Should House Democrats Investigate Trump?

[ThisIsMe]

So, what you are saying is that the left is not going to accept Mueller investigation. If that's the case, why did you go down that road. How many more investigations will the left keep initiating.

Problem is, what you are doing may play right into trumps hands. If/when the mueller investigations come up empty, and the next 2 years, if you cant prove anything, its going to be a big campaign point in 2020 for trump.

The left tipped their hand along time ago. Everyone knows this incessant need to investigate trump by the left is not about any kind if criminal activity, it's about your dislike of trump and desire to remove him from office or hurt his election chances.

I think over the next 2 years, more and more people will wake up to this fact, and become disenchanted by the Democrat party because of it.

mueller's mandate is limited to russia. he handed over any other unrelated intel to their respective prosecutors. that's why he has people from watergate & enron looking into trumpco's other dirty deeds.... then there's the SDNY. they be all over some RICO cases for sure.

Ok, but my premise still stands. The left was talking impeachment before trump was actually inaugurated. When the house regained a majority, they vowed for more investigations. It has been clear since trump was elected that this has always about removing him from office.

I just think over time, even the left will grow tired of the continual attacks and investigations, especially if, time after time, they keep coming up empty handed.

not true. you don't know how much info they have other than what they have allowed to go public. anything classified isn't revealed for good reason. & the fact that they aren't finished yet (due to the (R) majority closing it down before all info was gathered ) kinda blows your opinion right to hell.

And, the left doesnt know what info is out there either. They can speculate, and they can listen to what MSM thinks, but nobody knows. Most of what you are hearing now is that the mueller investigation likely hasn't got anything, nothing considered a smoking gun anyway. We just have to wait for the report and see. It may be that they do have incriminating evidence, or they may not.

Also, what Republican has shut down the mueller investigation? Ot has been allowed to run ots course. Nobody has shut it down.

Aside from that, the premise of my point was simply that this has never been about justice. It has always been about removing trump.

And, the left doesnt know what info is out there either.

some info is out there - the guilty pleas, the russian indictments...

They can speculate, and they can listen to what MSM thinks, but nobody knows.

oh please.... every intel agency we have is screaming that russia interfered & experts are saying the same based on what we DO know. who's not listening to them are the propagandists on FOX, limbaugh, brietbart, gateway pundit, american thinker, etc etc etc....

Most of what you are hearing now is that the mueller investigation likely hasn't got anything, nothing considered a smoking gun anyway.

what? i haven't heard anything even close to that. is that what your talking head pundits are suggesting?

We just have to wait for the report and see. It may be that they do have incriminating evidence, or they may not.

yep.

Also, what Republican has shut down the mueller investigation? Ot has been allowed to run ots course. Nobody has shut it down.

i didn't say they shut down the special councel... i said the (R)s shut down their investigations when they had the house. oh- devon is so tied up in this....

Aside from that, the premise of my point was simply that this has never been about justice. It has always been about removing trump.

Nothing contained in the mueller report has been released and is not known. What you know is only what MSM has speculated on. The guilty pleas that have been going on had nothing to do with russia and as of yet, nothing to do with trump. They were all tax fraud and such.

This is what I'm talking about. You have him convicted already, and really dont know what is happening. The biggest problem is that the left had him convicted in their minds before he was even inaugurated.

All in saying is, why cant we simply wait for the evidence to come out before we judge him.

 

[Meister]

But in the real world, that didn't happen.

That only happened in Nutterville --- cue Twilight Zone intro music --- and that was proven with the endless hearings on Benghazi, in which NO WRONGDOING was found to have occured on the part of Hillary Clinton.

Let's face it. The only reason those hearings were even held was because the pubes knew Hillary was going to, and did run for president.

How many endless hearings on everything and anything Trump needs to take place..... no wrongdoing.

Really, no wrong doing? How do you know that? Have you gotten a hold of Bob Mueller's investigative findings report?

Oh that's right, you're just going by what your messiah tells you, nevermind.

