on food, water and winter clothes. These things take a lot of time and you probably won't see it happen.

 

[PredFan]

And at the same time they are freezing their asses off with temps not seen in 100 years. Bulgaria I think
has recorded such. While some idiot "climate gal on the local news chirps on about how warm our winter has been = global warming"

You know the saddest part of all of this are the morons who bought in lock stock and barrel and enabled their own governments to tax the ever loving you know what out of them "for the planet".

This has been the biggest scheme to defraud the public of wealth in my lifetime at least. And even confronted with the truth, that their own arch enemy Ken Enron came up with the idea of carbon credits, they spurned reality and listened to the prophet "Gore".

Whomever released the first round of the climate gate emails is to be rewarded in the hereafter with wings for surely this person is an angel.

Bush's legacy is redeemed by the fact that he was smart enough not to sign the Koyoto Treaty.

 

[PredFan]

Yeah, we know, Old Rocks in the Head. Warm weather means global warming, and cold weather means global warming.

Go throw a virgin into the volcano.

And you ignorant dingleberries are still full of shit. The East Coast had huge snow storms all of last winter, yet the summer was hot and wet. Except for Texas and vicinity, where it was very hot and very dry.

One of the primary predictions of global warming is "Weather swings that are wider and wilder, with an overall warming trend". And that is exactly what we are seeing. Last year, a very strong La Nina, yet the year was between the 11th and 9th warmest on record. This year, with two La Nina's back to back, January was only -0.09. That is still above most of the points on Dr. Roy Spencer's graph prior to 1998.

UAH Global Temperature Update for January 2012: -0.09 deg. C « Roy Spencer, Ph. D.

That's the hallmark of a scam. The old switcheroo.

Change the name to Global Climate Change so that any weather as long as it's a change, can be blamed on man. Nevermind that no one has ever been able to tie increases in carbon dioxide levels to increases in cold weather.

Another hallmark of this scam is that the answer to the problem is socialism.