Russian provocation, lets see what Obama does if Russia moves

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Per BBC World News article dated March 3, 2014

BBC News - Ukraine: The military balance of power

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The US will never risk a war with Russia... All of this is only politics. It's sad but nobody can stop Putin.
 
The US will never risk a war with Russia... All of this is only politics. It's sad but nobody can stop Putin.
The same has been said of many dictators and strong-men who seemed to hold all the cards in a bully-boy confrontation, but the truth is, such folk can, indeed, be stopped.

Back in the day when Britain and France still had the backbone and muscle to enforce their will, they kicked the Russians' asses in the Crimea, in the Russians' own back yard.

But after having bled themselves white in two world wars and bankrupted themselves and being obliged to let go of their empires, they are mere shadows of their former selves and unable and unwilling to protect their own backyards like this again.

Ditto for the Germans, even in collaboration with Britain and France; they just haven't got the nerve for that kind of opposition any longer.

Which means we aren't going to rachet-up the military pressure on our own, unless an existing or solid-prospective member of NATO or the EU is attacked, beyond the Ukraine.

Poland is nervous, and getting pissed. Ditto for Turkey, who scrambled a bunch of F-16s earlier today to nudge-back a Russian air recon sortie close to their shores; with the Russians probably looking to gather real-time intelligence on Turkish Black Sea shore activity and the Bosporus and the Dardanelles.

And, even though they're formidable enough even in a weakened condition, let's not forget that they're just now beginning new Naval and Air build-outs and still scraping the rust and barnacles off of many of their assets and that they're still dealing largely with a Conscript Army rather than a Volunteer one. They're tough. They're bad-asses. But they're human, and vulnerable, and not as strong as everyone is worried about.

But, beyond needing a solid casus belli and the right timing and resorting to counter-force only as last resort...

It takes balls to stand up to a strong man.

It's not the military assets that are lacking in this instance.

In this case... in all probability, what's missing here is 'balls'.

There may come a day, in the not-too-distant future, when the Europeans wish they had made a better showing in such matters, in looking back at this particular incident.

But they won't... I really don't think they have it in 'em any longer... they bled themselves white in two world wars within the past century and they've degenerated into a collection of largely ignore-able second- and third-rate powers.
 
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there will be no military invasion by nato, us or anyone. please folks.

the only answer is soft power, the use of financial tools and perhaps energy, but because we have a admin. that is overtly hostile, nonsensical stance vis a vis fossil fuels, the mothers milk of the Russian economy, we are not and will not be in position to exploit that weakness.
 
Yeah the USA needs another war where it has no interest and has not been attacked....makes sense to the senseless and the power elite who love war, because it enriches and empowers them.

The USA like Rome, has become a welfare/warfare state...and like Rome, if it continues down this road, will fail catastrophically.

Who will stop the elites from destroying the nation?
 
Putin is using the threat of nuclear war as a threat and means of blackmail and extortion. He has brainwashed the masses in Russia to support his notion that Russia is under attack and they need a strong and tough leader. The power elite knows better. The educated and the wealthy can see where his ego trip is taking them. They are loosing billions and their lives and the lives of their children are being put in danger.
 
Churlish to even post the question:

"Russian provocation, lets see what Obama does if Russia move"

We all know the answer and it's quite simple.

Obama would pick up his club(s) and rush off to the golf course!


 
Putin is using the threat of nuclear war as a threat and means of blackmail and extortion. He has brainwashed the masses in Russia to support his notion that Russia is under attack and they need a strong and tough leader. The power elite knows better. The educated and the wealthy can see where his ego trip is taking them. They are loosing billions and their lives and the lives of their children are being put in danger.
hysteric, hyperbolic nonsense
 
Here's my opinion.

We have larger problems at home, like the NSA and the NDAA and Obamacare and Gun Grabbing.

Burying our heads in the sand did not work in the 30's and it won't work now. a renewed aggressive Russia is a direct threat to our nation and our stability. If Russia seizes Ukraine and no one acts they will be free to seize other nations that broke away from the old Soviet Union. And THAT will lead to war.


you sound paranoid
 
So you want us to bomb and invade Russia...wow, but you don't want us investing in our own country. weird.

Go bury your head in the sand you are good at it. If the Russians are left to seize any Country they please where exactly do you think it will end?
For the moment, if the rebels get all they want and more, then here are the new borders of Ukraine:
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Putin is using the threat of nuclear war as a threat and means of blackmail and extortion. He has brainwashed the masses in Russia to support his notion that Russia is under attack and they need a strong and tough leader. The power elite knows better. The educated and the wealthy can see where his ego trip is taking them. They are loosing billions and their lives and the lives of their children are being put in danger.
hysteric, hyperbolic nonsense
Maybe, and maybe not.

kyivpost.com/opinion/op-ed/alexei-bayer-putins-nuclear-blackmail.html

independent.ie/life/no-more-illusions-putins-nuclear-option-30999741.html
 
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"Russian provocation, lets see what Obama does if Russia moves"

And what exactly should the president 'do.'

Start World War III with Russia.

This illustrates the comprehensive stupidity of the OP and most others on the partisan right.
 

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