But on the same token, the left has been sure that trump is guilty, before seeing the report.

I say, let's see what comes out of it.

Let’s open it and see what is inside. Why the wait?

I agree. Let's open it. The wait is because mueller hasn't released it yet, unless I've missed some of the news.

Once the report is released, then we can either condemn or exonerate trump. My point is, let's not convict him until we know.

You know as well as I know that the left will never exonerate Trump.
They have started to downplay the mueller probe in anticipation of it being a nothing burger. That is why they have got a group to go fishing looking for a crime to investigate.

 

[Harry Dresden]

How many endless hearings on everything and anything Trump needs to take place..... no wrongdoing.

Really, no wrong doing? How do you know that? Have you gotten a hold of Bob Mueller's investigative findings report?

Oh that's right, you're just going by what your messiah tells you, nevermind.

But on the same token, the left has been sure that trump is guilty, before seeing the report.

I say, let's see what comes out of it.

Let’s open it and see what is inside. Why the wait?

I agree. Let's open it. The wait is because mueller hasn't released it yet, unless I've missed some of the news.

Once the report is released, then we can either condemn or exonerate trump. My point is, let's not convict him until we know.

You know as well as I know that the left will never exonerate Trump.
They have started to downplay the mueller probe in anticipation of it being a nothing burger. That is why they have got a group to go fishing looking for a crime to investigate.

that sure as hell is what it looks like is happening...

 

[ThisIsMe]

Well, let's see if anything comes of the Cohen testimony. He has been testifying to the house committee in closed door session for at least 2 days. It's possible something may come of that.

I'm not going to say trump is innocent or guilty, but we should at least wait until something substantive comes up before we say he is guilty.

 

[LeftofLeft]

But in the real world, that didn't happen.

That only happened in Nutterville --- cue Twilight Zone intro music --- and that was proven with the endless hearings on Benghazi, in which NO WRONGDOING was found to have occured on the part of Hillary Clinton.

Let's face it. The only reason those hearings were even held was because the pubes knew Hillary was going to, and did run for president.

How many endless hearings on everything and anything Trump needs to take place..... no wrongdoing.

Really, no wrong doing? How do you know that? Have you gotten a hold of Bob Mueller's investigative findings report?

Oh that's right, you're just going by what your messiah tells you, nevermind.

But on the same token, the left has been sure that trump is guilty, before seeing the report.

I say, let's see what comes out of it.

Let’s open it and see what is inside. Why the wait?

Eh, because he's not finished yet.

And when his investigation is complete, I hope we get to see all of it, but I guess ultimately that is up to Mr. Barr.

It will never be finished which is why Trump is being investigated on everything Trump.

 

[LeftofLeft]

How many endless hearings on everything and anything Trump needs to take place..... no wrongdoing.

Really, no wrong doing? How do you know that? Have you gotten a hold of Bob Mueller's investigative findings report?

Oh that's right, you're just going by what your messiah tells you, nevermind.

But on the same token, the left has been sure that trump is guilty, before seeing the report.

I say, let's see what comes out of it.

Let’s open it and see what is inside. Why the wait?

I agree. Let's open it. The wait is because mueller hasn't released it yet, unless I've missed some of the news.

Once the report is released, then we can either condemn or exonerate trump. My point is, let's not convict him until we know.

You know as well as I know that the left will never exonerate Trump.
They have started to downplay the mueller probe in anticipation of it being a nothing burger. That is why they have got a group to go fishing looking for a crime to investigate.

This is going to backfire. The Left has nothing to offer. All of their resources is in Get Trump.

 

[playtime]

mueller's mandate is limited to russia. he handed over any other unrelated intel to their respective prosecutors. that's why he has people from watergate & enron looking into trumpco's other dirty deeds.... then there's the SDNY. they be all over some RICO cases for sure.

Ok, but my premise still stands. The left was talking impeachment before trump was actually inaugurated. When the house regained a majority, they vowed for more investigations. It has been clear since trump was elected that this has always about removing him from office.

