Ruh roh...gun violence in Australia....but I thought the turn in solved all that...

[2aguy]

Yes....they have a "gun culture" in the criminal underworld in Australia.......and they are actually shooting people....in complete disregard for the turn in that solved all of Australia's gun violence problems....don't they get that?

They are acting like....well.....violent criminals......

Gun found every two days in Melbourne s red zone


Police are discovering guns in cars every two days in Melbourne's north-west, which has been dubbed the "red zone" by officers concerned about a growing gangster culture in the region.

The alarming figure, obtained from The Police Association, follows anecdotal and statistical evidence of a burgeoning gun culture among young men in the city's north-western fringe.

Police working in the large region, which includes Broadmeadows, Sunshine and Werribee, have reported:

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• Firearm-related incidents, such as drive-by shootings, every six days.
• An increasing trend of children as young as 16 carrying guns.
• Regularly finding guns in cars, including sawn-off shotguns and an automatic machine gun, during routine car intercepts.
• Guns stolen from rural homes being used in violent crime in the north-west. Some 530 guns were stolen in rural Victoria in 2013.

It comes as the Crime Statistics Agency released figures on Thursday showing an almost threefold jump in firearm offences in the north-west over the past five years, from 581 in the year to March 2011 to 1332 in the 12 months to April 2015.

A similar trend was reported statewide, with firearm offences rising more than 50 per cent to 13,626.

The figures follow recent high-profile shootings in which two men have been killed - one in Keysborough, the other in Altona Meadows - and significant gun seizures by police. In March, an automatic machine gun was found during a car intercept in Sunbury, and in February, an M16 assault rifle and Thureon machine gun were seized in raids on homes in the city's west.


Whoa...whoa......an automatic machine gun.....really....? But....But......the Turn In...solved all that.....Australia is paradise for gun grabbers.......this can't be true.......

 

[2aguy]

16 year olds carrying guns.....that woman in New Jersey couldn't get a gun to save her life and Australian kids are running around singing Justin Beiber or the Wiggles or something, songs and carrying guns..........but, but.......it's Australia.......

look at this photo....and be impressed by the stats......

Gun crime in Australia is usually confined to biker gangs and the immigrant communities....look at the names of the victims of some of these shootings and they aren't exactly "Australian" names........

 

[TheOldSchool]

What's Australia's murder rate again?

 

[2aguy]

What's Australia's murder rate again?

Sorry.....you can't claim that....you anti gunners claim that when you are a paradise like Australia, a country that has banned guns.....these sorts of crimes not only won't happen...they won't be increasing........you lose.....

Also.....like Europe, Australia is importing immigrants from countries with cultures far more violent than the native Australian culture....considering that gun crimes and shootings are contained in the biker communities and immigrant communities...

and the gun crime is going up...a lot.....

 

[TheOldSchool]

What's Australia's murder rate again?

Sorry.....you can't claim that....you anti gunners claim that when you are a paradise like Australia, a country that has banned guns.....these sorts of crimes not only won't happen...they won't be increasing........you lose.....

Also.....like Europe, Australia is importing immigrants from countries with cultures far more violent than the native Australian culture....considering that gun crimes and shootings are contained in the biker communities and immigrant communities...

and the gun crime is going up...a lot.....

What's the murder rate though?

 

[2aguy]

What is the rate of increase again.......

A similar trend was reported statewide, with firearm offences rising more than 50 per cent to 13,626.

Hmmmm...and in the United States...where more Americans own and carry guns for self defense....

Our gun murder rate is going down, not up, and our gun accident rate is going down, not up......

 

[2aguy]

What's Australia's murder rate again?

Sorry.....you can't claim that....you anti gunners claim that when you are a paradise like Australia, a country that has banned guns.....these sorts of crimes not only won't happen...they won't be increasing........you lose.....

Also.....like Europe, Australia is importing immigrants from countries with cultures far more violent than the native Australian culture....considering that gun crimes and shootings are contained in the biker communities and immigrant communities...

and the gun crime is going up...a lot.....

What's the murder rate though?

Sorry, again....not relevant...you guys made it not relevant by saying strict gun control in Australia would keep these things from happening...they are starting to spike...why....? Because they have imported violent people from 3rd world countries....

Their rate jumped 50%........

 

[2aguy]

Wait....some Australians did not turn in their guns during the Turn In.......say it ain't so......

Experts believe many of the guns in the black market were never handed in when the National Firearms Agreement was established in 1996 following the Port Arthur Massacre.

The gun grabbers here in the states preach to us that just making new laws will stop gun crime....and call us silly when we say....Yeah, but criminals won't obey those laws.........and now Australia proves that most obvious of points....

 

[TheOldSchool]

What's Australia's murder rate again?

Sorry.....you can't claim that....you anti gunners claim that when you are a paradise like Australia, a country that has banned guns.....these sorts of crimes not only won't happen...they won't be increasing........you lose.....

Also.....like Europe, Australia is importing immigrants from countries with cultures far more violent than the native Australian culture....considering that gun crimes and shootings are contained in the biker communities and immigrant communities...

and the gun crime is going up...a lot.....

What's the murder rate though?

Sorry, again....not relevant...you guys made it not relevant by saying strict gun control in Australia would keep these things from happening...they are starting to spike...why....? Because they have imported violent people from 3rd world countries....

Their rate jumped 50%........

So their murder rate is so much better than ours that you feeling mentioning it would hurt your argument?

K

 

[2aguy]

What's Australia's murder rate again?

Sorry.....you can't claim that....you anti gunners claim that when you are a paradise like Australia, a country that has banned guns.....these sorts of crimes not only won't happen...they won't be increasing........you lose.....

Also.....like Europe, Australia is importing immigrants from countries with cultures far more violent than the native Australian culture....considering that gun crimes and shootings are contained in the biker communities and immigrant communities...

and the gun crime is going up...a lot.....

What's the murder rate though?

Sorry, again....not relevant...you guys made it not relevant by saying strict gun control in Australia would keep these things from happening...they are starting to spike...why....? Because they have imported violent people from 3rd world countries....

Their rate jumped 50%........

So their murder rate is so much better than ours that you feeling mentioning it would hurt your argument?

K

No...I have made the point over and over again in all my posts.....the criminals in Australia, this time, and in Europe get guns easily when they want or need them no matter how strict the gun laws.....these cultures in the past have been very passive and their criminals have chosen.....that's right, chosen, not to use guns as often as our criminals.

The main point......when their criminals want guns, they get them easily...in a country that had a mass, forced turn in.....with on going extreme gun control laws.....and new immigrants can easily get guns in this gun control country.....so you lose.....

 

[bucs90]

Give us the truly important facts.....whats the racial component to this!?