Should AG Garland appoint a SC to investigate Reps. Comer and Jordan?

[SeaMajor7]

For a number of reasons, it is rare for the FBI to charge one of its informants with lying. First, the bureau tries to encourage people with important information to come forward, sometimes at great risk to themselves, and arresting some of the people who do so might discourage others from becoming informants. Second, many agents tend to view informants as frequently wrong or dishonest and don’t think it is worth trying to build a criminal case out of those flaws.

But in Smirnov’s case, Republicans made his allegations a kind of cause célèbre, saying he had offered key information in their probe of Hunter Biden and the president. FBI officials were repeatedly forced to answer politicians’ questions about Smirnov’s claims and faced accusations from conservatives that the FBI itself may be corrupt.

You could say rabid House Repubs forced the FBI's hand.

The only ones that are RABID is you contaminated Marxist ASSHOLES!!!!

 

[tyroneweaver]

Now that Jim and Gym, like a bag of stolen cash, have had the "Biden is on the take" fantasy blow up in their faces it may be time for Merrick to do a deep dive in to their conduct. Cuz the proverbial handwriting has been on the wall for a while now regarding Smirnov's spurious accusations. So one might reasonably ask the Nixonian question, what did they know and when did they know it.

Let's do a quick review of the facts.

Former FBI informant charged with lying about Biden business​

Rep. Jamie Raskin (Md.), the ranking Democrat on the Oversight Committee, said the charges against Smirnov show GOP efforts to impeach the president are “based on a lie” and called on House Republicans to drop the inquiry.

The Washington Post reported last spring that an FBI document containing the informant’s claims was previously reviewed by the FBI under then-Attorney General William P. Barr, found not to be supported by facts, and subsequently dropped. When Comer’s team demanded to see the document, FBI officials warned that wider disclosure of the information could jeopardize the safety of a confidential source.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/02/15/hunter-biden-informant-indicted-fbi-burisma/

You can imagine how motivated Billy the Bagman was to verify accusations against Joe in the highly weaponized Trump DoJ. Nothing would have pleased The Boss more and Billy was all about pleasing The Boss (exoneration....hello!). Though, as it happens, factual verification isn't really necessary for Repubs when it comes to creating a damaging narrative against their political opponents.

Barr's declination to pursue the substance of Smirnov's claims (which should have ended the matter right then and there) wasn't the only indication they had no basis. Testimony from multiple witnesses during the 1/6 hearings from people inside the Trump admin repeatedly knocked down the idea of shady goings on by Biden with respect to Burisma. These were officials in a position to know. But like so much of the evidence that investigation revealed, it was not flattering to Dear Leader so it was dismissed.

So, despite Barr's examination of the facts and finding nothing, the lack of damning 1/6 testimony, and the House Repub's own investigation in to Hunter and his dad also finding nothing, Jim and Gym (along with endless coverage from RWM) flogged the subject to death. Which is not to go so far as to say they are Putin's puppets in the sense Vlad was directing them. But it's fair to say they've done what he would have wanted them to do. Namely, smear the opponent of his favored candidate, the makeup wearing Orange Fraud.

Are the Jim's exposed to charges of election interference given how they ignored the flashing neon signs saying there was no there, there. Or should it be chalked up to routine, Repub dirty politics? Are consequences called for by virtue of working so hard to spread Smirnov's lies given there will be no electoral consequences? I mean come on, expecting their constituents to punish them at the ballot box for the unethical conduct they engaged in is a joke. Repubs reward such behavior.

Perhaps the best solution would be for Mike Johnson to publicly admit his approval of a Biden impeachment inquiry was a mistake. Founded on thin air and lies. When the announcement is made he should be joined by the disgraced men most responsible for hyping Smirnov's lies. Who, if they had a shred of integrity, would issue an apology for the extraordinarily disgusting, hyper-partisan hackery resulting in millions of Repubs being eagerly, indeed gleefully, disinformed.

tell us what did he lie about
oh, he said the date was around 2015, 2016 so he wasn't precise to beging with
So the doj said it was 2017 so that was the big llie. The Bidens took bribes period
Biden said in a speech that he intended to keep in tough with ukraine after he was out

If this is such a big deal why isn't the doj arresting christopher steal?

 

[CowboyTed]

Now that Jim and Gym, like a bag of stolen cash, have had the "Biden is on the take" fantasy blow up in their faces it may be time for Merrick to do a deep dive in to their conduct. Cuz the proverbial handwriting has been on the wall for a while now regarding Smirnov's spurious accusations. So one might reasonably ask the Nixonian question, what did they know and when did they know it.

Let's do a quick review of the facts.

Former FBI informant charged with lying about Biden business​

Rep. Jamie Raskin (Md.), the ranking Democrat on the Oversight Committee, said the charges against Smirnov show GOP efforts to impeach the president are “based on a lie” and called on House Republicans to drop the inquiry.