I just think over time, even the left will grow tired of the continual attacks and investigations, especially if, time after time, they keep coming up empty handed.

not true. you don't know how much info they have other than what they have allowed to go public. anything classified isn't revealed for good reason. & the fact that they aren't finished yet (due to the (R) majority closing it down before all info was gathered ) kinda blows your opinion right to hell.

And, the left doesnt know what info is out there either. They can speculate, and they can listen to what MSM thinks, but nobody knows. Most of what you are hearing now is that the mueller investigation likely hasn't got anything, nothing considered a smoking gun anyway. We just have to wait for the report and see. It may be that they do have incriminating evidence, or they may not.

Also, what Republican has shut down the mueller investigation? Ot has been allowed to run ots course. Nobody has shut it down.

Aside from that, the premise of my point was simply that this has never been about justice. It has always been about removing trump.

And, the left doesnt know what info is out there either.

some info is out there - the guilty pleas, the russian indictments...

They can speculate, and they can listen to what MSM thinks, but nobody knows.

oh please.... every intel agency we have is screaming that russia interfered & experts are saying the same based on what we DO know. who's not listening to them are the propagandists on FOX, limbaugh, brietbart, gateway pundit, american thinker, etc etc etc....

Most of what you are hearing now is that the mueller investigation likely hasn't got anything, nothing considered a smoking gun anyway.

what? i haven't heard anything even close to that. is that what your talking head pundits are suggesting?

We just have to wait for the report and see. It may be that they do have incriminating evidence, or they may not.

yep.

Also, what Republican has shut down the mueller investigation? Ot has been allowed to run ots course. Nobody has shut it down.

i didn't say they shut down the special councel... i said the (R)s shut down their investigations when they had the house. oh- devon is so tied up in this....

Aside from that, the premise of my point was simply that this has never been about justice. It has always been about removing trump.

Nothing contained in the mueller report has been released and is not known. What you know is only what MSM has speculated on. The guilty pleas that have been going on had nothing to do with russia and as of yet, nothing to do with trump. They were all tax fraud and such.

This is what I'm talking about. You have him convicted already, and really dont know what is happening. The biggest problem is that the left had him convicted in their minds before he was even inaugurated.

All in saying is, why cant we simply wait for the evidence to come out before we judge him.

of course we wait for mueller & the outcomes of the intel, judiciary, oversight, & the ways & means committees as well. but my god, dude......... trump's orbit is chock full of people that aren't kosher.... to say the least. he has surrounded himself with the dregs of society, but people look the other way because of how much cash they have.

thinking bipeds that hold the court of public opinion know what's right in front of them based on what's already been happening.

flynn, gates, roger stone, papadopulous, cohen, manafort, corzi, jared, traitor tot, the russians in the oval office.... Natalia Veselnitskaya.... helsinki.... how much more 'coincidences' do you need to raise an eyebrow of suspician that things just don't look good for donny?

 

[playtime]

How many endless hearings on everything and anything Trump needs to take place..... no wrongdoing.

Really, no wrong doing? How do you know that? Have you gotten a hold of Bob Mueller's investigative findings report?

Oh that's right, you're just going by what your messiah tells you, nevermind.

But on the same token, the left has been sure that trump is guilty, before seeing the report.

I say, let's see what comes out of it.

Let’s open it and see what is inside. Why the wait?

I agree. Let's open it. The wait is because mueller hasn't released it yet, unless I've missed some of the news.

Once the report is released, then we can either condemn or exonerate trump. My point is, let's not convict him until we know.

You know as well as I know that the left will never exonerate Trump.
They have started to downplay the mueller probe in anticipation of it being a nothing burger. That is why they have got a group to go fishing looking for a crime to investigate.

uh - no. the house said that if the report isn't released - they will subpoena mueller... that kinda says the opposite.

 

[playtime]

Really, no wrong doing? How do you know that? Have you gotten a hold of Bob Mueller's investigative findings report?

