Search for the Higgs boson narrows

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    Scientists at the Large Hadron Collider say a signal that suggested they might have seen "hints" of the long-sought Higgs boson particle has weakened.

    New results to be presented this week at a conference in India all but eliminate the mid-range where the Higgs - if it exists - might be found.

    Physicists will now search for the boson at lower and higher energy ranges.

    It is much more difficult to detect new particles in these ranges, however.

    Nonetheless, LHC researchers still believe they will either have found the Higgs by the end of next year or confirmed that it does not exist in the form proposed by the current theory of subatomic particles and their interactions, called the Standard Model.

    "These are exciting times for particle physics," said Sergio Bertolucci, the research director at the European Organization for Nuclear Research (Cern), which runs the LHC.

    "Discoveries are almost assured within the next 12 months. If the Higgs exists, the LHC experiments will soon find it. If it does not, its absence will point the way to new physics."

    The Higgs particle was postulated by physicists in 1964 to explain how other sub-atomic particles have mass. It remains the only major particle in the Standard Model yet to be observed, and its discovery or elimination is one of the LHC's chief objectives.

    The collider is a giant accelerator machine housed in a 27km-long (17 miles) circular tunnel under the French-Swiss border.

    BBC News - Higgs boson range narrows at European collider
     
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    Good thing Clinton cancelled the SSC.
     
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    Superconducting Super Collider - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    General heavily criticizing the Super Collider for its high costs and poor management by officials in charge of it.[6][7]






    Congress officially canceled the project October 21, 1993.[8] Many factors contributed to the cancellation: rising cost estimates; poor management by physicists and Department of Energy officials; the end of the need to prove the supremacy of American science with the collapse of the Soviet Union; belief that many smaller scientific experiments of equal merit could be funded for the same cost; Congress's desire to generally reduce spending; the reluctance of Texas Governor Ann Richards;[9] and President Bill Clinton's initial lack of support for a project begun during the administrations of Richards's predecessor, Bill Clements, and Clinton's predecessors, Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush. However, in 1993, Clinton tried to prevent the cancellation by asking Congress to continue "to support this important and challenging effort" through completion because "abandoning the SSC at this point would signal that the United States is compromising its position of leadership in basic science".[10]
     
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    If they don't discover a Higgs, it will be very interesting.
     
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    If it doesn't exist, it's actually a pretty big freakin' deal. It means the current model is wrong and a lot of Physics as we know it is going to get tossed aside for something new. Considering the forum you're posting in, I shouldn't have to explain what a big deal that would end up being. But for the record? It would be huge.
     
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    Search for the Higgs boson narrows

    Those careless particle physicists!

    If I'd lost the Higgs Boson, I'd have found it by now.

    Whenever I'm looking for something, I just backtrack until I figure out where I left it.
     
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    That's what they are doing.

    They are backtracking to the Big Bang.
     
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    Granny says, "If dey don't blow up the world first...
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    Hunters of Higgs boson to make announcement
    Mon, Dec 12, 2011 - EXPLAINING IT ALL? Last week, scientists at Cern hinted they may have seen the elusive particle, sparking excitement over the lab’s pending special seminar
     
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    Strong signs Higgs boson has been found: CERN
    14 Mar.`13 - Physicists who last summer triumphantly announced the discovery of a new particle but held back from saying what it was, declared on Thursday there was now little doubt it was the long-sought Higgs boson.
     
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    Berlinski puts it in perspective:

    1. Surely its discovery meant something? The Standard Model (SM) of particle physics demanded its existence, after all; and the demand was met. If it took forty years and more than $16 billion to discover the thing, physicists could with satisfaction observe that the public got what it paid for, the first step, of course, in demanding that the public pay for more of what it got.


    2. The discovery was announced; the story reported; and then there was silence. Physicists endeavoured, of course, to maintain the impression that they had discovered something of inestimable value. They were game. Writing in The Daily Beast, Sean Carroll predicted that the Higgs Boson would "revolutionize physics," and if this is what physicists always say, then at least they seem never weary of saying it.


    3. …there is always God. The discovery of the Higgs Boson does nothing to confirm his existence, Krauss argued, therefore it must do everything to diminish his relevance. And so it does. The Higgs Boson, he wrote, brings "science closer to dispensing with the need for any supernatural shenanigans all the way back to the beginning of the universe -- and perhaps even before the beginning, if there was a before."


    a. About this declaration, since it countenances a before before a beginning or a beginning before a before, all that one can say is that Krauss has covered his bases. The Ineffable Higgs - Evolution News & Views
     

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