The Washington Post reported last spring that an FBI document containing the informant’s claims was previously reviewed by the FBI under then-Attorney General William P. Barr, found not to be supported by facts, and subsequently dropped. When Comer’s team demanded to see the document, FBI officials warned that wider disclosure of the information could jeopardize the safety of a confidential source.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/02/15/hunter-biden-informant-indicted-fbi-burisma/

You can imagine how motivated Billy the Bagman was to verify accusations against Joe in the highly weaponized Trump DoJ. Nothing would have pleased The Boss more and Billy was all about pleasing The Boss (exoneration....hello!). Though, as it happens, factual verification isn't really necessary for Repubs when it comes to creating a damaging narrative against their political opponents.

Barr's declination to pursue the substance of Smirnov's claims (which should have ended the matter right then and there) wasn't the only indication they had no basis. Testimony from multiple witnesses during the 1/6 hearings from people inside the Trump admin repeatedly knocked down the idea of shady goings on by Biden with respect to Burisma. These were officials in a position to know. But like so much of the evidence that investigation revealed, it was not flattering to Dear Leader so it was dismissed.

So, despite Barr's examination of the facts and finding nothing, the lack of damning 1/6 testimony, and the House Repub's own investigation in to Hunter and his dad also finding nothing, Jim and Gym (along with endless coverage from RWM) flogged the subject to death. Which is not to go so far as to say they are Putin's puppets in the sense Vlad was directing them. But it's fair to say they've done what he would have wanted them to do. Namely, smear the opponent of his favored candidate, the makeup wearing Orange Fraud.

Are the Jim's exposed to charges of election interference given how they ignored the flashing neon signs saying there was no there, there. Or should it be chalked up to routine, Repub dirty politics? Are consequences called for by virtue of working so hard to spread Smirnov's lies given there will be no electoral consequences? I mean come on, expecting their constituents to punish them at the ballot box for the unethical conduct they engaged in is a joke. Repubs reward such behavior.

Perhaps the best solution would be for Mike Johnson to publicly admit his approval of a Biden impeachment inquiry was a mistake. Founded on thin air and lies. When the announcement is made he should be joined by the disgraced men most responsible for hyping Smirnov's lies. Who, if they had a shred of integrity, would issue an apology for the extraordinarily disgusting, hyper-partisan hackery resulting in millions of Repubs being eagerly, indeed gleefully, disinformed.

I am big on taking the lads accusations seriously...

Set up a FBI team to investigate their claims, interview them (under oath). Get all the details...

Have the whole investigation transparent as hell... Make it all clear... Have a weekly/Monthly press conference of an update of what has been found...

Make it fucking clear if you open your mouth and make these allegations, it will be taken seriously and investigated.


Let's start with MTG accusation of the Jewish Space Lazers... Let's take her desposition of what she knows and which Jews are guilty of arson... MTG is holding information of a crime, she should not be hiding this crime from the FBI when asked... She is an elected representative and she says something it should be investigated..

 

[SeaMajor7]

I am big on taking the lads accusations seriously...

Set up a FBI team to investigate their claims, interview them (under oath). Get all the details...

Have the whole investigation transparent as hell... Make it all clear... Have a weekly/Monthly press conference of an update of what has been found...

Make it fucking clear if you open your mouth and make these allegations, it will be taken seriously and investigated.


Let's start with MTG accusation of the Jewish Space Lazers... Let's take her desposition of what she knows and which Jews are guilty of arson... MTG is holding information of a crime, she should not be hiding this crime from the FBI when asked... She is an elected representative and she says something it should be investigated..

LAWFARE is the last resort of the demented avenger subverted demoralized Stalinist Marxist Leninist zombie ASSHOLES.
Thanks for highlighting that FACT, cowboi.

 

[DBA]

The question is, why wouldn't you go bonkers? Unless, of course, autocratic rule is your thing.

On that note, I bet you are perfectly ok with the Trump fraud case ruling in NY?

 

[DBA]

I'm pretty sure the irony of what you said eluded your notice. You fuckpods were ready to impeach Biden based on lies the totalitarian ruler of Russia fed to Repubs through a lying informant. I said investigate, not charge or incarcerate. You Repubs can't stop yourselves from making shit up.

The left appointed a SC to investigate Trump based on a fake dossier and LIED to the FISA court on top of that. You don’t have a point.

 

[berg80]

tell us what did he lie about
oh, he said the date was around 2015, 2016 so he wasn't precise to beging with
So the doj said it was 2017 so that was the big llie. The Bidens took bribes period
Biden said in a speech that he intended to keep in tough with ukraine after he was out

If this is such a big deal why isn't the doj arresting christopher steal?

Do you mean Chris Steele or was that a lame attempt at a joke?

 

[berg80]

The left appointed a SC to investigate Trump based on a fade dossier

But the dossier!!!