Oh that's right, you're just going by what your messiah tells you, nevermind.

But on the same token, the left has been sure that trump is guilty, before seeing the report.

I say, let's see what comes out of it.

Let’s open it and see what is inside. Why the wait?

I agree. Let's open it. The wait is because mueller hasn't released it yet, unless I've missed some of the news.

Once the report is released, then we can either condemn or exonerate trump. My point is, let's not convict him until we know.

You know as well as I know that the left will never exonerate Trump.
They have started to downplay the mueller probe in anticipation of it being a nothing burger. That is why they have got a group to go fishing looking for a crime to investigate.

that sure as hell is what it looks like is happening...

maybe in bizarro world...........

 

[playtime]

Well, let's see if anything comes of the Cohen testimony. He has been testifying to the house committee in closed door session for at least 2 days. It's possible something may come of that.

I'm not going to say trump is innocent or guilty, but we should at least wait until something substantive comes up before we say he is guilty.

the 2nd time cohen went in, he had a huge amt of paper to back up his testimony from day one & may provide even more paper. that is all the stuff that was seized when his office was raided months ago & whatever he has, mueller et al already checked it out. the intel committee is playing catch up because the (D)s were denied the opportunity to properly conduct their investigation for 2 years. one of the 1st things shiff did - was send along the transcripts of hearings from the previous 2 years to mueller. something the (R)s refused to do as well.

 

[LoneLaugher]

It isn't a question of should or shouldn't.

1) The DOJ has a policy against indicting a sitting president and they also have a policy which discourages issuing accusations of crimes without accompanying indictments.

2) The only method of holding a sitting president accountable is, therefore, political. It is oversight and, if warranted, impeachment.

3) Thus, the House has no choice. It is their duty to conduct these investigations.

 

[Harry Dresden]

But on the same token, the left has been sure that trump is guilty, before seeing the report.

I say, let's see what comes out of it.

Let’s open it and see what is inside. Why the wait?

I agree. Let's open it. The wait is because mueller hasn't released it yet, unless I've missed some of the news.

Once the report is released, then we can either condemn or exonerate trump. My point is, let's not convict him until we know.

You know as well as I know that the left will never exonerate Trump.
They have started to downplay the mueller probe in anticipation of it being a nothing burger. That is why they have got a group to go fishing looking for a crime to investigate.

that sure as hell is what it looks like is happening...

maybe in bizarro world...........

no in the real world....

 

[Kondor3]

Yes.

Time to investigate Trump at the Congressional level, with a more skeptical eye than the Republicans had used earlier in their pro forma.

 

[Meister]

Yes.

Time to investigate Trump at the Congressional level, with a more skeptical eye than the Republicans had used earlier in their pro forma.

What crime? Or, just to investigate something....anything? What a clown, Kondor

 

[Meister]

Really, no wrong doing? How do you know that? Have you gotten a hold of Bob Mueller's investigative findings report?

Oh that's right, you're just going by what your messiah tells you, nevermind.

But on the same token, the left has been sure that trump is guilty, before seeing the report.

I say, let's see what comes out of it.

Let’s open it and see what is inside. Why the wait?

I agree. Let's open it. The wait is because mueller hasn't released it yet, unless I've missed some of the news.

Once the report is released, then we can either condemn or exonerate trump. My point is, let's not convict him until we know.

You know as well as I know that the left will never exonerate Trump.
They have started to downplay the mueller probe in anticipation of it being a nothing burger. That is why they have got a group to go fishing looking for a crime to investigate.

uh - no. the house said that if the report isn't released - they will subpoena mueller... that kinda says the opposite.

For what crime? Shouldn't be a hard question for you.

 

[WTH_Progs?]

Should they waste time & money because the Democrats are butt-hurt & corrupted useless fucks?

 

[playtime]

But on the same token, the left has been sure that trump is guilty, before seeing the report.

I say, let's see what comes out of it.

Let’s open it and see what is inside. Why the wait?

