Russian spy: Boris Johnson warns Kremlin over Salisbury incident

[badger2]

According to Lavrov, London's abandoning of official channels in connection with the poisoning of Skripal and his daughter shows its great conceit. He noted that in accordance with the Chemical Weapons Convention the United Kingdom was obliged to send an official request to the country it had suspicions about. "But no such request was sent,"Lavrov said, adding that, "moreover, the British representative to the OPCW (Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons) started asking our envoy why Russia was trying to refer to the Chemical Weapons Convention, because in his words, it was sufficient that the British foreign secretary had summoned the Russian ambassador and told him everything,"the Russian top diplomat pointed out.

"You know, this kind of conceit shows in almost all the steps London has been taking -- not only in this particular case," Lavrov noted.

 

[badger2]

Meduza (Latvia) Russia's Reasons for Refusing to Respond to Britain's Ultimatum
https://meduza.io/en/short/201803/13/russia-s-reasons-for-refusing-to-respond-to-britain-s-ultimatum

Russia hasn't been allowed to verify poison

Russia has not been provided with any case materials

Russia is innocent

The age of colonialism is long over

 

[evenflow1969]

An informative read you wont see in the Guardian/BBC etc by a former UK ambassador.

Russian to Judgement - Craig Murray

Russia has long noticed that once a Western politician becomes "former", he immediately begins to hate Russia much less and becomes much more objective

So I would recommend that Western readers who seek the truth listen more to those who have already left politics, but still well understand the causes, consequences and logic of actions.

I think china is growing in power to a point that I am not even sure a united Russia and US could put them back in place. I would like to see better cooperation in the future on both our countries part. I just do not know how to make it happen. We certainly have more in common with each other than either does china. You guys are closer to them, may be some moves on Rusias part to contain china would foster better will between our nations. Any suggestions on our part?

 

[August West]

Empty threats. The Brits will do nothing but attend the next party. They have seen this happen again and again and they do the usual, throw out words.

This is why a strong America is needed, these people are not strong. They've become socialist patsies, turning their back on their own citizens and ensuring that in the future Russian spies won;t head to England for safety.

Give me the reigns of the mi6, and I promise you, payback would be drastic and quite public. I'm no war hawk, but I sure as hell believe that you defend your nation and your agents!

Johnson warns Russia over spy collapse

You`ve got internet balls! A lot of people do.

 

[badger2]

Balls of Sputnik Steel, International
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[shockedcanadian]

Empty threats. The Brits will do nothing but attend the next party. They have seen this happen again and again and they do the usual, throw out words.

This is why a strong America is needed, these people are not strong. They've become socialist patsies, turning their back on their own citizens and ensuring that in the future Russian spies won;t head to England for safety.

Give me the reigns of the mi6, and I promise you, payback would be drastic and quite public. I'm no war hawk, but I sure as hell believe that you defend your nation and your agents!

Johnson warns Russia over spy collapse

You`ve got internet balls! A lot of people do.

I won't argue with you there. I don't have the balls to do that to someone, that's why I'm not a spy. Who knows how I would act if someone hurt my wife or someone I love though. You?

Regardless, I think I have some understanding of human nature. I have basic philosophies in life, if you can reason with someone, you do so. Sometimes you corner a person and it ends up making life worse for yourself, so it is all situation dependent. These state on state activities are the most serious of offenses, it is not only already a National Security issue, but, it can breed MORE such attacks in the future, as the UK will appear incompetent.

If you cannot reason with someone they will often take more advantage of you and become bold, reasoning does no good. The message would be sent to not only Putin and the Russian people, but more importantly to those who engage in these acts.

The first step is to try and identify who conducted the attack. Since they are on video and such an order would only go to a fairly small circle who are carrying a liquid that literally something that goes for 10's of millions of dollars, it shouldn't be that difficult to I.D the two culprits. I would suggest the responses changes if the people attacked survive, but if they should perish...

Reply in kind, and send a message. "If you take an order to kill anyone on British soil you had better make it the perfect crime or there will be retaliation".

I ask again, how else would you respond? Just as the former KGB know the risks when they defect, those who conduct in brazen murder on British soil must know the risks they take as well. I'm just a keyboard warrior, but I have to think the British don't want this continued reputation as a "soft target" for assassinations of spies. Putin might be angry at the response, but he more than anyone would respect it and certainly understand it. He would probably refer that response rather than sanctions on Russian energy.

You see, like the witch hunt into Trump collusion, Putin is viewed with admiration by his people. All of these strong armed tactics which some in the West might look at as barbaric, actually help him back home. Russians will say, "well, he went after enemies or even those who committed treason. While he is also influencing elections of our enemies".

He probably legitimately wins the next election, and we will ask "why"? He knows his countrymen better than we do.

 

[badger2]

Lavrov is questioning British protocol to even get the proceedings going.

 

[Balancer]

The UK demonstrates another pattern of culture and diplomacy.

'Russia should go away and should shut up' - Defence Secretary hits back at Kremlin

'Russia should go away and should shut up' - Defence Secretary hits back at Kremlin

 

[Balancer]

In Russia, people are offended now. When Powell fantasized about the chemical weapons in Iraq, he even shook the test-tube from the rostrum. But in the case of the poisoning of Skrypal, even a test tube was not needed, only verbal accusations were made. Is Russia much less respected than Iraq? Putin is less authoritative ruler than Saddam Hussein? We are offended!

