Serious Question for Lefties (re: separation of kids at border):

[Camp]

There are two separate issues. One is the separation. The second one is the inhumane treatment of the derained. Wherher you agree with the separation or not, the treatment of both the children and the adults qualifies as cruel and unusual, inhumane and disgraceful, unAmerican and criminal.

 

[toobfreak]

There are two separate issues. One is the separation. The second one is the inhumane treatment of the derained. Wherher you agree with the separation or not, the treatment of both the children and the adults qualifies as cruel and unusual, inhumane and disgraceful, unAmerican and criminal.

Idiot, the separation is standard procedure because the adults are processed through DHS and the kids go through HHS. As to the rest of your diatribe, the soap and the toilets and all that are just lies promulgated for idiots like you. Nothing is going on here that didn't occur under Obama.

 

[Camp]

There are two separate issues. One is the separation. The second one is the inhumane treatment of the derained. Wherher you agree with the separation or not, the treatment of both the children and the adults qualifies as cruel and unusual, inhumane and disgraceful, unAmerican and criminal.

Idiot, the separation is standard procedure because the adults are processed through DHS and the kids go through HHS. As to the rest of your diatribe, the soap and the toilets and all that are just lies promulgated for idiots like you. Nothing is going on here that didn't occur under Obama.

I believe you are a brainwashed delusional sucker and fool in serious denial.

 

[toobfreak]

There are two separate issues. One is the separation. The second one is the inhumane treatment of the derained. Wherher you agree with the separation or not, the treatment of both the children and the adults qualifies as cruel and unusual, inhumane and disgraceful, unAmerican and criminal.

Idiot, the separation is standard procedure because the adults are processed through DHS and the kids go through HHS. As to the rest of your diatribe, the soap and the toilets and all that are just lies promulgated for idiots like you. Nothing is going on here that didn't occur under Obama.

I believe you are a brainwashed delusional sucker and fool in serious denial.

Funny, I'm always impressed by your posts when you respond! The very fact that you manage to read and get half of what I say right and that 10% of your reply is fairly accurate never ceases to amaze me.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Suspicion confirmed. Leftists are idiots. Only anytime... was willing to tell the truth, and it is a sophomoric idiotic truth.

Kids are separated for a couple of good reasons. First, many of the kids are NOT the children of the adults who brought them. It is well known in the shit-hole countries of Central America that you have a better chance of being admitted if you have a kid or kids with you.

Second, many of those held at the border are criminals. They are drug traffickers, human traffickers, murderers, rapists, you name it. There is no way that the situation can be controlled sufficiently to protect children if they were all housed together. If these kids were harmed while in U.S. custody it would be a humanitarian and PR catastrophe.

There is nothing "political" about these factors, but one has to be a cogent adult to recognize them, which leaves out today's Leftists.

I guess only liberals are allowed to comment on your heavily biased thread. Oh well, fuck your suspicion.

I've personally experienced the illegal immigration issue for almost my entire life. And for almost my entire life, this has been an ingrained hot button issue for Republicans (Democrats too, but in a lesser fashion). For close to 40 years, the only thing that has been done by politicians to try and curb the situation has been band-aid solutions or non-starter-solutions. None of them have the introspection nor balls to admit that their ideas on illegal immigration suck.

I do not support any illegal immigration to the US from any other country. I also do not support paying their bills either. The meatheads of Cult45 believe if you don't support a wall, then you obviously must be for totally open borders. This binary simpleton's view is the current hyperbolic lie being floated around by Orange and his minions, and you don't even need to be a critical thinker to know it's complete bullshit.

The brainwashed Cult45 fuck tards also believe in simple solutions to complex problems because that's what the Orange Virus tells them to believe. There are a lot of these useful idiot meatheads right here, in fact. I say the only real viable solution would be having both the US and Mexico scrap their immigration systems and start over again since it's clearly overwhelmed and broken. But no, that's too hard for deplorables to wrap their tiny brains around. These idiots want their stupid WALL right now, completely disregarding the fact that more than a third of all unauthorized immigrants entered lawfully and then simply overstayed their visas. You immediately get crickets when you mention this to a Cult45 tard.

It's one reason the majority in this country call you deplorables (Thanks for the term, Hildawg, you skank). You opened up your tiny brains to the populist antics of a c-list ex-reality show host and they fell out of your stupid heads. If it were up to me, I wouldn't give any of your causes one red fucking cent.

The left wing has already lost it's shit in the opposite direction. They seem to want a complete end run around the Constitution, our immigration system and now even legislating entitlement programs for illegal aliens. FUCK. THAT. NOISE. We used to be a country where we succeeded based on merit. Now, certain ideologically naive members of Congress want to throw all that progress away because of feelings. Well, do it at your own peril, you idiots. If it were up to me, I wouldn't give any of your causes one red fucking cent. Want to lose elections? Because this is precisely how you do it.