I agree. Let's open it. The wait is because mueller hasn't released it yet, unless I've missed some of the news.

Once the report is released, then we can either condemn or exonerate trump. My point is, let's not convict him until we know.

You know as well as I know that the left will never exonerate Trump.
They have started to downplay the mueller probe in anticipation of it being a nothing burger. That is why they have got a group to go fishing looking for a crime to investigate.

uh - no. the house said that if the report isn't released - they will subpoena mueller... that kinda says the opposite.

For what crime? Shouldn't be a hard question for you.

who said anything about a crime? if mueller is subpoenaed, he cannot disobey & will hafta answer questions about what is in the report. & that's even if the AG wants him to refrain from doing so....

mueller investigation

Schiff: 'We will bring Bob Mueller in to testify' if report not made public
By QUINT FORGEY
02/24/2019 09:46 AM EST

House Intelligence Chairman Adam Schiff on Sunday threatened to call Robert Mueller to Capitol Hill and subpoena his investigative findings if Attorney General William Barr does not make public the special counsel’s highly anticipated report.

“We will obviously subpoena the report. We will bring Bob Mueller in to testify before Congress. We will take it to court if necessary,” Schiff told host George Stephanopoulos on ABC’s “This Week.”

“In the end, I think the Department [of Justice] understands they’re going to have to make this public. I think Barr will ultimately understand that, as well,” Schiff said.
[...]
Schiff: 'We will bring Bob Mueller in to testify' if report not made public

duh.

 

[Kondor3]

Yes.

Time to investigate Trump at the Congressional level, with a more skeptical eye than the Republicans had used earlier in their pro forma.

What crime? Or, just to investigate something....anything? What a clown, Kondor

Probable cause... pick a subtopic... or two... or ten... but not to worry... the House will handle it...

 

[Dale Smith]

Some say it could backfire and serve to re-elect Trump in 2020. However, Trump has had free reign for the past two years when Republicans were in charge - so what choice do Democrats have but to provide responsible oversight according to the oath they swore to the U.S. Constitution? House Democrats won the majority by campaigning on holding Trump accountable. Personally, I want House Democrats to thoroughly investigate Trump - regardless of the outcome. Americans deserve to know the truth.

See below for the full list of people and groups that received document requests from the committee:

1. Alan Garten
2. Alexander Nix
3. Allen Weisselberg
4. American Media Inc
5. Anatoli Samochornov
6. Andrew Intrater
7. Annie Donaldson
8. Brad Parscale
9. Brittany Kaiser
10. Cambridge Analytica
11. Carter Page
12. Columbus Nova
13. Concord Management and Consulting
14. Corey Lewandowski
15. David Pecker
16. Department of Justice
17. Don McGahn
18. Donald J Trump Revocable Trust
19. Donald Trump Jr.
20. Dylan Howard
21. Eric Trump
22. Erik Prince
23. Federal Bureau of Investigation
24. Felix Sater
25. Flynn Intel Group
26. General Services Administration
27. George Nader
28. George Papadopoulos
29. Hope Hicks
30. Irakly Kaveladze
31. Jared Kushner
32. Jason Maloni
33. Jay Sekulow
34. Jeff Sessions
35. Jerome Corsi
36. John Szobocsan
37. Julian Assange
38. Julian David Wheatland
39. Keith Davidson
40. KT McFarland
41. Mark Corallo
42. Matt Tait
43. Matthew Calamari
44. Michael Caputo
45. Michael Cohen
46. Michael Flynn
47. Michael Flynn Jr.
48. Paul Erickson
49. Paul Manafort
50. Peter Smith (Estate)
51. Randy Credico
52. Reince Priebus
53. Rhona Graff
54. Rinat Akhmetshin
55. Rob Goldstone
56. Roger Stone
57. Ronald Lieberman
58. Sam Nunberg
59. SCL Group Limited
60. Sean Spicer
61. Sheri Dillon
62. Stefan Passantino
63. Steve Bannon
64. Ted Malloch
65. The White House
66. Trump Campaign
67. Trump Foundation
68. Trump Organization
69. Trump Transition
70. Viktor Vekselberg
71. Wikileaks
72. 58th Presidential Inaugural Committee
73. Christopher Bancroft Burnham
74. Frontier Services Group
75. J.D. Gordon
76. Kushner Companies
77. NRA
78. Rick Gates
79. Tom Barrack
80. Tom Bossert
81. Tony Fabrizio

START YOUR ENGINES: HOUSE DEMS KICK OFF TRUMP PROBE!

