Should The Senate Go Back To Being Elected By The State Legislatures?

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Should The Senate Go Back To Being Elected By The State Legislatures?

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  1. Publius1787
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    Should The Senate Go Back To Being Elected By The State Legislatures?

    Most of us know that the U.S. Senate used to be elected by the state legeslatures. The founding fathers did this on purpose so that the states would have a say in government. Of course, this was done away with via the 17th amendment despite the fact that the U.S. House of Represenatives was allready the peoples house which was popularly elected. To date, all congressmen are elected via popular vote and we now have a federal government that caters to popularism at the expense of the 10th Amendment in the Bill of Rights. Today the federal government raises taxes on the states and forces the states to pass laws that the federal government cannot constitutionaly make them do in order to get their money back, an extortion that no doubt our founders wanted to prevent. Moreover, the Supreme Court Justices, Treaty's, and other nominations and Senate duty's are carried out by a popularly elected body opposite the wishes of the founding fathers. Furthermore, in light of the current health care law (Obamacare) being contested by 25, if not currently more, states, would this have been prevented if the states had a say in the federal government as they used to? For those who wonder what happened to the 10th amendment, look no further than the 17th. Should The Senate Go Back To Being Elected By The State Legislatures?


    Article 1 Section 3: The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, chosen by the Legislature thereof

    The 17th Amendment: The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, elected by the people thereof

    The 10th Amendment: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

     
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    Dunno... that is a good question because I like the fact that not all governmental officials are chosen the same way... this way not every official/position is elected by merely popular vote... keeping more in line with the balance of power..

    However... this was changed via the amendment process, which I fully support... unlike the changes our government loves to do without constitutional amendment...

    So... I guess what I am trying to say.. is that I would support the old way or the current way without much of a gripe... as long as if the change back to the old system would be facilitated thru the amendment process
     
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    The Founders were wiser men than the progressives. Nuff said.
     
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    Well it is true that progressives passed both the 16th and 17th amendments to impliment sweeping usurpations of liberty and destroy any say in government by the states. Now the federal government taxes the states and forces the states to pass laws that the federal government could not constitutionally do themselves to get that money back in to the states where it came from. Its certainly a violation of the checks and balances that were origionally intended. More importantly today, if there was no 17th Amendment there would be no Obamacare.The progressive era is perhaps one of the worse eras in American history when it came toward the destruction of individual liberty and the begining of the creep toward socialism.
     
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    I guess for now on I will add a "Dont Care" option to my polls.
     
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    No.
     
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    We basically have a problem of too much democracy and not enough responsibility in this country. That's why we're in this mess: everyone wants gov't bennies but thinks someone else should pay for them.
    While "consent of the governed" is the cornerstone of our government, that doesn't mean mob rule, which is pretty much what we have.
     
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    Absolutely.

    The 17th Amendment completely eliminated the veto power of the state legislatures (the people charged with collecting apportioned federal taxes) over federal budgets....This was no accident.
     
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    The voters would never stand for not being able to elect their Senators

    We have enough back room dealing thank-you
     

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