Secession from Obama’s America

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Contumacious, Nov 21, 2009.

  1. Contumacious
    Offline

    Contumacious Radical Freedom

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2009
    Messages:
    17,072
    Thanks Received:
    1,469
    Trophy Points:
    205
    Location:
    Adjuntas, PR , USA
    Ratings:
    +3,851
    Secession from Obama’s America

    Most of the states that might reasonably consider secession as an option are the ones that ARE NOT like California, New York, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, or New Jersey, etc. where politicians have intentionally created large dependent populations of people and groups with their hands out for “other peoples’ money” (dependent voting blocks tied to money – not principle).

    To have a shot at successfully seceding, it is likely that a state must first have a large majority of its population that is interested in independence, who are self-reliant, who as a group have not been used to taking more than their fair share of federal tax dollars, who are not looking for ways to avoid fair taxes but who don’t want to be carrying the load for the above named states, who have reasonable expectations of government; and most importantly, who care about freedom, equality and the principles of the United States Constitution more than the “Federal Government”. America is its people; it is not the buildings, institutions, and politicians in Washington, D. C.

    .
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 3
  2. kyzr
    Offline

    kyzr Gold Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2009
    Messages:
    3,447
    Thanks Received:
    450
    Trophy Points:
    130
    Ratings:
    +630
    Its getting ugly. The crappy states like CA, NJ, MI, and NY and others going bankrupt will default. The Fed will NOT bail out an irresponsible State. It can't afford to. CA is a perfect example of political correctness run amok. I don't think any States will secede, but they may start a tax revolt if the Feds raise taxes too much. Then the feds have no money to waste.
     
  3. VaYank5150
    Offline

    VaYank5150 Gold Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2009
    Messages:
    11,779
    Thanks Received:
    1,047
    Trophy Points:
    138
    Location:
    Virginia
    Ratings:
    +1,055
    Didn't we already go through this once? How did it work out that time?
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  4. Contumacious
    Offline

    Contumacious Radical Freedom

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2009
    Messages:
    17,072
    Thanks Received:
    1,469
    Trophy Points:
    205
    Location:
    Adjuntas, PR , USA
    Ratings:
    +3,851
    Since 1935 , the amount of parasites has been steadily increasing. You will never be able to beat them at the ballot box.

    .
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  5. Chris
    Offline

    Chris Gold Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2008
    Messages:
    23,154
    Thanks Received:
    1,958
    Trophy Points:
    205
    Location:
    Virginia
    Ratings:
    +2,089
    The blue states pay more taxes to the federal government than they get back.

    The red states take more revenue from the federal government than they pay in.

    So if the red states leave, it helps the blue states.

    See ya!
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  6. NYcarbineer
    Offline

    NYcarbineer Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2009
    Messages:
    95,839
    Thanks Received:
    11,247
    Trophy Points:
    2,060
    Location:
    Finger Lakes, NY
    Ratings:
    +30,147
    Hey genius, here's a list of how much the states each get back for each dollar of federal taxes they pay in:

    The Tax Foundation - Federal Spending Received Per Dollar of Taxes Paid by State, 2005

    So why are all the states you mentioned in the bottom half of that list?

    :lol::lol::lol:
     
  7. KittenKoder
    Offline

    KittenKoder Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2008
    Messages:
    23,281
    Thanks Received:
    1,711
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Nowhere
    Ratings:
    +1,714
    The biggest problem with this thread title ... and why I call bullshit on it ...


    ... by seceding, they are taking the American spirit with them, because our countries here were founded by secession and rebellion, not by conformity and dictatorship.
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 2
  8. goldcatt
    Offline

    goldcatt Catch me if you can! Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2009
    Messages:
    10,330
    Thanks Received:
    2,331
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    CentralPA
    Ratings:
    +2,331
    The whole thread is bullshit. A few nutters talk a big game, but nobody's going to be suicidal enough to secede. :rolleyes:
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 5
  9. chanel
    Offline

    chanel Silver Member

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2009
    Messages:
    12,130
    Thanks Received:
    2,746
    Trophy Points:
    98
    Location:
    People's Republic of NJ
    Ratings:
    +2,749
    I agree, but it's still interesting that people are talking about it.

    NJ just elected a Republican governor. I am not overly confident that he will be able to fix the mess we are in, but am ever so grateful that Corzine got out. We were on a path of destruction that might have beaten CA for first in bankruptcy.
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  10. rightwinger
    Offline

    rightwinger Paid Messageboard Poster Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2009
    Messages:
    120,242
    Thanks Received:
    19,821
    Trophy Points:
    2,190
    Location:
    NJ & MD
    Ratings:
    +45,324
    We are talking NJ here. It is corrupt to the bone. Christie will have the same problem every other governor has had. Namely, getting things through the party bosses. Look at Corzine, he was mega-wealthy, self financed, business savy....he still caved in to the party bosses
     

Share This Page