Here Are The 81 People And Entities Close To Trump Democrats Are Investigating

So, basically anyone that supports Trump and opposes the deep state on the their puppets that make up the demcrat commie party of sniveling cowards?

"Investigate" them into running up huge attorney fees. I would like to see financial records of all these millionaire fabian socialists that have become career politicians.

 

[Kondor3]

Some say it could backfire and serve to re-elect Trump in 2020. However, Trump has had free reign for the past two years when Republicans were in charge - so what choice do Democrats have but to provide responsible oversight according to the oath they swore to the U.S. Constitution? House Democrats won the majority by campaigning on holding Trump accountable. Personally, I want House Democrats to thoroughly investigate Trump - regardless of the outcome. Americans deserve to know the truth.

See below for the full list of people and groups that received document requests from the committee:

1. Alan Garten
2. Alexander Nix
3. Allen Weisselberg
4. American Media Inc
5. Anatoli Samochornov
6. Andrew Intrater
7. Annie Donaldson
8. Brad Parscale
9. Brittany Kaiser
10. Cambridge Analytica
11. Carter Page
12. Columbus Nova
13. Concord Management and Consulting
14. Corey Lewandowski
15. David Pecker
16. Department of Justice
17. Don McGahn
18. Donald J Trump Revocable Trust
19. Donald Trump Jr.
20. Dylan Howard
21. Eric Trump
22. Erik Prince
23. Federal Bureau of Investigation
24. Felix Sater
25. Flynn Intel Group
26. General Services Administration
27. George Nader
28. George Papadopoulos
29. Hope Hicks
30. Irakly Kaveladze
31. Jared Kushner
32. Jason Maloni
33. Jay Sekulow
34. Jeff Sessions
35. Jerome Corsi
36. John Szobocsan
37. Julian Assange
38. Julian David Wheatland
39. Keith Davidson
40. KT McFarland
41. Mark Corallo
42. Matt Tait
43. Matthew Calamari
44. Michael Caputo
45. Michael Cohen
46. Michael Flynn
47. Michael Flynn Jr.
48. Paul Erickson
49. Paul Manafort
50. Peter Smith (Estate)
51. Randy Credico
52. Reince Priebus
53. Rhona Graff
54. Rinat Akhmetshin
55. Rob Goldstone
56. Roger Stone
57. Ronald Lieberman
58. Sam Nunberg
59. SCL Group Limited
60. Sean Spicer
61. Sheri Dillon
62. Stefan Passantino
63. Steve Bannon
64. Ted Malloch
65. The White House
66. Trump Campaign
67. Trump Foundation
68. Trump Organization
69. Trump Transition
70. Viktor Vekselberg
71. Wikileaks
72. 58th Presidential Inaugural Committee
73. Christopher Bancroft Burnham
74. Frontier Services Group
75. J.D. Gordon
76. Kushner Companies
77. NRA
78. Rick Gates
79. Tom Barrack
80. Tom Bossert
81. Tony Fabrizio

START YOUR ENGINES: HOUSE DEMS KICK OFF TRUMP PROBE!

Here Are The 81 People And Entities Close To Trump Democrats Are Investigating

So, basically anyone that supports Trump and opposes the deep state on the their puppets that make up the demcrat commie party of sniveling cowards?

"Investigate" them into running up huge attorney fees. I would like to see financial records of all these millionaire fabian socialists that have become career politicians.

No problem.

Trump first, though.