Should the United States Support International Democritization?

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    One aspect of American Exceptionalism has been support for democritization and human rights throughout the world.

    Our President has stepped away from this view: "I believe in American exceptionalism, just as I suspect that the Brits believe in British exceptionalism and the Greeks believe in Greek exceptionalism."

    But it seems that other Western leaders agree with the President, and it seems to coincide with a view that, ultimately, Afghanistan may be more authoritarian than democratic.

    Here is an interesting, short, article from Eurasianet, about upcoming elections in Central Asia.

    "The quiet international response to Tajikistan’s electoral process is prompting some to suggest the United States and the European Union are growing fatigued with democratization in Central Asia.

    ... a western diplomat said on condition of anonymity. "Why spend money on an electoral process that is pre-determined? In essence, assisting in pre-election efforts now with the close collaboration of the CEC would be tantamount to aligning oneself with the regime," the diplomat said. And beyond the money issue, the deteriorating security situation in Afghanistan is prompting foreign officials and observers to "prefer a stable, rather than a democratic Central Asia," the diplomat suggested."

    EurasiaNet Civil Society - Tajikistan: Is the West Showing Signs of Democratization Fatigue?
     
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    "[America] goes not abroad in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own." - John Quincy Adams

    No, in other words.
     
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    "If we define neoconservatism, in Mr. Kagan's words, as "potent moralism and idealism in world affairs, a belief in America's exceptional role as a promoter of the principles of liberty and democracy," then it was a doctrine held by Alexander Hamilton, Henry Clay, and Theodore Roosevelt. "

    "Generations from now, Americans may be taught that "the neoconservatives" forced America into war, much as Hearst believed in 1898. But after reading World Affairs it seems clear that, no matter who is in the White House when the next serious crisis comes, America is likely to find itself returning to the same calculus of interest and idealism — call it traditional, liberal, interventionist, or simply neoconservative — that it used when dealing with Iraq."
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    Id prefer to see international republicanization.. And Im not talking at all about the Republican party here.
     
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    What does this have to do with Thanksgiving?

    Give it a little rest and spend some time with the family.

    Happy Thanksgiving to all!
     
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    Maybe some people are grateful for their free government and wish to share it with others?

    Does everything have to do with thanksgiving? I mean i am enjoying the holiday but doing something I love for a bit of the day and thats talk with everyone here. Going to celebrate it with my family soon though. That should be fun too.
     
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    Sounds great! Have fun and eat a lot!
     
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    I've always felt that time management was one of my skills.

    Not yours?
     
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    Identify - by Article , Section and Clause - that constitutional proviso which authorizes the federal government to "support International Democratization" - whatever the fuck that means.

    Was the Shah Of Iran - Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi - an example of "supporting International Democratization"?!?!?

    .:eek:
     
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    What, exactly, is your problem with our support of the Shah, or do you mean the Carter stab-in-the-back that resulted in the current Iranian regime?

    As for Constitutional support, please provide same for bailouts and the 'redistribution of wealth." Did you have a problem with "Voice of America" broadcasts, or with the Obama Administration "The Obama administration has cut funding for pro-democracy and human rights programs in Iran, ..."
    Obama Cuts Pro-Democracy Funds for Iran


    In a word, are you advocating isolationism?
     
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