Since the start of the Trade war...

[WheelieAddict]

Since the start of the trade war republicans are suddenly massive socialists giving huge hand outs to farmers. Yet any candidate that proposes tax money going to help people is labeled a commie. Republicans are such jokes its not even funny anymore.

Every rule has its exceptions.

lmao Not even a joke anymore.

 

[protectionist]

lmao

Maybe you've never owned a business.

 

[WheelieAddict]

lmao

Maybe you've never owned a business.

I should so I can get free handouts from the socialist republicans.

 

[protectionist]

I should so I can get free handouts from the socialist republicans.

Maybe. depending on what business you're in and what is happening in the economy. I wouldn't count on it though. Less than 0.00001% of businesses are getting handouts. But keep spouting the propaganda if it makes you feel better.

 

[WheelieAddict]

I should so I can get free handouts from the socialist republicans.

Maybe. depending on what business you're in and what is happening in the economy. I wouldn't count on it though. Less than 0.00001% of businesses are getting handouts. But keep spouting the propaganda if it makes you feel better.

Im a farmer now for business. Republican socialism handouts are great, keep em comin!

 

[Muhammed]

How do our economic indicators look?

Better than when the Democrats had power.

A lot better.

So how do you think the economy would be doing if Obama got his way and made the price of energy skyrocket?



If your electric bill did not triple, or worse, thank a Republican.

A Republican filibuster blocked it.

Democrats are scum!

Slavery, Jim Crow, Cops shooting negros, "well, just cause they're scary violent negros", oppressive regressive taxes. That's all Democrat MoO.

Wake up and...


THINK!

 

[The Purge]

 

[The Purge]

 

[WheelieAddict]

How do our economic indicators look?

Better than when the Democrats had power.

A lot better.

You seem to have conveniently forgot about the massive 2008 recession that culminated while republicans were in power

 

[Muhammed]

How do our economic indicators look?

Better than when the Democrats had power.

A lot better.

You seem to have conveniently forgot about the massive 2008 recession that culminated while republicans were in power

The Republicans were not in power in 2008, you silly fool.

The Democrats rode the conspiracy theory 9/11 truther wave into control of congress in the 2006 election, jackass.

Granted, in 2008 Bush was president, however, he had a Democrat (epitome of evil party of slavery and Jim Crow etc, etc party) Senate and HoR that rode the "truther" wave into control of congress working against him. BDS. TDS is not new. It is BDS on steroids.

Look at it this way.

Obama and his Democrats had full control of the House, Senate and Presidency in 2009 and 2010. How did the economy do then?


Trump and the Republicans had control in 2017 and 2018. How id the economy do then?

MUCH BETTER!

THINK!

 

[K9Buck]

How do our economic indicators look?

GDP growth...not good and heading the wrong way
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The Markets...not good, stagnant...In the 557 days of the trade war this is how they have done...

DJI up 1.59% . An annual growth rate of 1.04%
S&P up 4.33%. An annual growth rate of 2.84%
NASDAQ up 12.56%. An annual growth rate of 8.23%
SmallCap 2000 down 3.99. An annual growth rate of -2.62

Trade Deficit...no better than when we started...
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National Debt...very bad

$ 1,529,671,787,835 added to the National Debt. That is an annual rate of $1,004,878,813,861.

Employment...mixed bag.

UE rate from 4.1 to 3.7. Pretty good.
LFPR from 63% to 63%...no change

The trade wars could doom Trump's re-election. The Chinese are certainly hoping for a Democrat to win. If Trump wins, however, they may be forced into concessions.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

How do our economic indicators look?

GDP growth...not good and heading the wrong way
View attachment 272446

The Markets...not good, stagnant...In the 557 days of the trade war this is how they have done...

DJI up 1.59% . An annual growth rate of 1.04%
S&P up 4.33%. An annual growth rate of 2.84%
NASDAQ up 12.56%. An annual growth rate of 8.23%
SmallCap 2000 down 3.99. An annual growth rate of -2.62

Trade Deficit...no better than when we started...
View attachment 272447

National Debt...very bad

$ 1,529,671,787,835 added to the National Debt. That is an annual rate of $1,004,878,813,861.

Employment...mixed bag.

UE rate from 4.1 to 3.7. Pretty good.
LFPR from 63% to 63%...no change

Conservatives don’t care about facts.

They care only about fear, hate, and lies.