 

[badger2]

Heresay is that Russia has received no evidence, no poison samples and that Mirzayanov has likely already given the formula for novichok to the U.S. since his stiont at Rutgers. Even without Mirzayanov, there are only just so many moves on the chemical synthesis chessboard, and the U.S. as well as Britain has long known how to manufacture it. We smell weasels at Porton Down, where the antidote is kept.

 

[badger2]

Moscow Times United Kingdom, U.S., France, Germany Condemn Chemical Attack on Former Russian Spy
United Kingdom, U.S., France, Germany Condemn Chemical Attack on Former Russian Spy

No evidence presented, no case materials, and novichok has likely already been synthesized in the UK / U.S. Why not include China and North Korea in this gang-up?

 

[badger2]

Rare photo of Mirzyanov, developer of novichok:

15 Mar 2018 Novaya-Gazeta, Nado bylo navsegda lishit rossiyu ee sekreta
«Надо было навсегда лишить Россию ее секрета»

 

[badger2]

The above report verifies our suspicion that atropine is the antidote stored at Porton Down, mentioned previously.

 

[whitehall]

Don't former CIA operatives have to sign a non-disclosure when they leave the job? It seems that former CIA hacks are falling all over themselves to divulge U.S. strategy and criticize the President.

 

[badger2]

The new Trump appointee for the CIA cannot, by an act of will, not know about the Clinton crime family link to the CIA (and [italics]) to British MI5 & MI6, which is Joanne Isham.

 

[badger2]

Mamie Isham Lincoln is one clue. Isham beekeeping links to the Queen of England's UK table is another (New York).

 

[badger2]

Novaya Gazeta report states:

'Po slovam uchenogo, smertel'naia doza iada sostavliaet 0.01 mg na kilogramm vesa i vyzyvaet paralich dykhatel'noi sistemy, zamedliaet serdtsebinenie, privodia k smerti.
According to the scientist, the lethal dose is 0.01 mg/kg weight and causes paralysis of the respiratory system, slows down the heartbeat, leading to death.

Vooruzhenie Sovetskoi armii, GNIOKhT poluchil za nego Lenninskuiu premiiu.
He received the Lenin Prize for arming the secret Soviet army, the GNIOkhT.'

 

[badger2]

Novaya Gazeta continues:

'Tem ne menee, Vil Sultanovich, kak britantsy smogil poniat', chto Skripal' byl otravlen imenno etim veshchestvom?
Nevertheless, Vil Sultanovich, how could the British understand that Skripal was poisoned with this substance?

Dlia tsentifikatsii trebuetsia obrazets samogo veshchestva ili ego spektral'nye kharakeristiki.
To qualify, a sample of the substance itself or its spectral characteristics is required.

Oni mogut byt' v "biblioteke" spetsial'noi vychislitel'noi mashiny, mass-spektrometra vyskogo razresheniia, kotorye provodit analiz i delaet zakliuchenie.
They can be in a "library" of a special machine, a mass-spectrometer of high resolution, which confirms the analysis.

A obrazets mozhnovzat' iz mochi zhertvy, krovy, sposobov mnogo.
A sample you can take from the victim's urine, blood, from many ways.

No anglichane vpolne mogil sintezirovat' formulu sami, v knige ia opublikoval ee polnost'iu.
But the English could quite synthesize the formula themselves; in the book I published it completely.'

 

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Novaya Gazeta continues:

'Tem ne menee, Vil Sultanovich, kak britantsy smogil poniat', chto Skripal' byl otravlen imenno etim veshchestvom?
Nevertheless, Vil Sultanovich, how could the British understand that Skripal was poisoned with this substance?

Dlia tsentifikatsii trebuetsia obrazets samogo veshchestva ili ego spektral'nye kharakeristiki.
To qualify, a sample of the substance itself or its spectral characteristics is required.

Oni mogut byt' v "biblioteke" spetsial'noi vychislitel'noi mashiny, mass-spektrometra vyskogo razresheniia, kotorye provodit analiz i delaet zakliuchenie.
They can be in a "library" of a special machine, a mass-spectrometer of high resolution, which confirms the analysis.

A obrazets mozhnovzat' iz mochi zhertvy, krovy, sposobov mnogo.
A sample you can take from the victim's urine, blood, from many ways.

No anglichane vpolne mogil sintezirovat' formulu sami, v knige ia opublikoval ee polnost'iu.
But the English could quite synthesize the formula themselves; in the book I published it completely.'

I take it that everyone else has noticed that user Bager2 is a Russian/FSB troll.

 

[8236]

Putin - he's so stupid. So stupid that he tries to make a special attempt to poison the former spy immediately before the presidential elections in Russia. Probably, he likes when his rating falls two weeks before the election. Yes, even on such a small issue, as for a long time no one was an interesting defector.

And today's drop in the transport plane An-22 in Syria with 32 dead. The voices are already sounding massively, that in this way Russia is masking losses of a private military company, Wagner. And also right before the election ... I wonder, for the remaining time before the election, Putin still a lot of the same kind of right actions will be committed? What's in the queue? Another chemical attack of Assad? Russian bombing of democratic hospitals? The murder of informant WADA Rodchenkov?

...

I wonder how the western inhabitants can believe in all this nonsense.

I take it everyone has noticed user Balancer is a Russian/FSB troll.

(Btw Balancer, you need to seriously improve your English if you don't want to stand out like a sore thumb)