Our current low effort, low energy *pResident's solution is detainment of any and all immigrants. Well, they've done it, and NOW WHAT, Cult45?? NOW WHAT? The fucking idiot clearly doesn't have an exit strategy. So the problem only exacerbates because our border patrol resources are now overwhelmed and will be for years manning of the ever growing number of detainment camps. Such a pointless and stupid idea.

When thought leaders finally decide to come to the table and decides to take this issue seriously, that's when you'll begin to see decreases in illegal immigration, and not a moment before nor after.

 

[bullwinkle]

Yes, you’re right. He does want to discourage/ stop ILLEGAL immigration. Does that offend you?

You mean all those detainees were caught sneaking across the border? They didn't go to facilities to apply for entry?

 

[leftwinger]

Yes, you’re right. He does want to discourage/ stop ILLEGAL immigration. Does that offend you?

You mean all those detainees were caught sneaking across the border? They didn't go to facilities to apply for entry?

Yes. Many walk across looking for guards to surrender. Where have you been?

And technically not allowed to work when set free to await hearing on phony asylum with 18mo backlog. Who pays for millions to live for years? Where do you put them?

 

[leftwinger]

remember at start of year wher the filthy lying Dems laughed and mocked about "manufactured crisis"? 100s' of thousands caught or surrender each month since. While the drugs and other criminals get in un-detected past over-worked guards changing diapers, cooking meals.


Now it such a crisis they cry on senate floor? They let it go on 7-8 months before they take a paid vacation to check it out. Who ramped up the invasion? Follow the money.

 

[bullwinkle]

remember at start of year wher the filthy lying Dems laughed and mocked about "manufactured crisis"? 100s' of thousands caught or surrender each month since. While the drugs and other criminals get in un-detected past over-worked guards changing diapers, cooking meals.

Actually, I DON'T remember Dems laughing and mocking about the 'manufactured' crisis. Nor do I remember complaints from guards for being too busy to guard because they were changing diapers and cooking meals (for immigrants?).
However, I DO believe the crisis is manufactured. You and the XO King are quick to blame Dems, but slow to take any action.

 

[leftwinger]

remember at start of year wher the filthy lying Dems laughed and mocked about "manufactured crisis"? 100s' of thousands caught or surrender each month since. While the drugs and other criminals get in un-detected past over-worked guards changing diapers, cooking meals.

Actually, I DON'T remember Dems laughing and mocking about the 'manufactured' crisis. Nor do I remember complaints from guards for being too busy to guard because they were changing diapers and cooking meals (for immigrants?).
However, I DO believe the crisis is manufactured. You and the XO King are quick to blame Dems, but slow to take any action.

Actually, I DON'T remember Dems laughing and mocking about the 'manufactured' crisis.

Pathetic again. It was non-stop at start of year when Chancy shut the Govt. as noted before you are too patheic for the list. Simply Sad.

 

[leftwinger]

Not enough is made of the fact these illegal border crossers are let loose in the USA, given a Court date but Technically NOT allowed to work!

This Court date could be two years out. 90% dont show up. How do they live? How are they expected to live? Who pays for "it"? No SS number. No legal status. Yet Congress rolls along with the dumping program. 100K per month this year. La-de-da

 

[Porter Rockwell]

Why do you suppose that our border forces are separating kids from the adults with whom they arrived at the border?

I would like a serious answer. "You" claim that the practice is evil and inhumane, and of course you infer that the evil and inhumane policy originated in the Trump White House. Because the President is evil.

But seriously, why do you suppose that we separate kids from adults at the border?

It don't take a lefty to give you the answer. You just won't like it.

Donald Trump is just as socialist as Nancy Pelosi. So he does things that are predicated on political guerrilla warfare. Whatever pretext Trump gives the dolts that support him, they will buy it. However, the MSM gets to dictate the narrative.

So the globalists deliberately flood the country to make low IQ people think a crisis exists. Then the people demand action. They want something done. And so, the globalists make it look like ICE has concentration camps. That will get the masses to react emotionally.

And then judges will decide that you cannot separate families as that practice is inhumane and a violation of the Eighth Amendment. Soon, the issues for the United States Supreme Court will sound like this:

1) What do we do with the millions of American born children where their parents are undocumented? We cannot uncitizen them. This will be the ONLY issue in a quarter of a century where the Supreme Court will enforce the ban on ex post facto laws. Children born in the USA even if their parents are undocumented have a birth certificate and the National ID REAL ID Act registration called a Socialist Surveillance Number or "Social Security Number."

2) You've already seen the optics of separating children from the parents. The only minds that got changed went left. Even some politicians switched parties over those bad optics

3) Trump knows he will lose, but if there were a way of having won that issue, Trump is taking it off the table. The left will be given greater and greater latitude in this political jockeying

Donald Trump is playing the people who obsess over "immigration." Trump is taking the right's options off the table and forcing the United States Supreme Court to make the ultimate decision - and that will remain irreversible unless and until another completely different Court over rules the current one. The right could work for a Constitutional Convention - and then we WILL have a clusterphuck on our hands.

Short answer: The optics of separation forces the country left; it takes our options off the table; it means that one day what I asked in the first question will have to be answered. I promise that the right will NOT like it.