Conservatives will continue to blindly support Trump regardless the facts and truth.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

1. You didn't address the trade deficits that those horrible trade deals created
2. You didn't address the job losses those horrible trade deals created.
3. How many factories & jobs were outsourced due to those horrible trade deals
4. The Ag sector can always find places to sell their grain
5. How many foreign cars are imported into the US annually? Try to sell US products overseas.
6. The financial markets all hit new records recently, in spite of the trade war

1. Explain why trade deficits are bad?

2. We have been adding jobs for more than 100 months, there are more jobs than people to fill them.

3. Factories and jobs going overseas was the decision of the private companies, not the government.

4. Who? Where will they find 1.3 billion customers to make up for losing out in China?

5. Foreign cars are sold here because we the people want to buy them.

6. The financial markets have been stagnant since the start of the trade wars, I gave the exact numbers.

1. Trade deficits are bad because: Why Trade Deficits Matter
2. Like a guy told Bill Clinton: "Yeah the US has a lot of jobs, my wife and I have 4 of them to make ends meet"
3. The government sets the stage for economic activity, like Trump is doing now, managing the economy, the private companies can still make their decisions, including how to handle tariffs.
4. US soybeans go here and there: Top 10 U.S. Export Destinations For Soybeans
5. Foreign cars have no tariff here, but US cars have tariffs there, Trump will fix that shortly
6. Financial markets "stagnant"? Try reading the Dow, S&P and Nasdaq charts. Here is QQQ, still tracking higher...I'm not seeing "stagnant":

1. Debunking trade deficit myths. Also, if trade deficits are bad, why do you choose to have one with your local grocery store?

2. cool story. We have over a million more open positions than people to fill them, most of them are good pay skilled jobs.

3. Yes, Trump is setting the stage, that is for sure. Too bad it is a disaster movie.

4. So, prior to 2019 we sold more to China than the other 9 put together. Now we still sell to the other 9, and their numbers went up but it still does not total what China bought in 2018. So, where are we going to find a market for the 24 metric tons that China used to buy? Especially since as you chart shows, we are already selling to a lot of people.

5. Actually, they do have a tariff here.

6. Yes, stagnant. Here are the exact number since the start of the trade wars....

DJI up 1.59% . An annual growth rate of 1.04%
S&P up 4.33%. An annual growth rate of 2.84%
NASDAQ up 12.56%. An annual growth rate of 8.23%
SmallCap 2000 down 3.99. An annual growth rate of -2.62

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Conservatives don’t care about facts.

They care only about fear, hate, and lies.

Conservatives will continue to blindly support Trump regardless the facts and truth.

This thread has prove that.

How many of them in this thread did the "BUT OBAMA" cop out?

 

[rightwinger]

The economy is NOT BAD, see you later alligator.

Very true

Why would anyone be dumb enough to start a trade war in a strong economy?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

The economy is NOT BAD, see you later alligator.

Very true

Why would anyone be dumb enough to start a trade war in a strong economy?

This time you are mistaken. A trade war during a recession would be stupid.

The problem with this trade war is that Trump went to war against the whole world at the same time. Just imagine the leverage we could have had if the EU were on our side in the trade war against China. China would have caved a year ago.

But Trump is too stupid to understand that fighting a multi-front war is a losing proposition.

 

[JWBooth]

Orange Man Bad, we’re all going to die!

Record 157,288,000 Employed in July

Those second and third jobs, trying to get by as prices are driven upward for no good reason

 

[ColonelAngus]

Orange Man Bad, we’re all going to die!

Record 157,288,000 Employed in July

Those second and third jobs, trying to get by as prices are driven upward for no good reason

Anyone worth a squirt of piss has 4 Jobs.

 

[Wry Catcher]

How do our economic indicators look?

GDP growth...not good and heading the wrong way
View attachment 272446

The Markets...not good, stagnant...In the 557 days of the trade war this is how they have done...

DJI up 1.59% . An annual growth rate of 1.04%
S&P up 4.33%. An annual growth rate of 2.84%
NASDAQ up 12.56%. An annual growth rate of 8.23%
SmallCap 2000 down 3.99. An annual growth rate of -2.62

Trade Deficit...no better than when we started...
View attachment 272447

National Debt...very bad

$ 1,529,671,787,835 added to the National Debt. That is an annual rate of $1,004,878,813,861.

Employment...mixed bag.

UE rate from 4.1 to 3.7. Pretty good.
LFPR from 63% to 63%...no change

Thank you, yet you've forgotten how prices for goods - both durable and nondurable have gone up and being paid for by mostly the middle classes and working poor.

 

[Mac1958]

GDP down to 2.1%, 10 Treasury yields have tanked 40%, not enough economic activity to drive inflation, market gets pissed when the Fed drops rates only 25bps.

Those facts aren't allowed in the alternate universe, but they're true.

Hopefully things will pick up. It could certainly happen. But the Trumpsters are choosing to expose themselves to limited reality.
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