CDZ Should Roe v. Wade be overturned?

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    So would you be OK with restricting abortions after the first trimester?
     
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    That's nice, buddy.... let me know when you get all the deadbeat dads we have out there now before you talk about creating any more.

    Well, no, it really doesn't... issue was decided 45 years ago with Roe.

    Awesome. Federalism is a stupid idea, anyway. No place in the modern world.

    The less power the states have, the better.

    Or the numbers I cite are accepted, as opposed to propaganda... otherwise, you get into arguing over 2 million imaginary gun uses to stop crime.

    When Abortion was Illegal (and Deadly): Seattle's Maternal Death Toll - Seattle Civil Rights and Labor History Project

    Centuries of inbreeding?

    Realistically, most folks have no idea who they are sending to their state capitals, because usually, these people have very little effect on their lives. Most people couldn't name their state rep on a bet.
     
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    Nope.

    First, I'm not a doctor, and I don't want to substitute my judgement for a doctor.
    Second, I'm all for abortion on demand because it ticks off the religious nuts....
    Third, this just isn't a decision politicians should be making. These decisions should be between a woman and her doctor.
     
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    I don't believe in such a thing as a deadbeat dad given the ruling in Roe v. Wade. Here body, her baby, her problem. If the father has equal rights with the mother the moment the baby leaves the womb, then you have a point. Otherwise, all the man is amounts to a financial revenue generating resource for "her" baby.

    To give you an analogy: If you and I got drunk together and drove off in my car and I wrecked it, would you pull half the deductible out of your pocket to get my car fixed or say, hey dude you made a conscious choice to drink and drive; it's your car; it's your problem???
     
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    That's actually a bad analogy, since nothing I did contributed to the crash. I just happened to be there.
     
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    You bought the booze. I'm broke, don't drink and have to be talked into it.
     
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    Actually, if I bought you the booze, I probably would have liability. In IL and a lot of other states, bars can be held liable if they sold you booze and you were clearly to intoxicated to drive.
     
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    You'd admit you bought the booze? Everybody would like to have a friend like that.
     
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    If there was a case to be made that I had, it would be kind of hard to deny... but you are getting off topic with a flawed analogy.
     
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    Valley girl?
     

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