C'mon now, let's not rehash old, thoroughly debunked lies. There's enough lying going on from conservatives as it is.

 

[berg80]

I am big on taking the lads accusations seriously...

Set up a FBI team to investigate their claims, interview them (under oath). Get all the details...

Have the whole investigation transparent as hell... Make it all clear... Have a weekly/Monthly press conference of an update of what has been found...

Make it fucking clear if you open your mouth and make these allegations, it will be taken seriously and investigated.


Let's start with MTG accusation of the Jewish Space Lazers... Let's take her desposition of what she knows and which Jews are guilty of arson... MTG is holding information of a crime, she should not be hiding this crime from the FBI when asked... She is an elected representative and she says something it should be investigated..

The FBI would have to hire 100 new agents just to investigate the lies coming from the Freedom Caucus.

 

[berg80]

Tensions on Capitol Hill have escalated this week after lawmakers viewed the form in question, with both Raskin and Comer publicly sharing disparate retellings of what occurred in the secured meeting.
Raskin said the FBI and Justice Department under then-Attorney General William P. Barr reviewed the allegations contained in the form and determined there were no grounds of further investigative steps. Comer has asserted that the FBI representatives in Monday’s meeting refused to answer some of his questions because they said the information in the form was being used in an ongoing investigation.

An investigation by Weiss in to whether Smirnov was lying?

Comer should have listened to Raskin.

 

[DBA]

But the dossier!!!

C'mon now, let's not rehash old, thoroughly debunked lies. There's enough lying going on from conservatives as it is.

You guys make deranged people seem sane.

 

[1srelluc]

You just made a thread suggesting that Comer and Jordan should be arrested cuz some Russian dude lied... maybe.

LOL....And don't forget, the FBI said the guy was the best CI ever, used him for years they said.

If true it makes you wonder how many other people were hung-up on his "best ever CI" testimony.

 

[wamose]

If a grand jury votes to indict or if the evidence is so compelling an arrest is warranted, yes. But an investigation comes first.

In a political setting, investigations have been a waste of time all the way back to the bogus Warren Commission. Investigations nowadays either have predetermined conclusions (J6, Russia collusion, Clinton emails or all the current Trump investigations) or they're delaying procedures beyond the point of caring (Meuller, Durham) or they're trying to run the statute of limitations out (Hunters laptop), or they're justification investigations like the one concerning Biden that found his felonies were just the result of being a friendly old dude with a bad memory, or they're just trying to protect likewise guilty criminals like the FBI-DOJ, (McCabe, Strzok, Page, Brennen, Comey, Clapper). Investigations are as useless and crooked as the campaign poll that had Hillary ahead by 16% on election day in 2016. MAGA

 

[berg80]

You guys make deranged people seem sane.

Thanks for going back to gratuitous insults rather than persist with more dossier nonsense.

 

[Oddball]

Pfff, the damage has not been done YET, but it will be done as soon as Biden loses and then pardons himself, at which point all these "Biden is innocent" threads are going to be quite embarrassing for you guys. How the hell are you going to explain pardons for crimes that you guys have repeatedly said never happened?

I wish all the Nick Sandman threads weren't all whisked out of public view, to protect these moonbats from eating the slanderous and embarrassing shit they said back then.

 

[Godboy]

If a grand jury votes to indict or if the evidence is so compelling an arrest is warranted, yes. But an investigation comes first.

So you ARE seeking their arrest. Thats what i thought, hypocrite.

 

[berg80]

Republican Congressman Ken Buck said that House members "were warned" that allegations leveled by an ex-FBI informant regarding President Joe Biden's business dealings may not be credible.

Alexander Smirnov, whose statements about the Biden family's alleged dealings in Ukraine drove the Republican-led push for an impeachment inquiry against the president, was charged last week, accused of lying to the FBI and manufacturing fraudulent records. According to the indictment, Smirnov fabricated claims that Biden and his son, Hunter Biden, each sought $5 million bribes from Ukrainian energy company Burisma in exchange for favors while Biden served as vice president.

GOP congressman says colleagues "were warned" about ex-FBI informant

Representative Ken Buck told CNN that the charges against Alexander Smirnov undermine the impeachment inquiry into President Biden.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Curried Goats]

LAWFARE is the last resort of the demented avenger subverted demoralized Stalinist Marxist Leninist zombie ASSHOLES.
Thanks for highlighting that FACT, cowboi.

And we're watching Trump get smacked around courts in four separate districts. How many Republicans want to join him?

 

[Oddball]

Can you imagine how the left will go bonkers when President Trump gets back in office and has his AG going after Piglosi, and Schumer?

We should be so lucky.....Should also go after Romney...He's up to his armpits in Burisma poontang too.

 

[SeaMajor7]

And we're watching Trump get smacked around courts in four separate districts. How many Republicans want to join him?

Thanks for proving my point.