Sean Hannity Is Abandoning Bush

[musicman]

What you say here proves my point, not the contrary.

 

[musicman]

I swear to God, nuc - sometimes, conversing with you is like listening to Yogi Berra.

 

[Nuc]

I swear to God, nuc - sometimes, conversing with you is like listening to Yogi Berra.

I wasn't aware we ever conversed. But OK.........

 

[Hagbard Celine]

I swear to God, nuc - sometimes, conversing with you is like listening to Yogi Berra.

You knew Yogi Berra?!

 

[musicman]

You knew Yogi Berra?!

Good one, Hagbard - except that one needn't necessarily know a person to have heard him speak. You've no doubt listened to Ted Kennedy on many occasions. Doesn't mean y'all are drinking buddies.

Other than that, though - good one!

 

[nosarcasm]

but research actual history 101...it was a taxation issue...exportation of the 'Cotton trade'...maybe hard to digest...but it is a fact...both the North and South had slaves..! I am not for slavery...just actual history...the name of the game is report facts not BS....!

In regards to most articles of the Constitution, the document is a word-for-word duplicate of the United States Constitution. The major differences between them was the Confederacy's greater emphasis on the rights of individual member states, and an explicit support of slavery.


No bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law denying or impairing the right of property in negro slaves shall be passed [by Congress]

Representatives and direct taxes shall be apportioned among the several States, which may be included within this Confederacy, according to their respective numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole number of free persons, including those bound to service for a term of years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three-fifths of all slaves. ,The actual enumeration shall be made within three years after the first meeting of the Congress of the Confederate States, and within every subsequent term of ten years, in such manner as they shall by law direct. The number of Representatives shall not exceed one for every fifty thousand, but each State shall have at least one Representative; and until such enumeration shall be made, the State of South Carolina shall be entitled to choose six; the State of Georgia ten; the State of Alabama nine; the State of Florida two; the State of Mississippi seven; the State of Louisiana six; and the State of Texas six.

http://www.law.ou.edu/hist/csa.constitution.html the whole confederate
constitution.

The Southern elite wanted to keep their lucrative slave business. That
much history can for sure provide.

 

[BaronVonBigmeat]

Question to ask yourself-If the Civil War hadn't been fought, would slavery exist today? (Not likely given the history of democracies.)

Would the South has remain seperate-yeah.

Which was the seminal reason? Not hard to fathom.

Slavery almost certainly wouldn't exist today, because of technology. Besides, there were about 20 countries that peacefully dumped slavery during the 1800s. The Confederacy probably would have done the same, eventually.

Would the south remain separate? Maybe, maybe not. States would have been free to leave the confederacy, and they might have rejoined the Union at some point.

Lincoln's support or lack thereof of high tariffs was never an issue. His being an abolitionist WAS.

From the Confederate constitution:

Section VIII.

The Congress shall have power-

To lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts, and excises for revenue, necessary to pay the debts, provide for the common defense, and carry on the Government of the Confederate States; but no bounties shall be granted from the Treasury; nor shall any duties or taxes on importations from foreign nations be laid to promote or foster any branch of industry; and all duties, imposts, and excises shall be uniform throughout the Confederate States.

Translation: Taxes are a means to pay for government, not a tool for shielding politicially-connected manufacturers from competition. This was one of Lincoln's central beliefs--in Henry Clay's "American System"--protectionist tariffs, huge public works projects, paper (fiat) money, and centralized government.