Russian Military is inept

[rightwinger]

In what should have been a cakewalk in the Ukraine has been a disaster as Russian forces are bumbling and stumbling
Poor training, top heavy leadership and lack of logistics planning are killing them.

No, You’re Not Imagining It: Russia’s Army Is Inept — Slate

But superior firepower still gives it an edge in the short run.

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News reports, tweets, videos, and emails from the battlefields show Russia’s armored vehicles abandoned for lack of fuel, its soldiers foraging for food, its transport planes shot out of the sky, its various military elements—tanks, infantry, aircraft—unable to coordinate their aims.

the Russian army isn’t cut out for lightning strikes. Troops are trained in rote set pieces, with no time devoted to improvising if things don’t go as planned. One reason for this is that junior officers are not allowed to take initiative.

 

[Natural Citizen]

 

[JLW]

I don't think Russian soldiers, anyway, want to be killing Ukrainians. But no matter how you slice and dice it, the Russian military performance shows just how fundamentally weak the Russian military is. If we just had a conventional war with the Russians, (no nukes) the NATO alliance would rout the Russian army is about two weeks, if not sooner.

 

[MisterBeale]

In what should have been a cakewalk in the Ukraine has been a disaster as Russian forces are bumbling and stumbling
Poor training, top heavy leadership and lack of logistics planning are killing them.

No, You’re Not Imagining It: Russia’s Army Is Inept — Slate

But superior firepower still gives it an edge in the short run.

apple.news

News reports, tweets, videos, and emails from the battlefields show Russia’s armored vehicles abandoned for lack of fuel, its soldiers foraging for food, its transport planes shot out of the sky, its various military elements—tanks, infantry, aircraft—unable to coordinate their aims.

the Russian army isn’t cut out for lightning strikes. Troops are trained in rote set pieces, with no time devoted to improvising if things don’t go as planned. One reason for this is that junior officers are not allowed to take initiative.

And I am sure that on Russian and Chinese TEE VEE's? During the Vietnamese war. .. . . the propaganda was, the American military is inept.

Did it ever occur to you, that the Russian leadership is purposely fighting the war with limited rules of engagement, and doesn't want to unleash total war?

 

[MisterBeale]

I don't think Russians want to be killing Ukrainians. But no matter how slice and dice it, the Russian miliary performance shows just how fundamentally weak the Russian military is. If we just had a conventional war with the Russian, the NATO alliance would rout the Russian army is about two weeks, if not sooner.

Doubt that.

If they were fighting a war of survival? The rules would be totally different.

 

[JLW]

Doubt that.

If they were fighting a war of survival? The rules would be totally different.

If we attacked Russia that may be the case; however, if Russia attacked NATO, the Russians would be obliterated.

 

[rightwinger]

It seems the Russian soldiers are poorly trained and lack motivation

Even if they eventually take Ukraine in spite of themselves, it is doubtful they will be able to hold it. The citizenry and military in Ukraine are highly motivated and will keep up the fight behind Russian lines

NATO countries will continue to supply them

 

[rightwinger]

Similarly, tanks aren’t supposed to roll through hostile territory all alone. They need to be escorted by infantry troops alongside or by combat planes from above, to avoid getting ambushed. Yet, in this invasion, Russian tanks are rolling all on their own or providing protection for reconnaissance scouts, but getting no protection for themselves. So, as might be expected, lots of Russian tanks are getting ambushed.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I would never put a machine gun under my bed Ukrainian.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It seems the Russian soldiers are poorly trained and lack motivation

That's kinda the commies way of doing business.

 

[MisterBeale]

If we attacked Russia that may be the case; however, if Russia attacked NATO, the Russians would be obliterated.

If Russia attacked NATO?

WE WOULD ALL BE OBLITERATED!

 

[JLW]

If Russia attacked NATO?

WE WOULD ALL BE OBLITERATED!

I was talking in a conventional sense. If nuclear weapons are involved, we are all screwed.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

In what should have been a cakewalk in the Ukraine has been a disaster as Russian forces are bumbling and stumbling
Poor training, top heavy leadership and lack of logistics planning are killing them.

No, You’re Not Imagining It: Russia’s Army Is Inept — Slate

But superior firepower still gives it an edge in the short run.

apple.news

News reports, tweets, videos, and emails from the battlefields show Russia’s armored vehicles abandoned for lack of fuel, its soldiers foraging for food, its transport planes shot out of the sky, its various military elements—tanks, infantry, aircraft—unable to coordinate their aims.

the Russian army isn’t cut out for lightning strikes. Troops are trained in rote set pieces, with no time devoted to improvising if things don’t go as planned. One reason for this is that junior officers are not allowed to take initiative.

Thankfully

Hopefully they don’t resort to nukes

 

[rightwinger]

Thankfully

Hopefully they don’t resort to nukes

I think if Putin started using nukes, we would retaliate

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I think if Putin started using nukes, we would retaliate

If he uses nukes 90% of the human population would be obliterated

 

[JLW]

I think if Putin started using nukes, we would retaliate

We are all screwed it it goes nuclear. There are no winners.

 

[MisterBeale]

I was talking in a conventional sense. If nuclear weapons are involved, we are all screwed.

"Russians would be obliterated."



Why would you even assume either side would stay conventional if they started losing. . . that makes no sense at all.

As soon as one side started losing, or getting. . . "obliterated," they would pull out tactical nukes, chemical & biological, and thermobaric weapons, and once those were pulled out, strategic nukes would not be too far behind. . .

No one is just going to roll over and be defeated.

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

In what should have been a cakewalk in the Ukraine has been a disaster as Russian forces are bumbling and stumbling
Poor training, top heavy leadership and lack of logistics planning are killing them.

No, You’re Not Imagining It: Russia’s Army Is Inept — Slate

But superior firepower still gives it an edge in the short run.

apple.news

News reports, tweets, videos, and emails from the battlefields show Russia’s armored vehicles abandoned for lack of fuel, its soldiers foraging for food, its transport planes shot out of the sky, its various military elements—tanks, infantry, aircraft—unable to coordinate their aims.

the Russian army isn’t cut out for lightning strikes. Troops are trained in rote set pieces, with no time devoted to improvising if things don’t go as planned. One reason for this is that junior officers are not allowed to take initiative.

Good old propaganda...thicker than pig shit.

You see...unlike the US military, Russia doesn't want to go into the country and level all of the infrastructure.

So they don't blow up power plants, they don't blow up bridges....and level cities.

There is a painful point to this...but you keep believing the mainstream shitstream.

 

[MisterBeale]

I would never put a machine gun under my bed Ukrainian.

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[marvin martian]

In what should have been a cakewalk in the Ukraine has been a disaster as Russian forces are bumbling and stumbling
Poor training, top heavy leadership and lack of logistics planning are killing them.

No, You’re Not Imagining It: Russia’s Army Is Inept — Slate

But superior firepower still gives it an edge in the short run.

apple.news

News reports, tweets, videos, and emails from the battlefields show Russia’s armored vehicles abandoned for lack of fuel, its soldiers foraging for food, its transport planes shot out of the sky, its various military elements—tanks, infantry, aircraft—unable to coordinate their aims.

the Russian army isn’t cut out for lightning strikes. Troops are trained in rote set pieces, with no time devoted to improvising if things don’t go as planned. One reason for this is that junior officers are not allowed to take initiative.

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